NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 18, 2018 17:05:16 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 18, 2018 17:37:28 GMT
These videos are old but I never had any interest in watching them, and I still don’t. Does the first video go with that assumption that BvS was the result of studio meddling even though Snyder more or less had full creative control over it?
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 18, 2018 17:42:28 GMT
These videos are old but I never had any interest in watching them, and I still don’t. Does the first video go with that assumption that BvS was the result of studio meddling even though Snyder more or less had full creative control over it?  |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 18, 2018 17:53:53 GMT
These videos are old but I never had any interest in watching them, and I still don’t. Does the first video go with that assumption that BvS was the result of studio meddling even though Snyder more or less had full creative control over it?  |
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Post by northernlad on Oct 18, 2018 19:24:07 GMT
God you're so boring.
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Post by kleinreturns on Oct 18, 2018 19:40:25 GMT
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 18, 2018 19:46:04 GMT
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 18, 2018 20:41:53 GMT
Those videos are cute, but the DCEU HASN'T failed. At least not yet. There are officially three movies already coming out, at least one of which IS going to be a hit (Wonder Woman 1984), and the other two have great potential.
When they stop making movies then you can say it failed. For example: After Batman and Robin I would agree that there was NO DC (or DCEU) presence. But, since Batman Begins the DC presence has been steady and the DCEU itself is still hanging in there. |
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 18, 2018 20:49:17 GMT
Those videos are cute, but the DCEU HASN'T failed. At least not yet. There are officially three movies already coming out, at least one of which IS going to be a hit (Wonder Woman 1984), and the other two have great potential.
When they stop making movies then you can say it failed. For example: After Batman and Robin I would agree that there was NO DC (or DCEU) presence. But, since Batman Begins the DC presence has been steady and the DCEU itself is still hanging in there. It isn't going to continue without Batman and Superman. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 18, 2018 20:56:52 GMT
Those videos are cute, but the DCEU HASN'T failed. At least not yet. There are officially three movies already coming out, at least one of which IS going to be a hit (Wonder Woman 1984), and the other two have great potential.
When they stop making movies then you can say it failed. For example: After Batman and Robin I would agree that there was NO DC (or DCEU) presence. But, since Batman Begins the DC presence has been steady and the DCEU itself is still hanging in there. It isn't going to continue without Batman and Superman. Batman and Superman were not, nor were ever intended to be, in every DCEU movie. Separate franchises were ALWAYS intended to continue on their own.
Iron Man, Cap and Thor aren't in every MCU movie. And it sounds like Chris Evans said goodbye to the role. Does that mean that MCU is doomed because no Cap?! OH NO!
Plus, who says Batman and Superman wont show up again? Matt Reeves The Batman movie is still a thing, and Superman could just be recast. Its not over... yet.
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 18, 2018 21:09:32 GMT
It isn't going to continue without Batman and Superman. Batman and Superman were not, nor were ever intended to be, in every DCEU movie. Separate franchises were ALWAYS intended to continue on their own.
Iron Man, Cap and Thor aren't in every MCU movie. And it sounds like Chris Evans said goodbye to the role. Does that mean that MCU is doomed because no Cap?! OH NO!
Plus, who says Batman and Superman wont show up again? Matt Reeves The Batman movie is still a thing, and Superman could just be recast. Its not over... yet.
Recasting Batman and Superman is possible but would look ridiculous. 
And if more than one of Evans, Hemsworth and RDJ leave the MCU, I believe it would be in relative trouble. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Oct 18, 2018 21:12:25 GMT
Batman and Superman were not, nor were ever intended to be, in every DCEU movie. Separate franchises were ALWAYS intended to continue on their own.
Iron Man, Cap and Thor aren't in every MCU movie. And it sounds like Chris Evans said goodbye to the role. Does that mean that MCU is doomed because no Cap?! OH NO!
Plus, who says Batman and Superman wont show up again? Matt Reeves The Batman movie is still a thing, and Superman could just be recast. Its not over... yet.
Recasting Batman and Superman is possible but would look ridiculous.
And if more than one of Evans, Hemsworth and RDJ leave the MCU, I believe it would be in relative trouble. As far as the MCU is concerned, even if RDJ, Evans and Hemsworth all leave after phase 3 is done, they would still have Tom Holland, Chadwick Boseman and maybe Brie Larson. |
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NormanClature
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 18, 2018 21:21:42 GMT
Recasting Batman and Superman is possible but would look ridiculous.
And if more than one of Evans, Hemsworth and RDJ leave the MCU, I believe it would be in relative trouble. As far as the MCU is concerned, even if RDJ, Evans and Hemsworth all leave after phase 3 is done, they would still have Tom Holland, Chadwick Boseman and maybe Brie Larson. I like Tom Holland as Spider-Man but he isn't in the same league as Evans, Hemsworth and RDJ. I don't care about BP and I hate Brie Larson so.........
Clearly I don't speak for everyone but I doubt I'm lone either.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Oct 19, 2018 13:56:23 GMT
Batman and Superman were not, nor were ever intended to be, in every DCEU movie. Separate franchises were ALWAYS intended to continue on their own.
Iron Man, Cap and Thor aren't in every MCU movie. And it sounds like Chris Evans said goodbye to the role. Does that mean that MCU is doomed because no Cap?! OH NO!
Plus, who says Batman and Superman wont show up again? Matt Reeves The Batman movie is still a thing, and Superman could just be recast. Its not over... yet.
Recasting Batman and Superman is possible but would look ridiculous.
And if more than one of Evans, Hemsworth and RDJ leave the MCU, I believe it would be in relative trouble. recasting being ridiculous is a matter of opinion. I don't think its the end of the world. Its worked fine for Bond.
And I believe we MAY in fact see Evans, Hemsworth AND RDJ leave, sooner than later. And you know what? I don't think that's what will hurt the MCU. I think they'll move on with the newer characters.
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 19, 2018 14:17:31 GMT
Recasting Batman and Superman is possible but would look ridiculous.
And if more than one of Evans, Hemsworth and RDJ leave the MCU, I believe it would be in relative trouble. recasting being ridiculous is a matter of opinion. I don't think its the end of the world. Its worked fine for Bond.
And I believe we MAY in fact see Evans, Hemsworth AND RDJ leave, sooner than later. And you know what? I don't think that's what will hurt the MCU. I think they'll move on with the newer characters.
The Bond movies aren't really a part of a continuing story. They are one off spy movies with some of the same characters. Changing Cavill and Batfleck now will look weird.
And Hemsworth, RDJ and Evans are irreplaceable. They have nailed those characters so well that the MCU will have to forget about using any of them for a long time to come if and when they actually decide they have had enough. |
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Post by politicidal on Oct 19, 2018 14:43:41 GMT
recasting being ridiculous is a matter of opinion. I don't think its the end of the world. Its worked fine for Bond.
And I believe we MAY in fact see Evans, Hemsworth AND RDJ leave, sooner than later. And you know what? I don't think that's what will hurt the MCU. I think they'll move on with the newer characters.
The Bond movies aren't really a part of a continuing story. They are one off spy movies with some of the same characters. Changing Cavill and Batfleck now will look weird.
And Hemsworth, RDJ and Evans are irreplaceable. They have nailed those characters so well that the MCU will have to forget about using any of them for a long time to come if and when they actually decide they have had enough. The MCU cast Hulk during Phase One and turned out fine. General audiences tend to be more forgiving than try-hard internet trolls anyway. |
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 19, 2018 14:47:48 GMT
The Bond movies aren't really a part of a continuing story. They are one off spy movies with some of the same characters. Changing Cavill and Batfleck now will look weird.
And Hemsworth, RDJ and Evans are irreplaceable. They have nailed those characters so well that the MCU will have to forget about using any of them for a long time to come if and when they actually decide they have had enough. The MCU cast Hulk during Phase One and turned out fine. General audiences tend to be more forgiving than try-hard internet trolls anyway. You guys need to find better examples than the Hulk and Bond. The Hulk was recast after 1 movie that people didn't like.  |
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Post by politicidal on Oct 19, 2018 14:50:40 GMT
The MCU cast Hulk during Phase One and turned out fine. General audiences tend to be more forgiving than try-hard internet trolls anyway. You guys need to find better examples than the Hulk and Bond. The Hulk was recast after 1 movie that people didn't like. At any rate, it's not the end of the world if they recast either Superman or Batman. Go back to Dwayne Johnson threads. |
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Post by NormanClature on Oct 19, 2018 15:56:06 GMT
You guys need to find better examples than the Hulk and Bond. The Hulk was recast after 1 movie that people didn't like. At any rate, it's not the end of the world if they recast either Superman or Batman. Go back to Dwayne Johnson threads. Aside from the obvious continuity issues, general audiences are going to be like...."WTF?  ?!!!??." New actors in the main roles, multiple jokers, multiple Batmen, multiple universes......casual observers are going to say "Fuck that!" |
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?!!!??." New actors in the main roles, multiple jokers, multiple Batmen, multiple universes......casual observers are going to say "Fuck that!"