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Post by Popeye Doyle on Nov 1, 2018 16:38:39 GMT
Both powerful crime bosses but Vito didn't alienate his family in the process while Michael, by the end of Part II, is alone. I think to that scene in Part II when Michael returns home from Cuba. There's nobody to greet him; Only his wife, on the sewing machine, and he doesn't even alert her to his presence.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Nov 1, 2018 16:45:28 GMT
His father didn't succeed either. He spoiled them to the extent that they didn't understand the responsibility of the business which is what ultimately led to their downfall.
Michael, being more military minded, recognized what it would take to run the business but it would require discipline/alienation within the family.
The business cannot help but introduce failure and corruption into the process, it all just depends on what focus is failing.
For the most part Vito chose the "better" path as he got to be around family that loved him during his life despite the side effect of it dooming them as adults.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 1, 2018 17:08:15 GMT
Vito probably let others push on him more. Michael wanted to annihilate everyone in his path. Being the last one standing with power & money, & guy just lowly dies in a old cricked lawn chair all for naught.
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Post by kolchak92 on Nov 1, 2018 17:42:32 GMT
Michael Bluth?
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Nov 1, 2018 18:19:16 GMT
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Post by Ass_E9 on Nov 1, 2018 18:45:45 GMT
He didn't seem to have his father's warmth and ability to make friends, and became even more closed-off once he took over.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Nov 1, 2018 19:39:24 GMT
Both of them failed, each of them in their own way.
Vito was warm, kind, and completed respected. However, it got to the point where he wouldn't adapt to changing times, and his mafia leadership methods were becoming old and outdated. Making Luca Brasi pretend to betray Vito in order to spy on Sollozo was an obvious ploy and Sollozzo and Tattaglia saw right through it. Everything fell apart for Vito after that.
Michael gradually became cold, distant, and ruthless. Just plain evil and not respected at all. It was only fitting that he was shown to be completely lonely in the end of Part II, and then die lonely in Part III. Still, Michael was the better don than Sonny or Fredo could ever be.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Nov 1, 2018 20:27:36 GMT
Michael failed to keep time from marching on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 20:37:39 GMT
Both powerful crime bosses but Vito didn't alienate his family in the process while Michael, by the end of Part II, is alone. Didn't you see Part III? Him and Connie are on GREAT terms, even though killing Fredo would only make their relationship worse than it already was. There's even hope for him and Kay. And rather than a future Michael in the making, his son is a ballerina or something. Gosh, what an underrated sequel and NOT a giant piece of sh*t that just undermines the second film. I'd say one had morals and the other didn't. Vito used his power often to help people out, especially his family. Michael used his power to cement his power, to the point of killing his own brother. |
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Post by OldAussie on Nov 1, 2018 20:39:01 GMT
Great question!
I don't know the answer, but maybe in Vito's time life was less complicated. Michael turned a business from a part of New York into a multi-national corporation.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 1, 2018 20:51:54 GMT
different personalities, backgrounds and senses of duty.
The father came as immigrant and fugitive to America and had to build up a new life and empire from scratch, for him it was an opportunity he originally never had with the mafia-structure in his home country. He did this by making friends and connections and by giving favors. It was a lucky calling, a chance, not a duty.
Micheal was the studied intellectual elitist and soldier, for him is was a reluctant duty to take over the family and to run it like a military organization or corporate entity. He was high-born into the job he didn't want.
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Post by Sulla on Nov 1, 2018 23:16:37 GMT
Michael didn't have a cat.
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