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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 18:37:31 GMT
That would've been something.
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 4, 2018 19:12:14 GMT
I mean, I definitely would watch it if it existed, but I think their personalities would have clashed like crazy (though their politics were pretty close—actually, that might have made them clash even more).
It’s a bit like imagining if Bogie were in a Hitchcock picture. On the other hand, Bogie was in a Wilder (Sabrina, ’54), so what do I know?
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 4, 2018 21:27:28 GMT
Don't know if you mean as costars, director and star or both. Perhaps the closest we'll ever get to it is 1946's The Stranger, in which Welles directed himself and Bogie's old Warner Bros compatriot (and sometime partner in crime) Edward G. Robinson, another screen gangster who made good. And although not a noir thematically, it generates a rich collection of film noir imagery: As evidenced as well by aspects of Citizen Kane and Touch Of Evil, Welles certainly had a flair for the visual style, and The Lady From Shanghai treads much of the traditionally noir thematic ground. It would have, as you say, been something. Given the range of directors and properties with which Bogart worked in his career, and the very satisfying broadening of roles he took on in its final ten years, there's every reason to guess that a Bogart-Welles collaboration could well have been a memorable one, and it's an interesting idea about which to conjecture.
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Post by mattgarth on Nov 4, 2018 21:49:18 GMT
Welles originally wanted Agnes Moorehead to portray Edward G's role of the Nazi hunter in THE STRANGER.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 4, 2018 21:58:26 GMT
Trivia link :The Stranger"Though not as well remembered as some of Orson Welles' more original projects, this was the only film directed by Welles to show a profit in its original release."
Bogart and Welles with a great story and the usual cast of character actors .. yes ! How could it possibly miss ? . @forceghostackbar
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 4, 2018 22:05:34 GMT
Welles originally wanted Agnes Moorehead to portray Edward G's role of the Nazi hunter in THE STRANGER. Now, there's a fascinating piece of info I never heard before! I'll have to don my imagination cap and envision it.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 4, 2018 22:13:25 GMT
Doghouse6
That trivia link has some even worse studio decisions made about The Stranger .. like 'frinstance lopping off and losing acres of film !
now imagining house ^^^^ wearing his imagination cap !
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 4, 2018 22:30:07 GMT
Doghouse6
now imagining house ^^^^ wearing his imagination cap ! It's something along these lines: Now at approximately the same age as Buster was above, I keep leaving it around the house and then forgetting where I put it.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 4, 2018 22:36:03 GMT
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 4, 2018 22:41:58 GMT
Give that BAT a cigar! (Closest I could get to a bat with a cigar.)
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 4, 2018 22:44:43 GMT
Give that BAT a cigar! (Closest I could get to a bat with a cigar.)
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 4, 2018 22:57:54 GMT
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 4, 2018 23:00:09 GMT
(Closest I could get to a bat with a cigar.) Always the problem-solver. As Van Helsing said, I might have known...I might have known.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 4, 2018 23:02:30 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 4, 2018 23:02:51 GMT
Always the problem-solver. As Van Helsing said, I might have known...I might have known. You know too much to live, Doghouse!
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Post by Nalkarj on Nov 4, 2018 23:04:24 GMT
So, irrespective of my clash-of-personalities argument above, what do you think the movie would be about? Would Welles have directed? What year? Other casting? Open to everyone, of course. It’s an interesting counterfactual.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 4, 2018 23:06:26 GMT
They could even wear their NOIR HATS
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 4, 2018 23:13:32 GMT
So, irrespective of my clash-of-personalities argument above, what do you think the movie would be about? Would Welles have directed? What year? Other casting? Open to everyone, of course. It’s an interesting counterfactual. SUGGESTION ONLY
Casting .. For the essential "character actors" how about all of the Welles Mercury group PLUS the Warner Brothers regulars Moorehead, Cotton, Sloane, Collins etc / Lorre, Greenstreet, Cook, Auer, etc. Stars other than Welles and Bogart …. ? Time frame … CLASSIC NOIR time Place - USA city Welles direct and write if possible. Cost no object. Director has final say in the cutting etc.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 4, 2018 23:14:49 GMT
Always the problem-solver. As Van Helsing said, I might have known...I might have known. You know too much to live, Doghouse! An' sumtawymes, Oye 'ave me dats abat yew!
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 4, 2018 23:26:39 GMT
Would they be working together to defeat a common enemy / solve a crime / find a solution to a problem
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would they be adversaries ?
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