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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 8, 2018 9:47:37 GMT
We've all heard the criticism why didn't Nick call Captain Marvel during the previous movies.
The Logistical Answer is Feige and Marvel Studios didn't even know if they would get Carol in the MCU. (One rumor has it that the Feige vs Perlmutter beef got so bad that Feige pushed hard for Captain Marvel to replace Inhuman's Movie once he got the power to do so.)
In story justifications range from the Time it would take for Carol to get to Earth, that Nick felt his Avengers Initiative Could handle it, etc.
One new rumor is in Captain Marvel Nick and Carol deal with the Skrulls. Nick didn't know that Thanos had snapped his finger and killed half the Universe's Population. Nick thought it was the result of the Skrulls. I don't know how people turning to dust would remind him of that maybe that will be in the Captain Marvel movie. As Carol would be the one person he knew with information on Skrulls he called her.
Just a rumor. It seems that Marvel Studios likes to answer these little details, I wonder if they'll explain it. Mayhap they will and Mayhap they won't.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 8, 2018 10:33:39 GMT
All seem like weak reasons. This problem has been building since phase 2 when the same question were asked nearly every solo movie; ''where are the avengers in this''. This was one of the problems highlighted in the ''Why the MCU Feels so Empty'' video that was discussed a while back in that the world building seems too fractured.
But Captain Marvel being absent from world ending scenarios in previous films needs to have solid reasoning. She is being played up as the strongest character to date, as hinted when Fury presses his pager as a sort of last gasp in order to stop Thanos when no other Avenger could. If she is on Earth already, which would seem so as hes using a piece of 90's technology, then they would have to come up with one hell of a justification for not being involved in Infinity War, but also other stories like Ultron and Chitauri invasion. Nick is the spy as established in Avengers. He defitinly would have had some idea of what was going on in IW.
I don't buy that he felt the Avengers could handle it, the potential losses would be too great to take that risk.
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 8, 2018 10:53:31 GMT
All seem like weak reasons. This problem has been building since phase 2 when the same question were asked nearly every solo movie; ''where are the avengers in this''. This was one of the problems highlighted in the ''Why the MCU Feels so Empty'' video that was discussed a while back in that the world building seems too fractured. But Captain Marvel being absent from world ending scenarios in previous films needs to have solid reasoning. She is being played up as the strongest character to date, as hinted when Fury presses his pager as a sort of last gasp in order to stop Thanos when no other Avenger could. If she is on Earth already, which would seem so as hes using a piece of 90's technology, then they would have to come up with one hell of a justification for not being involved in Infinity War, but also other stories like Ultron and Chitauri invasion. Nick is the spy as established in Avengers. He defitinly would have had some idea of what was going on in IW. I don't buy that he felt the Avengers could handle it, the potential losses would be too great to take that risk. We don't know anything about Carol at this point. One of the reasons why Nick wanted to use the Avengers in the first place was to show the rest of the Universe not to mess with the Earth. World Security Council : Was that the point of all this? A statement? Nick Fury : A promise. With the Chitari Invasion I wouldn't put it past Nick to hold back contacts, so a Earth Team could form and be used. Rationalizing, that a few losses now would make us stronger in the future. It has historical precedence. Their is some evidence that Roosevelt had knowledge before Pearl Harbor that it was going to happen, but held back to pull us into the War. We don't know with what baggage help from Captain Marvel comes with. Isn't she associated with the Kree? We know that Fury knows a little about the Kree with the TAHITI project on Agents of Shield. And you can say well Thor isn't a resident of Earth. I would counter that Nick never recruited him. I've seen bitching on both sides about Solo movies vs. Avengers. You get people saying why aren't the Avengers helping out in this Solo Movie. Then when we get other Avengers in someone's solo movie you get "This is supposed to be <Insert MCU Hero's Name> movie. Why did the MCU put other heroes in his movie."
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 8, 2018 11:07:09 GMT
With the Avengers vs Solo movies you also have to look at it from a business side. The Contracts for the Talent has gotten huge. Each contract has a specific amount of films each are in. So Marvel Studios has to balance, would it make sense in this story to have Falcon, Tony, Winter Soldier, etc show up in this movie vs. future plans and movies. If you have Tony show up in this movie then Marvel Studios might come up short in the other future planned movies if RDJ only has 3 pictures left on his contract. If you have 3 movies you really want Tony in then you wouldn't want to have to negotiate an option to the contract and have to give up more money.
There has to be a balance of why other Avengers should be in this movie vs would the cost of putting the Avenger in this movie worth future movie plans. Nobody has ever thought blockbusters are a charity. If the talent takes a pay cut here then it's leverage to give them a pay cut in future projects. With Art House/Independent Movies/Passion Projects yeah people take pay cuts for the movie to get made. You can't have that mindset with dealing with a Large Budgeted Corporate Backed Movie. No one has a problem sticking it to a Big Corporation. They tend to have a problem with sticking it to smaller project with tighter purse strings.
Edit: And yes I would put Deadpool in the Passion Project category. Even though it was Corporate Backed you have to have some nuance thinking here. Ryan was happy just to get it Greenlit just because of the almost Decade push back from Fox to get it made. Ryan took a pay cut to have the writers on set.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 8, 2018 14:07:08 GMT
We don't know anything about Carol at this point. One of the reasons why Nick wanted to use the Avengers in the first place was to show the rest of the Universe not to mess with the Earth. World Security Council : Was that the point of all this? A statement? Nick Fury : A promise. The Avengers was a response team to deal with the short term threat of alien attacl/invasion. Earlier in the film we see that Stark uncovers SHIELDS plans to weaponise the Tesseracts power. I think this was Furys ultimate long term defence from cosmic threats, not the Avengers. Its a big gamble to hold back Captain Marvel during an alien invasion. If Captain Marvel has proven track record of combating alien threats, then Fury should put her in from the beginning. Leaving the Avengers to fight aliens for the first time ever would delay the victory, costing more lives to perish and more destruction to ensue. This was a real life threat and I don't think Fury would hold back on Carol just so he could see how well the Avengers perform. Most of phase 2 is fine with its explanations. Ironman 3 was a domestic threat. Thor 2 was a galatic threat that only Thor could have stopped. Winter Soldier had to be covert because HYDRA was snooping on everyone. [/quote][/quote]
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 8, 2018 14:39:33 GMT
We don't know anything about Carol at this point. One of the reasons why Nick wanted to use the Avengers in the first place was to show the rest of the Universe not to mess with the Earth. World Security Council : Was that the point of all this? A statement? Nick Fury : A promise. The Avengers was a response team to deal with the short term threat of alien attacl/invasion. Earlier in the film we see that Stark uncovers SHIELDS plans to weaponise the Tesseracts power. I think this was Furys ultimate long term defence from cosmic threats, not the Avengers. Its a big gamble to hold back Captain Marvel during an alien invasion. If Captain Marvel has proven track record of combating alien threats, then Fury should put her in from the beginning. Leaving the Avengers to fight aliens for the first time ever would delay the victory, costing more lives to perish and more destruction to ensue. This was a real life threat and I don't think Fury would hold back on Carol just so he could see how well the Avengers perform. Most of phase 2 is fine with its explanations. Ironman 3 was a domestic threat. Thor 2 was a galatic threat that only Thor could have stopped. Winter Soldier had to be covert because HYDRA was snooping on everyone. I don't think you can every really trust Nick completely, but if you can he admitted to the Tesseract Powered Weapons was the long term solution. He said he didn't really trust it though. I think he even says he was laying his bets on The Avengers Initiative. I think Nick is the type of person that would risk some damage to get what he wants. I mean his secrets have secrets. He compartmentalizes the truth. Both are ways of saying he lies for the greater good either out right or by omission. He also has shown that if he thinks he's right he will disobey orders, so he might be the type to hold back some cards to get the defense he wants. Not saying he's right (or that I'm right), but it's within his character. He is flawed like most characters. A draw back/reward with how the business and art of making a huge Cinematic Universe is kind of the problem with Avengers being in or not in Solo movies. As the popularity and money garnered from the Movie the more they have to play the shell game of who can be in what. The Reward of this is the Continuity of the MCU is pretty solid. Don't get me wrong there are some hiccups here and there. As a whole the Continuity is pretty solid and that comes from that shell game and control with multiple picture deals. The draw back is sometimes you are going to get some logic faults of why didn't X show up in Y movie. And the introduction of more and more powerful people and groups in hindsight is going to raise problems. Like yes the Sorcerers that populate our world in secret that protect us from Mystical threats should've helped out in the Battle of New York. I'm pretty sure if Alien's destroy the Sanctums it would be bad too. You will have to cut Marvel Studios (or any Studio for that matter) some slack even with them planning out movies they never know if future characters or plots in hindsight will effect plots. They never know if they'll ever get to the movies to introduce those characters. We take it for granted that the MCU will keep chugging, but if other Cinematic Universes have taught us anything is they can die or change pretty quickly. With Disney's backing it seems impossible, but 3 middling Pictures and a few outright bombs could force Disney to Force Marvel to change things. As Cinematic Universes go they only have a few logic faults like this and continuity problems. I'll take not having help of other Avengers, but to be honest I don't think Phase 3 that bad with crossover/effects. Civil War you had multiple Avengers. Doctor Strange you don't really need the other Avengers as it's Mystical in nature, but you do have the logic fault of where were they in the Battle of NY. GotG 2 don't need Avengers in the plot. I guess you could've had some throw in cameos of Avengers reacting to the Ego's Flower things starting to take root on Earth. Homecoming you get cross over with Ironman. Thor Ragarok you don't need crossover as it's well off world, but you still get some with Hulk. Black Panther was most an in country squabble so no need for Avengers showing up. If Killmonger's ships made it out and started effecting things then yeah you would need them. And you did get one Cameo with White Wolf/Winter Soldier. Antman in the Wasp was small enough where you didn't need Avenger help in story and you do get a little crossover at the end credit scene as IW effected them. IW is a no brainer.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 8, 2018 14:44:10 GMT
The answer is simple: no other Avenger movie had such a huge death toll as IW. In all the other movies, the Avengers were able to fight back enough to keep the death toll minimal. In this movie, the fact that so many people were dying around Fury with no Avenger in sight was proof that the Avengers either couldn't neutralize the threat fully or they were already defeated. Thus why Fury hit his panic button
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Post by charzhino on Nov 8, 2018 16:01:08 GMT
[I don't think you can every really trust Nick completely, but if you can he admitted to the Tesseract Powered Weapons was the long term solution. He said he didn't really trust it though. I think he even says he was laying his bets on The Avengers Initiative. I think Nick is the type of person that would risk some damage to get what he wants. I mean his secrets have secrets. He compartmentalizes the truth. Both are ways of saying he lies for the greater good either out right or by omission. He also has shown that if he thinks he's right he will disobey orders, so he might be the type to hold back some cards to get the defense he wants. Not saying he's right (or that I'm right), but it's within his character. He is flawed like most characters. I'm not so sure about that. Someone like Alexander Pierce would fit the bolded description nicely, but I wouldn't put Fury there too. Nicks pretty straightforward when it comes to prioritising saving lives and will disobey higher orders to do so. In Avengers he ignores the Councils calls for sending the Nuke. In winter Solider there is a story is him in Bogota where he ignores Pierces order to negotiate with terrorists, instead choosing to save the hostages. Also in Winter Solider, he tells Pierce to delay Project Insight, because he still is in 2 minds about its potential. By the end of The Avengers, Fury gives up plans for Phase 2 of converting the cosmic cube into weapons of mass destruction after he sees the damage it did to New York. All these character traits suggest he would not have hesitated in sending Captain Marvel immediately once he knew the Chitauri were coming. He wouldn't have risked the lives of millions on a team he wasn't even sure would co-operate. So in my opinion they need to come up with a very good reason in Captain Marvel to explain this problem. The only real option is to say she was either off world or had her memory wiped on earth.
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 8, 2018 18:35:23 GMT
[I don't think you can every really trust Nick completely, but if you can he admitted to the Tesseract Powered Weapons was the long term solution. He said he didn't really trust it though. I think he even says he was laying his bets on The Avengers Initiative. I think Nick is the type of person that would risk some damage to get what he wants. I mean his secrets have secrets. He compartmentalizes the truth. Both are ways of saying he lies for the greater good either out right or by omission. He also has shown that if he thinks he's right he will disobey orders, so he might be the type to hold back some cards to get the defense he wants. Not saying he's right (or that I'm right), but it's within his character. He is flawed like most characters. I'm not so sure about that. Someone like Alexander Pierce would fit the bolded description nicely, but I wouldn't put Fury there too. Nicks pretty straightforward when it comes to prioritising saving lives and will disobey higher orders to do so. In Avengers he ignores the Councils calls for sending the Nuke. In winter Solider there is a story is him in Bogota where he ignores Pierces order to negotiate with terrorists, instead choosing to save the hostages. Also in Winter Solider, he tells Pierce to delay Project Insight, because he still is in 2 minds about its potential. By the end of The Avengers, Fury gives up plans for Phase 2 of converting the cosmic cube into weapons of mass destruction after he sees the damage it did to New York. All these character traits suggest he would not have hesitated in sending Captain Marvel immediately once he knew the Chitauri were coming. He wouldn't have risked the lives of millions on a team he wasn't even sure would co-operate. So in my opinion they need to come up with a very good reason in Captain Marvel to explain this problem. The only real option is to say she was either off world or had her memory wiped on earth. You might be right on my characterization of Nick being off. I tend to not trust characters or people in real life like Nick. It might make my view of Nick a little jaded and to critical. I don't know why I think that he would trade lives to get the defense he wants. I know he would trade rights. (Insight original use he wanted it for was trading personal liberty for more security) Guess that's why I thought/think he would go further.
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Post by dazz on Nov 9, 2018 11:58:33 GMT
I'm not so sure about that. Someone like Alexander Pierce would fit the bolded description nicely, but I wouldn't put Fury there too. Nicks pretty straightforward when it comes to prioritising saving lives and will disobey higher orders to do so. In Avengers he ignores the Councils calls for sending the Nuke. In winter Solider there is a story is him in Bogota where he ignores Pierces order to negotiate with terrorists, instead choosing to save the hostages. Also in Winter Solider, he tells Pierce to delay Project Insight, because he still is in 2 minds about its potential. By the end of The Avengers, Fury gives up plans for Phase 2 of converting the cosmic cube into weapons of mass destruction after he sees the damage it did to New York. All these character traits suggest he would not have hesitated in sending Captain Marvel immediately once he knew the Chitauri were coming. He wouldn't have risked the lives of millions on a team he wasn't even sure would co-operate. So in my opinion they need to come up with a very good reason in Captain Marvel to explain this problem. The only real option is to say she was either off world or had her memory wiped on earth. You might be right on my characterization of Nick being off. I tend to not trust characters or people in real life like Nick. It might make my view of Nick a little jaded and to critical. I don't know why I think that he would trade lives to get the defense he wants. I know he would trade rights. (Insight original use he wanted it for was trading personal liberty for more security) Guess that's why I thought/think he would go further. Because he would, that's actually a thing with people in his position, you don't get there by being a bleeding heart softy, as the Director of SHIELD Fury would have to knowingly send people to die to complete a mission, in TWS doesn't he hire the pirates as a means of forcing a SHIELD response so Widow can steal the intel he wanted, he doesn't know HYDRA is inside SHIELD he just knows something feels off, so he hires dangerous pirates to hijack a ship with trained SHIELD agents on board, theres an obvious chance on of those agents may try to be a hero and get killed, or the response team may suffer losses, but Fury sends them anyway, the risk vs reward thing came up in thinking about that, and it's no different with what you suggest he may have done during the invasion, on a bigger scale obviously but still the balancing act remains the same does this save more than it sacrifices?
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Post by charzhino on Nov 9, 2018 12:21:34 GMT
and it's no different with what you suggest he may have done during the invasion, on a bigger scale obviously but still the balancing act remains the same does this save more than it sacrifices? No diffrent in sparing 1 or 2 SHIELD agents lives compared to thousands of innocent civilians? Gross over-extrapolation. Firstly he obviously wanted to save lives as a priority because he was adamantly against the Nuke that the World Security Council wanted to launch. He was also against using Phase 2 weapons of mass destruction which were charged by the cosmic cube, that could arguably cause more death and damage. Hes up against an alien army that even Thor doesnt know about; they are thoroughly unprepared. Why does it make sense that he would hold Captain Marvel back? He could have held back Hulk too, who proved to be the game changer. Why didnt he allow Captain Marvel to join the other heros and make her an Avenger? After all he says the idea of the Avengers Initiative was to bring together a group of remarkable people who if they could work together could stop the threats and wars they (humans) never could. Excluding Captain Marvel from the very beginning has little logical sense.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 9, 2018 13:00:42 GMT
Whatever excuse they come up with is likely to be lame. I don't understand why they had to go back in time to introduce the character, anyway. Can't she just be out in space doing her own thing like the Guardians? They should've brought her into the MCU ages ago, forcing her back story into the already complicated MCU timeline was always going to be a mess.
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Post by dazz on Nov 9, 2018 13:16:02 GMT
and it's no different with what you suggest he may have done during the invasion, on a bigger scale obviously but still the balancing act remains the same does this save more than it sacrifices? No diffrent in sparing 1 or 2 SHIELD agents lives compared to thousands of innocent civilians? Gross over-extrapolation. Firstly he obviously wanted to save lives as a priority because he was adamantly against the Nuke that the World Security Council wanted to launch. He was also against using Phase 2 weapons of mass destruction which were charged by the cosmic cube, that could arguably cause more death and damage. Hes up against an alien army that even Thor doesnt know about; they are thoroughly unprepared. Why does it make sense that he would hold Captain Marvel back? He could have held back Hulk too, who proved to be the game changer. Why didnt he allow Captain Marvel to join the other heros and make her an Avenger? After all he says the idea of the Avengers Initiative was to bring together a group of remarkable people who if they could work together could stop the threats and wars they (humans) never could. Excluding Captain Marvel from the very beginning has little logical sense. Because you are being too myopic, Fury didn't know the invasion was going to happen in NY, as Tony states Loki could open the portal at any nuclear plant in the world or some such thing, it's only Loki's ego that has him do so atop Stark Tower as a big haha FU, if he had known the location for the battle had been NY from the get go he may have acted differently because nuking NY not only kills a lot of people it fucks with a lot more things.
Also the attack on NY again they didn't know what Loki's plans were until just before they happened, maybe he didn't have the time to contact Captain Marvel, if A4 has a time jump and Captain Marvel only shows up during the movie that explains why he doesn't call for her because she's too far away, also whose to say he didn't but because it never is needed they just don't show it, he may have paged her during Avengers & AOU and then when The Avengers dealt with the problem soon after he sent another call out telling her it's all good.
Captain Marvel could also just be his only break glass if you really really need it last resort, you know the police don't send out a fully geared up swat team and mobile command centre to deal with a noise complaint, the military don't use nukes if a single squad can deal with a situation, so maybe she's not a preventative asset she's a retaliatory weapon just because of where she is and what she does.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 9, 2018 13:39:52 GMT
This was brought up over at Reddit. Various speculations but one poster brought up the possibility of Nick paging her during Avengers and Avengers 2 and she simply didn't respond to it. Possibly because she left Earth on bad terms.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 9, 2018 13:49:42 GMT
break glass if you really really need it last resort, you know the police don't send out a fully geared up swat team and mobile command centre to deal with a noise complaint, the military don't use nukes if a single squad can deal with a situation, so maybe she's not a preventative asset she's a retaliatory weapon just because of where she is and what she does. [/p][/quote] Yes the police send out SWATs and National Guard only for serious situations and not minor disturbances. I think an alien attack of unknown quantity and power qualifies as a code red problem. Why isnt Hulk held back then as a last resort? That would make more sense since at the time, he was unstable, reckless and unpredictable when he turned into the Hulk. Captain Marvels abilities and personality seem much more controlled. Its more of a risk unleashing Hulk than Carol Danvers. Fury nearly suffered the consequences by bringing Banner onto the helicarrier when Loki unleashed him and nearly killed everyone.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 9, 2018 13:51:52 GMT
This was brought up over at Reddit. Various speculations but one poster brought up the possibility of Nick paging her during Avengers and Avengers 2 and she simply didn't respond to it. Possibly because she left Earth on bad terms. This is what I expect them to come up with. If they do end up going with the, "she was on earth all this time but for whatever reason wasnt called" reason then that would be difficult to believe. In the same way some people are saying the Xmen could have been on earth this whole time but chose not to show themselves. Very weak reason.
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Post by dazz on Nov 9, 2018 15:13:22 GMT
break glass if you really really need it last resort, you know the police don't send out a fully geared up swat team and mobile command centre to deal with a noise complaint, the military don't use nukes if a single squad can deal with a situation, so maybe she's not a preventative asset she's a retaliatory weapon just because of where she is and what she does. With all due respect this just shows you not paying attention, Fury did not send Hulk out into the field, Loki set Hulk off onboard the helicarrier, Hulk then fell to the earth and Bruce on his own made his way to NY, now why he went to NY is questionable, but he may have been like Tony and just figured it all out on his own so whatever, but Bruce arrives under his own volition not under orders of Fury, he doesn't arrive via Shield Quinjet or anything but on a borrowed moped, at which time he shows off how in control he truly is by transforming at will and Hulk being able to follow orders.
Banner is said through the film not to be their to fight but help track the cube due to him being the worlds foremost expert on gamma radiation, now again maybe Fury all along planned to use Hulk, I dunno, but again the myopicness of your thinking comes into play, Carol is the ultra emergency call because A: she's supposedly more powerful than Hulk or Thor, B: she's not as easy to call upon, it could take days, weeks hell even years for her to receive the message and get to earth, where as the Avengers including Banner atleast when not off the grid are relatively easy to find, so it's like saying hey why did you use the baseball bat when you thought someone was breaking in and not the 9mm you keep locked in a gun box inside your safe, easy access in a need for immediate response.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 9, 2018 15:14:14 GMT
The answer is simple: no other Avenger movie had such a huge death toll as IW. In all the other movies, the Avengers were able to fight back enough to keep the death toll minimal. In this movie, the fact that so many people were dying around Fury with no Avenger in sight was proof that the Avengers either couldn't neutralize the threat fully or they were already defeated. Thus why Fury hit his panic button I already gave you guys the most logical answer. No other need to speculate.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 9, 2018 15:34:44 GMT
Loki set Hulk off onboard the helicarrier, Hulk then fell to the earth and Bruce on his own made his way to NY, now why he went to NY is questionable, but he may have been like Tony and just figured it all out on his own so whatever, but Bruce arrives under his own volition not under orders of Fury, he doesn't arrive via Shield Quinjet or anything but on a borrowed moped, at which time he shows off how in control he truly is by transforming at will and Hulk being able to follow orders. Banner is said through the film not to be their to fight but help track the cube due to him being the worlds foremost expert on gamma radiation, now again maybe Fury all along planned to use Hulk, I dunno, but again the myopicness of your thinking comes into play, Carol is the ultra emergency call because A: she's supposedly more powerful than Hulk or Thor, B: she's not as easy to call upon, it could take days, weeks hell even years for her to receive the message and get to earth, where as the Avengers including Banner atleast when not off the grid are relatively easy to find, so it's like saying hey why did you use the baseball bat when you thought someone was breaking in and not the 9mm you keep locked in a gun box inside your safe, easy access in a need for immediate response. Fury for sure is putting on a guise to recruit Banner under the pretence that he's needed for his scientific mind only in finding the cosmic cube. But I think we can all deduce his actual motive and hope is for the Hulk to emerge and help the Avengers. Stark clocks onto this assumption early on in The Avengers as he ribs Banner about it in their tech room onboard the helicarrier. If Carol was not on earth then you're explanation is reasonable. But at the end of Infinity War he is using a pager to send a distress signal, a piece of 90's technology, implying she is still on earth somewhere. We will see if this is the case or not soon enough, but if it is then they need to come up with one hell of a justification.
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Post by charzhino on Nov 9, 2018 15:38:07 GMT
The answer is simple: no other Avenger movie had such a huge death toll as IW. In all the other movies, the Avengers were able to fight back enough to keep the death toll minimal. In this movie, the fact that so many people were dying around Fury with no Avenger in sight was proof that the Avengers either couldn't neutralize the threat fully or they were already defeated. Thus why Fury hit his panic button I already gave you guys the most logical answer. No other need to speculate. Why not integrate Captain Marvel with the Avengers team years ago? A lot more members have joined since the attack on New York since 2012.
Unless she is under the galaxys most wanted and any public appearance of hers would lead to trouble, then the answer isn't so simple. Fury wants to assemble a team that shows other worlds not to mess with Earth, then why not showcase Captain Marvel as the MVP of that team, supposedly more powerful than Hulk and Thor. Would be a great deterrent. I don't see this need for deliberately keeping her secret if she has been on Earth all along.
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