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Post by bud47 on Nov 9, 2018 15:51:54 GMT
Loki set Hulk off onboard the helicarrier, Hulk then fell to the earth and Bruce on his own made his way to NY, now why he went to NY is questionable, but he may have been like Tony and just figured it all out on his own so whatever, but Bruce arrives under his own volition not under orders of Fury, he doesn't arrive via Shield Quinjet or anything but on a borrowed moped, at which time he shows off how in control he truly is by transforming at will and Hulk being able to follow orders. Banner is said through the film not to be their to fight but help track the cube due to him being the worlds foremost expert on gamma radiation, now again maybe Fury all along planned to use Hulk, I dunno, but again the myopicness of your thinking comes into play, Carol is the ultra emergency call because A: she's supposedly more powerful than Hulk or Thor, B: she's not as easy to call upon, it could take days, weeks hell even years for her to receive the message and get to earth, where as the Avengers including Banner atleast when not off the grid are relatively easy to find, so it's like saying hey why did you use the baseball bat when you thought someone was breaking in and not the 9mm you keep locked in a gun box inside your safe, easy access in a need for immediate response. Fury for sure is putting on a guise to recruit Banner under the pretence that he's needed for his scientific mind only in finding the cosmic cube. But I think we can all deduce his actual motive and hope is for the Hulk to emerge and help the Avengers. Stark clocks onto this assumption early on in The Avengers as he ribs Banner about it in their tech room onboard the helicarrier. If Carol was not on earth then you're explanation is reasonable. But at the end of Infinity War he is using a pager to send a distress signal, a piece of 90's technology, implying she is still on earth somewhere. We will see if this is the case or not soon enough, but if it is then they need to come up with one hell of a justification. The pager Fury used is not a regular pager. It's clearly been upgraded with alien or at least modified tech. She is most likely not on Earth at that point. |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 9, 2018 17:10:46 GMT
I already gave you guys the most logical answer. No other need to speculate. Why not integrate Captain Marvel with the Avengers team years ago? A lot more members have joined since the attack on New York since 2012.
Unless she is under the galaxys most wanted and any public appearance of hers would lead to trouble, then the answer isn't so simple. Fury wants to assemble a team that shows other worlds not to mess with Earth, then why not showcase Captain Marvel as the MVP of that team, supposedly more powerful than Hulk and Thor. Would be a great deterrent. I don't see this need for deliberately keeping her secret if she has been on Earth all along. Pretty sure Captain Marvel is not on Earth anymore, as that's what her movie summaries and trailer implies. And if you noticed, all the Avengers team members were Earth-based. Even Thor only ended up joining the Avengers when he chased his brother to Earth, it's not like Fury specifically sent him a text message in Asgard inviting him over. There's also the fact that Nick Fury was actually not in the habit of inviting new team members after he started the original team. And of the original team, he only invited Captain America, Ironman, Black Widow and Hawkeye. Thor and Hulk (the 2 most powerful) only joined out of circumstance. Fury had very little to do with the rest of the Avengers line up. So considering all of that, why would he make an exception and invite Captain Marvel? |
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Post by dazz on Nov 9, 2018 17:50:04 GMT
Loki set Hulk off onboard the helicarrier, Hulk then fell to the earth and Bruce on his own made his way to NY, now why he went to NY is questionable, but he may have been like Tony and just figured it all out on his own so whatever, but Bruce arrives under his own volition not under orders of Fury, he doesn't arrive via Shield Quinjet or anything but on a borrowed moped, at which time he shows off how in control he truly is by transforming at will and Hulk being able to follow orders. Banner is said through the film not to be their to fight but help track the cube due to him being the worlds foremost expert on gamma radiation, now again maybe Fury all along planned to use Hulk, I dunno, but again the myopicness of your thinking comes into play, Carol is the ultra emergency call because A: she's supposedly more powerful than Hulk or Thor, B: she's not as easy to call upon, it could take days, weeks hell even years for her to receive the message and get to earth, where as the Avengers including Banner atleast when not off the grid are relatively easy to find, so it's like saying hey why did you use the baseball bat when you thought someone was breaking in and not the 9mm you keep locked in a gun box inside your safe, easy access in a need for immediate response. Fury for sure is putting on a guise to recruit Banner under the pretence that he's needed for his scientific mind only in finding the cosmic cube. But I think we can all deduce his actual motive and hope is for the Hulk to emerge and help the Avengers. Stark clocks onto this assumption early on in The Avengers as he ribs Banner about it in their tech room onboard the helicarrier. If Carol was not on earth then you're explanation is reasonable. But at the end of Infinity War he is using a pager to send a distress signal, a piece of 90's technology, implying she is still on earth somewhere. We will see if this is the case or not soon enough, but if it is then they need to come up with one hell of a justification. See I didn't buy Fury only invited Banner to track the cube, what with their prison cell on the carrier I assumed Fury invited him to also evaluate and possibly lock down Banner, not so much add him to the team.
I am starting to think you may not have watched these films because that pager isn't normal it's got bits on it and is old as hell imply it's then current tech upgraded with advanced tech to create a unique for the time and the planet means of communicating with Carol when she leaves the planet.
Also a pager is typically a receiver not a full communication device like say a phone, which everyone has a personal one now so why would Fury need to use the pager to communicate with an earth bound Captain Marvel? even if the only contact number he had was her own pager he could put the number into his phone, why have such a needless means of talking to her like he does if she's not out in space?
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 9, 2018 19:01:58 GMT
Loki set Hulk off onboard the helicarrier, Hulk then fell to the earth and Bruce on his own made his way to NY, now why he went to NY is questionable, but he may have been like Tony and just figured it all out on his own so whatever, but Bruce arrives under his own volition not under orders of Fury, he doesn't arrive via Shield Quinjet or anything but on a borrowed moped, at which time he shows off how in control he truly is by transforming at will and Hulk being able to follow orders. Banner is said through the film not to be their to fight but help track the cube due to him being the worlds foremost expert on gamma radiation, now again maybe Fury all along planned to use Hulk, I dunno, but again the myopicness of your thinking comes into play, Carol is the ultra emergency call because A: she's supposedly more powerful than Hulk or Thor, B: she's not as easy to call upon, it could take days, weeks hell even years for her to receive the message and get to earth, where as the Avengers including Banner atleast when not off the grid are relatively easy to find, so it's like saying hey why did you use the baseball bat when you thought someone was breaking in and not the 9mm you keep locked in a gun box inside your safe, easy access in a need for immediate response. Fury for sure is putting on a guise to recruit Banner under the pretence that he's needed for his scientific mind only in finding the cosmic cube. But I think we can all deduce his actual motive and hope is for the Hulk to emerge and help the Avengers. Stark clocks onto this assumption early on in The Avengers as he ribs Banner about it in their tech room onboard the helicarrier. If Carol was not on earth then you're explanation is reasonable. But at the end of Infinity War he is using a pager to send a distress signal, a piece of 90's technology, implying she is still on earth somewhere. We will see if this is the case or not soon enough, but if it is then they need to come up with one hell of a justification. This is the pager in the Captain Marvel Trailer that Nick uses:  This looks like the same pager but highly modified:  By the looks of it seems it's been upgraded and isn't a normal pager anymore. I know it's not safe to assume, but I think the intention is to show that Carol is off world and this brings/signals her back to earth. Edit: I guess you could say that it's highly modified so it's a transmitter. Pagers don't send info they only received. So the modification could be to change that, but that would make no sense because in the 90's we had other tech that could be used as a transmitter it's called a cell phone. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Nov 9, 2018 21:49:45 GMT
What? Comic book logic for a comic book movie??
THE FCUK YOU SAY?!?
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