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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 8, 2018 19:24:24 GMT
Killmonger, who was born and raised in the US and had never been to Wakanda before, shows up in Wakanda for the 1st time and challenges T'Challa for the throne and throws T'Challa over the edge of a waterfall and claims the throne of Wakanda. Despite having never seen Killmonger before, the female warriors of Wakanda instead of challenging Killmonger for the throne behave like brainless idiotic robots and willingly obey the commands of an outsider who had never been in Wakanda before and who probably doesn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda.
MCU fans claim that Killmonger won the throne legally and the female warriors were doing their job to "protect the throne". So my question is What if Doctor Doom decided he wanted to extend his rule beyond Latveria and decided to challenge for the throne of Wakanda and won the challenge? Would those brainless, idiotic female warriors become subservient to Doctor Doom and willingly obey Doctor Doom's commands and protect Doctor Doom even though Doctor Doom wouldn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda?
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 8, 2018 19:34:03 GMT
Killmonger, who was born and raised in the US and had never been to Wakanda before, shows up in Wakanda for the 1st time and challenges T'Challa for the throne and throws T'Challa over the edge of a waterfall and claims the throne of Wakanda. Despite having never seen Killmonger before, the female warriors of Wakanda instead of challenging Killmonger for the throne behave like brainless idiotic robots and willingly obey the commands of an outsider who had never been in Wakanda before and who probably doesn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda. MCU fans claim that Killmonger won the throne legally and the female warriors were doing their job to "protect the throne". So my question is What if Doctor Doom decided he wanted to extend his rule beyond Latveria and decided to challenge for the throne of Wakanda and won the challenge? Would those brainless, idiotic female warriors become subservient to Doctor Doom and willingly obey Doctor Doom's commands and protect Doctor Doom even though Doctor Doom wouldn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda?No, Dr. Doom would never be allowed to rule in Wakanda. Wanna know why? Hint: Go watch the movie, it's explained there. |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 8, 2018 19:53:38 GMT
That's actually an excellent point. It's gonna be pretty hard to refute that one, but I'm sure someone will inevitably try. There is no "try". Dr. Doom would not be recognized as a viable candidate for Wakandan rulership. Again, this is easily explained by the movie. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 8, 2018 20:48:16 GMT
Except Killmonger has Wakanda blood in him seeing him and T'Challa are cousins.
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 8, 2018 20:55:49 GMT
Except Killmonger has Wakanda blood in him seeing him and T'Challa are cousins. Since there was never a DNA test, obviously having Wakandan blood isn't a requirement to challenge for the throne of Wakanda. So Doctor Doom can say he's Wakandan and be able to challenge for the throne of Wakanda. |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 8, 2018 20:56:37 GMT
Except Killmonger has Wakanda blood in him seeing him and T'Challa are cousins. They don't know that since there was never a DNA test. How would you know if you never watched the movie? |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 8, 2018 20:57:52 GMT
Except Killmonger has Wakanda blood in him seeing him and T'Challa are cousins. They don't know that since there was never a DNA test. Except they did know when he revealed who his father was. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 20:59:02 GMT
Killmonger, who was born and raised in the US and had never been to Wakanda before, shows up in Wakanda for the 1st time and challenges T'Challa for the throne and throws T'Challa over the edge of a waterfall and claims the throne of Wakanda. Despite having never seen Killmonger before, the female warriors of Wakanda instead of challenging Killmonger for the throne behave like brainless idiotic robots and willingly obey the commands of an outsider who had never been in Wakanda before and who probably doesn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda. MCU fans claim that Killmonger won the throne legally and the female warriors were doing their job to "protect the throne". So my question is What if Doctor Doom decided he wanted to extend his rule beyond Latveria and decided to challenge for the throne of Wakanda and won the challenge? Would those brainless, idiotic female warriors become subservient to Doctor Doom and willingly obey Doctor Doom's commands and protect Doctor Doom even though Doctor Doom wouldn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda?He did win the throne legally, or at least legal by their standard. He proved it by showing those marks in his mouth that nobody outside Wakanda could have, apparently. He has a noble lineage which entitles him. It's not some far off interpretation, it's the plot of the movie.
I don't know why you're singling out the female warriors either. The only people who stuck with T'Challa were women. The mother, the sister, Lupita Nyong'o. All the others fell into line because they had to. It's their job. They're the king's militia. Any action contrary to the rightful king's wishes is dereliction of duty. Is it fair? No, but them's the consequences. It's not just the female warriors protecting the throne, it's all the warriors. Did you not notice that? That all but literally a few women and a tribe that separates themselves anyways sided with the new king because they had no choice?
You really fell hard for the movie, didn't you? This is just basic plot you're complaining about, the inner politics of a country that doesn't exist.
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Post by sostie on Nov 8, 2018 21:02:30 GMT
What if Doctor Doom decided he wanted to extend his rule beyond Latveria and decided to challenge for the throne of Wakanda and won the challenge? Would those brainless, idiotic female warriors become subservient to Doctor Doom and willingly obey Doctor Doom's commands and protect Doctor Doom even though Doctor Doom wouldn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda? If you watched the film you might realise how dumb this question is (the rest of us realise when we see who has posted it). You obviously have a lot of time on your hands. Don't worry little fella, Fish Boy is out soon, you can fill in your time starting 10 or so threads on how it will get a Best Picture Oscar Nomination. |
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Post by bud47 on Nov 8, 2018 21:56:16 GMT
This is ridiculous. This is all explained in the movie. Do you just really need attention?
Killmonger proved his royal lineage, which was corroborated by Zuri. He had his father's necklace and the glowing blue Wakandan symbols in his inner lip. His father was brother to the previous king.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 8, 2018 23:22:42 GMT
This is ridiculous. This is all explained in the movie. Do you just really need attention? Killmonger proved his royal lineage, which was corroborated by Zuri. He had his father's necklace and the glowing blue Wakandan symbols in his inner lip. His father was brother to the previous king. DC-Fan might be cracking, he's better than this.  |
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Post by hobowar on Nov 8, 2018 23:30:47 GMT
Does Doctor Doom have a claim to the throne in Wakonda?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 8, 2018 23:44:34 GMT
Except Killmonger has Wakanda blood in him seeing him and T'Challa are cousins. Since there was never a DNA test, obviously having Wakandan blood isn't a requirement to challenge for the throne of Wakanda. So Doctor Doom can say he's Wakandan and be able to challenge for the throne of Wakanda. Dude its all in the movie. Killmonger showed them the proof that he was of Wakandan blood and the son of Prince N'Jobu and both W'Kabi and Zuri supported his claims. |
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Post by politicidal on Nov 8, 2018 23:45:30 GMT
Does Doctor Doom have a claim to the throne in Wakonda? Oh that'd be amazing onscreen. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 9, 2018 0:17:23 GMT
Killmonger proved his royal lineage, which was corroborated by Zuri. He had his father's necklace and the glowing blue Wakandan symbols in his inner lip. His father was brother to the previous king. 1st, anybody could've stolen the necklace. And anybody could've gotten those glowing blue symbols surgically implanted in their inner lip. Heck on Star Trek TOS and Star Trek Discovery, Klingons were surgically altered to look like humans. But what couldn't be altered was their DNA. And Killmonger never had a DNA test to prove he was who he claimed to be. 2nd, what was M'Baku's royal lineage? Was M'Baku related to T'Chaka or T'Challa's family? Since M'Baku got to challenge for the throne and Killmonger got to challenge for the throne without any DNA test, obviously there's no requirement to be royal lineage or even Wakandan. So Doctor Doom can challenge for the throne of Wakanda. My question is If Doctor Doom decided he wanted to extend his rule beyond Latveria and decided to challenge for the throne of Wakanda and won the challenge, would those brainless, idiotic female warriors become subservient to Doctor Doom and willingly obey Doctor Doom's commands and protect Doctor Doom even though Doctor Doom wouldn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 9, 2018 0:20:12 GMT
Does Doctor Doom have a claim to the throne in Wakonda? If he wins the mortal combat, then Yes. Because according to the rules of succession, whoever wins the mortal combat has the legal claim to the throne of Wakanda. By the way, did M'Baku have a claim to the throne of Wakanda? Was M'Baku related to T'Chaka or T'Challa's family? Apparently, anyone can challenge for the throne of Wakanda. M'Baku did it. So Doctor Doom can do it too. My question is If Doctor Doom decided he wanted to extend his rule beyond Latveria and decided to challenge for the throne of Wakanda and won the challenge, would those brainless, idiotic female warriors become subservient to Doctor Doom and willingly obey Doctor Doom's commands and protect Doctor Doom even though Doctor Doom wouldn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda? |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 9, 2018 0:20:48 GMT
Killmonger proved his royal lineage, which was corroborated by Zuri. He had his father's necklace and the glowing blue Wakandan symbols in his inner lip. His father was brother to the previous king. 1st, anybody could've stolen the necklace. And anybody could've gotten those glowing blue symbols surgically implanted in their inner lip. Heck on Star Trek TOS and Star Trek Discovery, Klingons were surgically altered to look like humans. But what couldn't be altered was their DNA. And Killmonger never had a DNA test to prove he was who he claimed to be. 2nd, what was M'Baku's royal lineage? Was M'Baku related to T'Chaka or T'Challa's family? Since M'Baku got to challenge for the throne and Killmonger got to challenge for the throne without any DNA test, obviously there's no requirement to be royal lineage or even Wakandan. So Doctor Doom can challenge for the throne of Wakanda. My question is If Doctor Doom decided he wanted to extend his rule beyond Latveria and decided to challenge for the throne of Wakanda and won the challenge, would those brainless, idiotic female warriors become subservient to Doctor Doom and willingly obey Doctor Doom's commands and protect Doctor Doom even though Doctor Doom wouldn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda?Sigh. Once again you prove that you haven't actually watched the movie. Why do you insist on being a jerk? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 9, 2018 0:25:22 GMT
Since there was never a DNA test, obviously having Wakandan blood isn't a requirement to challenge for the throne of Wakanda. So Doctor Doom can say he's Wakandan and be able to challenge for the throne of Wakanda. Dude its all in the movie. Killmonger showed them the proof that he was of Wakandan blood 1st, "Wakandan blood"? What the fuck is "Wakandan blood"? Do Wakandans have a different blood type than A, B, AB, or O that no other humans have? There is no such thing as "Wakandan blood". There's human blood, Kryptonian blood, Thanagarian blood, but there's no such thing as "Wakandan blood". 2nd, the only way for Killmonger to prove that he's Wakandan is a DNA test proving that he's a male relative of T'Challa. So post the scene where Killmonger had a DNA test or where they mentioned Killmonger being given a DNA test. |
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Post by hobowar on Nov 9, 2018 0:45:13 GMT
Does Doctor Doom have a claim to the throne in Wakonda? If he wins the mortal combat, then Yes. Because according to the rules of succession, whoever wins the mortal combat has the legal claim to the throne of Wakanda. By the way, did M'Baku have a claim to the throne of Wakanda? Was M'Baku related to T'Chaka or T'Challa's family? Apparently, anyone can challenge for the throne of Wakanda. M'Baku did it. So Doctor Doom can do it too. My question is If Doctor Doom decided he wanted to extend his rule beyond Latveria and decided to challenge for the throne of Wakanda and won the challenge, would those brainless, idiotic female warriors become subservient to Doctor Doom and willingly obey Doctor Doom's commands and protect Doctor Doom even though Doctor Doom wouldn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda?M'Baku could challenge T'Challa because he was part of one of the tribes from Wakonda. If you want to get really hypothetical, yes the Dora Milaje would have to serve Doctor Doom if he was on the throne because it's the right thing to do. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 0:49:25 GMT
Killmonger proved his royal lineage, which was corroborated by Zuri. He had his father's necklace and the glowing blue Wakandan symbols in his inner lip. His father was brother to the previous king. 1st, anybody could've stolen the necklace. And anybody could've gotten those glowing blue symbols surgically implanted in their inner lip. Heck on Star Trek TOS and Star Trek Discovery, Klingons were surgically altered to look like humans. But what couldn't be altered was their DNA. And Killmonger never had a DNA test to prove he was who he claimed to be. 2nd, what was M'Baku's royal lineage? Was M'Baku related to T'Chaka or T'Challa's family? Since M'Baku got to challenge for the throne and Killmonger got to challenge for the throne without any DNA test, obviously there's no requirement to be royal lineage or even Wakandan. So Doctor Doom can challenge for the throne of Wakanda. My question is If Doctor Doom decided he wanted to extend his rule beyond Latveria and decided to challenge for the throne of Wakanda and won the challenge, would those brainless, idiotic female warriors become subservient to Doctor Doom and willingly obey Doctor Doom's commands and protect Doctor Doom even though Doctor Doom wouldn't give a shit about the people of Wakanda?I don't even remember the necklace, just the implants in his lip. I think they had some kind of vibranium in them, which makes it an airtight alibi because even if you stole the vibranium you'd have to surgically graft it and that technology is only available in Wakanda.
M'Baku's challenge comes from being the head of his tribe I think. I think all challengers have to be directly related to the previous king or the head of one of their tribes, which is where I think the bloodline began. I.e. M'Baku and all the other leaders of the 5 tribes have a tiny amount of royal blood in them and it keeps getting passed, making their offspring the future leaders of their each tribe and thus future candidates to challenge.
Even so, I still don't understand why you're picking on just the women. Are you also concerned about the treatment of women in say, Saudi Arabia or Iran, or just Wakanda?
If anybody could recreate the science and cheat his way into having fake proof of Wakandan lineage, it might be Doctor Doom. But my guess is nobody will go for it and he'll be treated like an impostor on arrival. He's not giving up Latveria and he can't very well be the sovereign of two countries. Odds are the men and the women of Wakanda will treat him like a hostile invader and do their best to whoop his ass.
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