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Post by DC-Fan on Nov 11, 2018 18:12:19 GMT
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Post by hobowar on Nov 11, 2018 18:42:40 GMT
Was Logan the first fictional character to have amnesia?
Personally, I hate amnesia characters because they usually have little to no personality, but I'm McMarvel will pull it off spectacularly.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 11, 2018 19:05:55 GMT
It's a stupid fucking trope that been done in pretty much every form of entertainment.
I really hated it too, especially when they try to throw in a twist *cough*KOTOR*cough*
It was dumb in X-Men, it was dumb in Bioshock and it will be dumb in Captain Marvel.
Seriously any writer that resorts to that should be bludgeon to death with a spoon.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 11, 2018 19:17:30 GMT
A big spoon. And then use the same spoon to kill whoever first came up with the idea of a "clip show" for an episode of a TV series.
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Post by HorrorMetal on Nov 11, 2018 19:19:54 GMT
*sigh* I wasn't aware that this was actually going to be another amnesia story. That's pretty discerning considering I'm so very tired of that overused trope.
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 12, 2018 2:25:18 GMT
Like other's have said was Logan the first character to get amnesia?
As for Proff X. mentoring Logan, for me that's one of the missed opportunities X-Men movies have. They don't show him mentoring Logan it either happens off screen or between movies. (in the original 3 movies Proff is neutralized through most of them. In the Coma from Cerebro in X1, Captured in X2, Dead in X3. And Proff X was overly harsh through X3)
Think about it in X-men we are told that Proff X. would help him unlock his past and help him. At the end the only thing Proff X. gives him is the location of Alkali Lake. We find out later that Proff knows more but wants Logan to get to it in his own time. Then in X2 picks ups soon after X1 with Wolverine at Alkali Lake. Wolverine learns a little bit in X2, but none from Proff X. Also it doesn't seem like Proff. X helps him deal with the things he learned. We see Wolverine and Cyclopes dealing with the instant grief after Jean dies. We can assume I guess between X2 and X3 there was some kind of mentoring, but not much has changed from Logan as a character from x2 to x3. The only evidence we can come up with is he is over his Grief about Jean. He learns to be more of a team player in X3 and that probably came from Proff X dying, but I wouldn't say Proff X helped him be one. Then Proff X dies and goes into the body of the coma patient.
Edit: We know there was no contact between Proff X. and Logan between X-3 and whenever the Airport Scene happens in The Wolverine. Speaking of Logan reverts back to grief and animalistic between X3 and The Wolverine because of his loss of Jean and Prof X.
Then we have Dofp where Logan tells Young Charles that he was his best student. So we have to assume a lot of the Mentoring and Help came from between movies. It would've been nice to see a little more of that relationship in my opinion.
Edit: We get to see the relationship in Logan, don't get me wrong. One of the main things I liked about Logan, but the roles are slightly reversed throughout. Even though Proff X does teach Logan a lesson in the movie about family and connections. Which seems like the lesson Logan has already learned in between X-3 and end of DOFP. Unless we are saying every lesson/thing was lost with the DOFP reset then He lost those lesson with the events between DOFP and Logan with Prof X killing the X-men.
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Post by havenless on Nov 14, 2018 4:09:40 GMT
I don’t mind it because it’s not as if her original origin was any more revolutionary. They basically admitted they changed it because it was too similar to Green Lantern. But I’ll watch the movie and get back to you on how it ends up playing out.
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