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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 14, 2018 19:52:04 GMT
I have two epic miscasts
John Wayne in The Conqueror. Honestly, someone at RKO said something like this "Let's make a film about Genghis Khan. And I have the perfect lead. John Wayne!" The film was a disaster (literally) but might have worked on a small level with, say Jack Palance. Palance played Attila is a campy but ful Douglas Sirk film, Sigh of the Pagan. Anyone but the Duke.
But worse...
Henry Fonda in the 1956 War and Peace. I know, I know, Henry need the money and Vidor needed a star. But wow. I'm not sure exactly, but Pierre Bezukhov is 15 or 16 when the story begins. He sure as hell wasn't 51. One of the great premises of W&P is how these young characters deal with the events swirling around them. And, face it, Fonda was just too American to play THE character of Russian literature. Audrey Hepburn was in truth too old to play Natasha Rostova, but she was close enough to pull it off. She had the inner spirit of Natasha.
Anyone else? Hoping to avoid actors who just butchered a role (Sofia Coppola in Godfather III) or the "I've read Comic X for years and I didn't imagine Actor Y as Superhero Z". In the Stephen King miniseries The Stand, Jamey Sheridan did a fine job playing the uber-villian Randall Flagg. But that wasn't how I seen Flagg in my umpteen reading on The Stand.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 14, 2018 19:56:28 GMT
As I said before, Anthony Perkins in Green Mansions as the romantic lead and Melina Mercouri in Topkapi.
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Post by bravomailer on Nov 14, 2018 20:45:19 GMT
Robert Redford in Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here. The situations and dialogue suggest a brutal lawman but Redford comes across as his affable self.
Keith Carradine and Harvey Keitel in The Duelists. Neither is capable of playing a European officer in the Napoleonic period.
Not knocking any of the three actors. They simply weren't right for the roles.
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Post by mattgarth on Nov 14, 2018 20:59:09 GMT
THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE (1961) -- Glenn Ford was no Argentine playboy (though he is better in the final third of the film when he gets serious and joins the wartime French Resistance).
THE LOVES OF CARMEN (1948) -- Glenn again, this time as a curly-haired Spaniard losing it all over fiery Rita Hayworth (they doused the flames that ignited the screen two years before in GILDA).
P.S. -- big Ford fan here ... he's usually great (just not in these two turkeys).
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Post by politicidal on Nov 15, 2018 1:30:51 GMT
Pretty much the entire cast of The Last Airbender, Batman&Robin, and Ghostbusters: Answer the Call.
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Post by kijii on Nov 15, 2018 3:00:30 GMT
Good idea for a thread..
One that comes to mind is Ricardo Montalban as Nakamura in Sayonara (1957). I'm not sure who might have played that role but a Mexican playing a Japanese performer just stretches it too far.
It's interesting that both Ricardo Montalban and Anthony Quinn were both Mexicans by birth. It's just that Quinn had a much larger range than Montalban.
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Post by snsurone on Nov 15, 2018 14:19:38 GMT
Leslie Howard in GWTW.
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Post by sostie on Nov 15, 2018 14:23:49 GMT
So there's this Spaniard who originally comes from Ancient Egypt...who should we cast? I know , Sean Connery of course. And I know the perfect guy to play a Scotsman...Christophe Lambert, the French guy. Don't worry about accents...no one will notice.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Nov 15, 2018 15:08:08 GMT
Kevin Costner in Robin Hood: Prince Of ThievesRobin of Locksley Malibu?
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Post by mikef6 on Nov 15, 2018 15:43:42 GMT
Not trying to be snarky or a grammar nazi or anything, buuuuut - is "miscasted" a word? I would have said "I've been miscast."
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Post by snsurone on Nov 15, 2018 15:46:39 GMT
Not trying to be snarky or a grammar nazi or anything, buuuuut - is "miscasted" a word? I would have said "I've been miscast." The title character on LEAVE IT TO BEAVER would have said "misacted". And then his older brother would reply, "Aw, cut it out, Beav!"
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Post by teleadm on Nov 15, 2018 18:35:12 GMT
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 15, 2018 19:19:49 GMT
Not trying to be snarky or a grammar nazi or anything, buuuuut - is "miscasted" a word? I would have said "I've been miscast." Poetic license. Create an unusual title and people will flock to your article/post. "Sticks Nix Hick Pix"
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 15, 2018 19:31:25 GMT
THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE (1961) -- Glenn Ford was no Argentine playboy (though he is better in the final third of the film when he gets serious and joins the wartime French Resistance). THE LOVES OF CARMEN (1948) -- Glenn again, this time as a curly-haired Spaniard losing it all over fiery Rita Hayworth (they doused the flames that ignited the screen two years before in GILDA). P.S. -- big Ford fan here ... he's usually great (just not in these two turkeys). Good one on Ford in Four Horsemen. Rudolph Valentino, he wasn't.
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Post by mattgarth on Nov 15, 2018 20:31:04 GMT
THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE (1961) -- Glenn Ford was no Argentine playboy (though he is better in the final third of the film when he gets serious and joins the wartime French Resistance). THE LOVES OF CARMEN (1948) -- Glenn again, this time as a curly-haired Spaniard losing it all over fiery Rita Hayworth (they doused the flames that ignited the screen two years before in GILDA). P.S. -- big Ford fan here ... he's usually great (just not in these two turkeys). Good one on Ford in Four Horsemen. Rudolph Valentino, he wasn't. Very true, GoodMan -- he sure wasn't. On the other hand, Rudy would not have been as good playing 'Richard Dadier' either. Thanks for creating this interesting thread.
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Post by bravomailer on Nov 15, 2018 22:24:41 GMT
How often have we heard the silly objection that Peter O'Toole was all wrong for Lawrence of Arabia because O'Toole was well over six feet and TE Lawrence was quite diminutive?!
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Nov 15, 2018 22:29:21 GMT
Good one on Ford in Four Horsemen. Rudolph Valentino, he wasn't. Very true, GoodMan -- he sure wasn't. On the other hand, Rudy would not have been as good playing 'Richard Dadier' either. Thanks for creating this interesting thread. Somehow I can't picture Valentino playing Ben Wade in 3:10 to Yuma. Not fair, different roles, different era. My wife watched the original Four Horsemen a while ago. She watched silently (meant to say that) and then exclaimed "What the hell is it about him? He's not good looking, but WOW?" Told her millions of women in the 20's thought the same think. Some of us have it...
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Post by mattgarth on Nov 15, 2018 22:35:36 GMT
But the rest of us don't.
Lost out again on People Mag's 'sexiest man.'
That's the third year in a row that I've finished second.
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Post by bravomailer on Nov 16, 2018 0:49:30 GMT
That's the third year in a row that I've finished second.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Nov 16, 2018 15:35:28 GMT
From the pool of actors of the time .. who would have been better cast as Ashley Wilkes ?
Remembering that it has to be someone it seems un-thinkable for Scarlett to prefer over Rhett Butler.
Personally, I cannot think of anyone better suited for the role than Leslie Howard.
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