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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 19, 2018 1:42:03 GMT
1. DCfan already has a strike against him. 2. I don't know the full context, so President Ackbar™ please provide an example. That way I can do something about this claim 3. I believe Tristan was referring to Formersam and Daisy? Maybe Tristan's Journal can clear things up about that? DC-Fans 1st strike was prior to the linked post. This is strike two. What is the penalty for a strike two? Darth Ackbar needs to provide multiple examples. He didn’t claim that I once used a vulgar insult. According to him, I do it so often that I’m the worst on this board and should be banned. Once he fails to establish this claim (and he will), he deserves a strike, and I deserve an apology. Tristan Journal continues to besmirch MCU fans with the actions of two individuals who are long gone. Plus the litany of other insults. He deserves a strike for intentionally trying to create turmoil after you specifically said that it must end. Okay I need you to highlight what part of DCfan post you think it's worthy of a strike so I can review. As for Tristan I'm awaiting his response.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 1:42:59 GMT
I was banned for making the same suggest last year. You are on dangerous ground here. You were? That's weird. I don't remember ever banning anyone for making a suggestion... Well, to be fair I actually went ahead and created the thread in question as a poorly timed joke... But we both moved on from that incident and can laugh about it now while sipping digital martinis. 🍸 ...Right?
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Post by Admin on Nov 19, 2018 1:44:00 GMT
You were? That's weird. I don't remember ever banning anyone for making a suggestion... Well, to be fair I actually went ahead and created the thread in question as a poorly timed joke... But we both moved on from that incident and can laugh about now while sipping digital martinis. 🍸 ...Right? Right.
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Post by dazz on Nov 19, 2018 2:17:33 GMT
More like 6-7 years, when you think he was in WWF for a year or so as a manager in the 90's so not many bumps or hits, then 3 years in ECW which was only a 3 day a week gig but the overall strain was higher but Raven was smart and that's why he had Stevie to take the hits, devious little bastard, then after 2002 he never worked a full time schedule again he did the indy grind which is again 2-3 days a week normally, one more when he worked TNA, he even said after he left WWE back in 2003 he was making more money initially when he left working less days then when he was with Vince.
But yeah the drug use must of fucked his brain up, he even says he has like a 3 year period where a lot of his shit is missing due to it, especially after his liver packed up on him and he turned real heavy onto pills and shit.
I kinda lost track of him in the late 90's I think, don't remember seeing him or hearing about him. I stopped watching religously in like 2002/3 for about year or two I would catch maybe 1 or 2 shows a month and finally just dwindled out. Same with me but instead of 2002/3 I dwindled after 2014, I did kind of lose interest in 04 when I really got into TNA, ROH & CZW for a bit but then I lost interest in ROH when they got on HD Net, TNA I gave up on after Hogan joined and CZW I was only into for about a year.
Funny how you lost track of Raven during his biggest runs of his career, mid 97- late 99 he was in WCW where he won the US and World Tag Titles feuded with the likes of DDP, Goldberg & The Horsemen to name a few, then he spent another year in ECW where he teamed and feuded with Dreamer over the Tag Titles, then he joined WWF/E in late 2000 & stayed there as a Hardcore division guy or jobber till early 2003 when he joined TNA and spent the next 2 years or so as a upper card guy, and had a hell of a feud with CM Punk in ROH in 03 also.
It was his 03-05 run on the indies that got me into Raven that and his shoot interviews because he's a great interview, but his TNA & ROH runs made me a big fan and I ended up getting a couple of comprehensive compilation tapes of his ECW run which really reinforced my appreciation for the guy.
Did you know he is the one who came up with the Dudley family in ECW, he apparently just bugged Heyman that ECW needed their own version of the Hanson brothers from Slapshot or Slapstick or something and Heymen gave in just to shut him up, the group finally evolved into Bubba, D-Von, Big Dick, Sign Guy & Little Spike who are probably the most well known Dudley clan members.
I recommend checking out his shoots their fucking funny, especially the Straight Shootin ones with Sandman, their such goofy buddies it is hilarious, Raven constantly trying to put himself over and Hak either rolling his eyes or screaming at him for being full of it and almost having an aneurism cracks me up.
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 19, 2018 2:31:41 GMT
I kinda lost track of him in the late 90's I think, don't remember seeing him or hearing about him. I stopped watching religously in like 2002/3 for about year or two I would catch maybe 1 or 2 shows a month and finally just dwindled out. Same with me but instead of 2002/3 I dwindled after 2014, I did kind of lose interest in 04 when I really got into TNA, ROH & CZW for a bit but then I lost interest in ROH when they got on HD Net, TNA I gave up on after Hogan joined and CZW I was only into for about a year.
Funny how you lost track of Raven during his biggest runs of his career, mid 97- late 99 he was in WCW where he won the US and World Tag Titles feuded with the likes of DDP, Goldberg & The Horsemen to name a few, then he spent another year in ECW where he teamed and feuded with Dreamer over the Tag Titles, then he joined WWF/E in late 2000 & stayed there as a Hardcore division guy or jobber till early 2003 when he joined TNA and spent the next 2 years or so as a upper card guy, and had a hell of a feud with CM Punk in ROH in 03 also.
It was his 03-05 run on the indies that got me into Raven that and his shoot interviews because he's a great interview, but his TNA & ROH runs made me a big fan and I ended up getting a couple of comprehensive compilation tapes of his ECW run which really reinforced my appreciation for the guy.
Did you know he is the one who came up with the Dudley family in ECW, he apparently just bugged Heyman that ECW needed their own version of the Hanson brothers from Slapshot or Slapstick or something and Heymen gave in just to shut him up, the group finally evolved into Bubba, D-Von, Big Dick, Sign Guy & Little Spike who are probably the most well known Dudley clan members.
I recommend checking out his shoots their fucking funny, especially the Straight Shootin ones with Sandman, their such goofy buddies it is hilarious, Raven constantly trying to put himself over and Hak either rolling his eyes or screaming at him for being full of it and almost having an aneurism cracks me up.
I have no clue why the hell I said late nineties I watched WWF RAW in my RD's Apartment while taping WCW NItro in my dorm room. Then as soon as Raw was done I would run back to my dorm grab the tape run back and we'd watch Nitro. My RD's vcr was shoddy it would have tracking fuzz when recording. I graduated in 2000. So I lost track of him later. I was till religously probably up to 2003 i would say. then a year or 2 of petering out. So I must of lost track of him after WCW was bought by WWF. I had no clue about the Dudley Boyz. I just assumed it was either their Idea or some collaboration/creative brainstorming with Hayman. Never liked the "Character" Hayman, but my brother put a Pod Cast with him on the last time we drove to Florida. (about year ago). Heyman it was a good conversation.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 19, 2018 2:38:23 GMT
DC-Fans 1st strike was prior to the linked post. This is strike two. What is the penalty for a strike two? Darth Ackbar needs to provide multiple examples. He didn’t claim that I once used a vulgar insult. According to him, I do it so often that I’m the worst on this board and should be banned. Once he fails to establish this claim (and he will), he deserves a strike, and I deserve an apology. Tristan Journal continues to besmirch MCU fans with the actions of two individuals who are long gone. Plus the litany of other insults. He deserves a strike for intentionally trying to create turmoil after you specifically said that it must end. Okay I need you to highlight what part of DCfan post you think it's worthy of a strike so I can review. As for Tristan I'm awaiting his response. Ok ... God damnit. I feel like you and are are going to clash alot. Not at all. I'm just trying to get a clarification because I often get attacked for simply stating facts. For example, many people here attacked me for saying that Stan Lee created Stripperella. But I was just stating a fact. And despite what many people think, I don't hate Stan Lee. He created X-Men and Fantastic Four, 2 of my favorite superhero comics. But he also created crap like the Avengers and Stripperella. When DCF wrote this, you had already established that he wasn’t “just stating a fact”. He was intentionally trying to provoke an angry reaction among Stan Lee fans on the day of his death. He received a strike for that stunt. Did it do any good? Did he see the error of his ways? Obviously not. Here he is playing the victim and denouncing your judgement. If he tried something like that in front of a judge, he’d be slapped with an additional penalty for failing to demonstrate sufficient regret for his actions. Here, you are the judge. The second reason for another strike is his parting dig at MCU fans by equating the Avengers with Stripperella. It is a ludicrous comparison. The only reason he said it was to incite the very thing you are trying to curb. This is how these shit shows begin, every time.
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Post by Power Ranger on Nov 19, 2018 2:50:46 GMT
Okay I need you to highlight what part of DCfan post you think it's worthy of a strike so I can review. As for Tristan I'm awaiting his response. Ok ... Not at all. I'm just trying to get a clarification because I often get attacked for simply stating facts. For example, many people here attacked me for saying that Stan Lee created Stripperella. But I was just stating a fact. And despite what many people think, I don't hate Stan Lee. He created X-Men and Fantastic Four, 2 of my favorite superhero comics. But he also created crap like the Avengers and Stripperella. When DCF wrote this, you had already established that he wasn’t “just stating a fact”. He was intentionally trying to provoke an angry reaction among Stan Lee fans on the day of his death. He received a strike for that stunt. Did it do any good? Did he see the error of his ways? Obviously not. Here he is playing the victim and denouncing your judgement. If he tried something like that in front of a judge, he’d be slapped with an additional penalty for failing to demonstrate sufficient regret for his actions. Here, you are the judge. The second reason for another strike is his parting dig at MCU fans by equating the Avengers with Stripperella. It is a ludicrous comparison. The only reason he said it was to incite the very thing you are trying to curb. This is how these shit shows begin, every time. Yeah man. Warn him for equating the Avengers with Striperella. You do know that on the Religion board one can criticise every religion and rightly so. What makes you think Marvel fandom should be protected, least of all from facts?
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Post by dazz on Nov 19, 2018 2:52:32 GMT
Same with me but instead of 2002/3 I dwindled after 2014, I did kind of lose interest in 04 when I really got into TNA, ROH & CZW for a bit but then I lost interest in ROH when they got on HD Net, TNA I gave up on after Hogan joined and CZW I was only into for about a year.
Funny how you lost track of Raven during his biggest runs of his career, mid 97- late 99 he was in WCW where he won the US and World Tag Titles feuded with the likes of DDP, Goldberg & The Horsemen to name a few, then he spent another year in ECW where he teamed and feuded with Dreamer over the Tag Titles, then he joined WWF/E in late 2000 & stayed there as a Hardcore division guy or jobber till early 2003 when he joined TNA and spent the next 2 years or so as a upper card guy, and had a hell of a feud with CM Punk in ROH in 03 also.
It was his 03-05 run on the indies that got me into Raven that and his shoot interviews because he's a great interview, but his TNA & ROH runs made me a big fan and I ended up getting a couple of comprehensive compilation tapes of his ECW run which really reinforced my appreciation for the guy.
Did you know he is the one who came up with the Dudley family in ECW, he apparently just bugged Heyman that ECW needed their own version of the Hanson brothers from Slapshot or Slapstick or something and Heymen gave in just to shut him up, the group finally evolved into Bubba, D-Von, Big Dick, Sign Guy & Little Spike who are probably the most well known Dudley clan members.
I recommend checking out his shoots their fucking funny, especially the Straight Shootin ones with Sandman, their such goofy buddies it is hilarious, Raven constantly trying to put himself over and Hak either rolling his eyes or screaming at him for being full of it and almost having an aneurism cracks me up.
I have no clue why the hell I said late nineties I watched WWF RAW in my RD's Apartment while taping WCW NItro in my dorm room. Then as soon as Raw was done I would run back to my dorm grab the tape run back and we'd watch Nitro. My RD's vcr was shoddy it would have tracking fuzz when recording. I graduated in 2000. So I lost track of him later. I was till religously probably up to 2003 i would say. then a year or 2 of petering out. So I must of lost track of him after WCW was bought by WWF. I had no clue about the Dudley Boyz. I just assumed it was either their Idea or some collaboration/creative brainstorming with Hayman. Never liked the "Character" Hayman, but my brother put a Pod Cast with him on the last time we drove to Florida. (about year ago). Heyman it was a good conversation. Yeah he came up with it one day whilst getting dressed someone asked him what he was doing and he quoted the film and a lightbulb went off, so he bugged Heyman until he agreed and the group just evolved over time, the only specific Dudley he created though was Sign Guy Dudley as a FU to the OG Sign Guy of ECW who pissed Raven off because Stevie Richards saw him at a gym and said hi to him and OG sign Guy told him to kayfabe, which pissed off Raven so he created sign Guy to fuck with him.
He also came up with other stuff often doing much the same of bugging Heyman until he caved in and let Raven do it, Raven also in 99/00 was one of the ECW bookers with Heyman, Dreamer & Lance Storm, which if Storm & Raven agreed on something Dreamer would dislike Dreamer would pout and read a dirt sheet for the rest of the meeting which just encouraged Raven & Storm to mock him endlessly for being a bitch.
The Raven stories are hilarious, Steve Corino tells a great one about how he finally lost it one night and told/yelled at Raven how he fucking hated him, that Raven cost him his push, made him die his hair because he has a fetish for Michael Hayes, relegated him to being a manager in tights and so on, which only got a "you know that really hurts me that you don't like me" out of Raven, but it cleared the air for the two to be buddies after, which is generally one of the 2 ways people reminisce about Raven, 1: he's an annoying dick but you like him anyway, 2: He's an annoying dick and you hate him, until you like him in spite of himself.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 19, 2018 3:02:09 GMT
Ok ... When DCF wrote this, you had already established that he wasn’t “just stating a fact”. He was intentionally trying to provoke an angry reaction among Stan Lee fans on the day of his death. He received a strike for that stunt. Did it do any good? Did he see the error of his ways? Obviously not. Here he is playing the victim and denouncing your judgement. If he tried something like that in front of a judge, he’d be slapped with an additional penalty for failing to demonstrate sufficient regret for his actions. Here, you are the judge. The second reason for another strike is his parting dig at MCU fans by equating the Avengers with Stripperella. It is a ludicrous comparison. The only reason he said it was to incite the very thing you are trying to curb. This is how these shit shows begin, every time. Yeah man. Warn him for acquainting the Avengers with Striperella. You do know that on the Religion board one can criticise every religion and rightly so. What makes you think Marvel fandom should be protected, least of all from facts? Presumably, these religious criticisms and insults result in a toxic environment with much in-fighting. The mods are trying to end that sort of thing here. Are you going to be part of the solution, or part of the problem?
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Post by Power Ranger on Nov 19, 2018 3:13:25 GMT
Yeah man. Warn him for acquainting the Avengers with Striperella. You do know that on the Religion board one can criticise every religion and rightly so. What makes you think Marvel fandom should be protected, least of all from facts? Presumably, these religious criticisms and insults result in a toxic environment with much in-fighting. The mods are trying to end that sort of thing here. Are you going to be part of the solution, or part of the problem? The in-fighting here seems to come from one faction only. I like the MCU. Part of that is being critical of plot holes etc. You’ve got a multi-billion dollar franchise on your side. No need to be threatened by the opinions of some heretics.
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Post by poelzig on Nov 19, 2018 3:51:31 GMT
12 pages later, Still waiting on this... I was bluffing! Quick! Help me think of some Ackbar jokes!!!!!1 How many ackbars does it take to decapitate a raptor and set its corpse on fire? IT'S A TRAP!!!!!
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Post by cwsims on Nov 19, 2018 3:57:29 GMT
crystal larry
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 19, 2018 6:54:31 GMT
heh heh heh I'm just kidding heh heh heh
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 19, 2018 8:56:06 GMT
Well, so far in this thread alone we’ve got DC-Fan still at it while playing the victim here, Does not this DC-Fan post violate what you are trying to accomplish?Darth Ackbar outright lying about my posting history here, A liar at work
And Tristan’s Journal sweeping generalization of MCU fans as doxxers, defilers of the dead, criminals, and pedophiliac apologists, here. Same ol’ shtick
Not to mention the other ackbar spamming your thread with pages of gibberish in an attempt to trivialize what you are trying to do here. (It might be a good idea to clean out that stuff, particularly if you intend to make this thread a sticky.) In each of these cases, we’ve got the same characters doing the same things that got us here in the first place. If you’re serious about all this, I think you need to start making these people accountable for their behavior. Otherwise, it’s just a joke, and you can keep all the ackbar gibberish in place. 1. DCfan already has a strike against him. 2. I don't know the full context, so President Ackbar™ please provide an example. That way I can do something about this claim 3. I believe Tristan was referring to Formersam and Daisy? Maybe Tristan's Journal can clear things up about that?
yes, anybody who directly or indirectly participates in the doxxing, harassing and defiling of dead relatives (by stealing pictures and misusing them) demonstrates an insane and dangerous degree of criminal energy IMO. And I do not care if it's actually a crime or offence in your jurisdiction; if you think you are entitled to escalate banter about beefcake-in-tights B-movies to such a mobbing level, you are a criminal nutjob. Apart from Formersam and Daisy (whose active participation in on record and full confessions were made) I would include everybody who instigated, encouraged or supported these actions before or after the fact. I saw ample evidence in the fragmented posting history of the Darknet's Troll Observatory and elsewhere (which was hastily deleted after it went public for a few days) and witness statements for that - such as talks about taking revenge, nutjob conspiracy theories and asking who knows a hacker before all that happened. I assume lots of it happened on PM level too. I stress that I have no evidence and do not believe that King Kong Brady had any part in this particular action despite his blatant, continued hostility towards DC-Fan; King Kong is a notorious trouble make and fallacious ignoramus but personally I find him rather amusing than worrying (eg see the link I posted).
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Post by NormanClature on Nov 19, 2018 9:06:38 GMT
yaI Look, this is reallllly simple - create one sticky thread where people can troll and argue away to their hearts' content. EVERYONE will be aware what the thread is all about and therefore cannot bitch and whine if they choose to read/contribute to said thread and people say things they don't like. Then make the rest of the board a troll free zone. Mods can be as strict as they like, transgressors receive one warning and on the 2nd strike they are out. It isn't rocket science! I was banned for making the same suggestion last year. You are on dangerous ground here. o Also, it's a bad idea. LOL If you believe it's a bad idea then I think you should probably say why.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 19, 2018 11:12:39 GMT
1. DCfan already has a strike against him. 2. I don't know the full context, so President Ackbar™ please provide an example. That way I can do something about this claim 3. I believe Tristan was referring to Formersam and Daisy? Maybe Tristan's Journal can clear things up about that?
yes, anybody who directly or indirectly participates in the doxxing, harassing and defiling of dead relatives (by stealing pictures and misusing them) demonstrates an insane and dangerous degree of criminal energy IMO. And I do not care if it's actually a crime or offence in your jurisdiction; if you think you are entitled to escalate banter about beefcake-in-tights B-movies to such a mobbing level, you are a criminal nutjob. Apart from Formersam and Daisy (whose active participation in on record and full confessions were made) I would include everybody who instigated, encouraged or supported these actions before or after the fact. I saw ample evidence in the fragmented posting history of the Darknet's Troll Observatory and elsewhere (which was hastily deleted after it went public for a few days) and witness statements for that - such as talks about taking revenge, nutjob conspiracy theories and asking who knows a hacker before all that happened. I assume lots of it happened on PM level too. I stress that I have no evidence and do not believe that King Kong Brady had any part in this particular action despite his blatant, continued hostility towards DC-Fan; King Kong is a notorious trouble make and fallacious ignoramus but personally I find him rather amusing than worrying (eg see the link I posted). Well, uh ... ok. Here we have TJ admitting that he “includes everybody”. Like DCF, he starts off with the righteous indignation and then segues into the specious justification for his actions. No evidence, no names. Just a blanket accusation directed at MCU fans, whom he has already stated on numerous occasions, he despises. The ol’ guilt by association, used as a bludgeon to continuously stir up shit on this board. Plus, the parting insult directed at me. ... and this post was supposed to be his defense! Like I’ve said, these guys just can’t stop themselves.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 19, 2018 11:37:06 GMT
Okay I need you to highlight what part of DCfan post you think it's worthy of a strike so I can review. As for Tristan I'm awaiting his response. Ok ... Not at all. I'm just trying to get a clarification because I often get attacked for simply stating facts. For example, many people here attacked me for saying that Stan Lee created Stripperella. But I was just stating a fact. And despite what many people think, I don't hate Stan Lee. He created X-Men and Fantastic Four, 2 of my favorite superhero comics. But he also created crap like the Avengers and Stripperella. When DCF wrote this, you had already established that he wasn’t “just stating a fact”. He was intentionally trying to provoke an angry reaction among Stan Lee fans on the day of his death. He received a strike for that stunt. Did it do any good? Did he see the error of his ways? Obviously not. Here he is playing the victim and denouncing your judgement. If he tried something like that in front of a judge, he’d be slapped with an additional penalty for failing to demonstrate sufficient regret for his actions. Here, you are the judge. The second reason for another strike is his parting dig at MCU fans by equating the Avengers with Stripperella. It is a ludicrous comparison. The only reason he said it was to incite the very thing you are trying to curb. This is how these shit shows begin, every time. He can claim it as a fact all he wants, but it doesn't make it so. I'm a MCU fan and I didnt see it as a dig at MCU fans. As stated criticism towards Marvel, DC and X-Men is allowed. I also stated that criticism of those franchises shouldn't be treated as an personal attack.
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Post by damngumby on Nov 19, 2018 12:04:32 GMT
Ok ... When DCF wrote this, you had already established that he wasn’t “just stating a fact”. He was intentionally trying to provoke an angry reaction among Stan Lee fans on the day of his death. He received a strike for that stunt. Did it do any good? Did he see the error of his ways? Obviously not. Here he is playing the victim and denouncing your judgement. If he tried something like that in front of a judge, he’d be slapped with an additional penalty for failing to demonstrate sufficient regret for his actions. Here, you are the judge. The second reason for another strike is his parting dig at MCU fans by equating the Avengers with Stripperella. It is a ludicrous comparison. The only reason he said it was to incite the very thing you are trying to curb. This is how these shit shows begin, every time. He can claim it as a fact all he wants, but it doesn't make it so. I'm a MCU fan and I didnt see it as a dig at MCU fans. As stated criticism towards Marvel, DC and X-Men is allowed. I also stated that criticism of those franchises shouldn't be treated as an personal attack. You’re probably going to need to figure out a way to differentiate the difference between legitimate criticisms and posts designed specifically to irk and belittle a fan base.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 19, 2018 13:05:57 GMT
yes, anybody who directly or indirectly participates in the doxxing, harassing and defiling of dead relatives (by stealing pictures and misusing them) demonstrates an insane and dangerous degree of criminal energy IMO. And I do not care if it's actually a crime or offence in your jurisdiction; if you think you are entitled to escalate banter about beefcake-in-tights B-movies to such a mobbing level, you are a criminal nutjob. Apart from Formersam and Daisy (whose active participation in on record and full confessions were made) I would include everybody who instigated, encouraged or supported these actions before or after the fact. I saw ample evidence in the fragmented posting history of the Darknet's Troll Observatory and elsewhere (which was hastily deleted after it went public for a few days) and witness statements for that - such as talks about taking revenge, nutjob conspiracy theories and asking who knows a hacker before all that happened. I assume lots of it happened on PM level too. I stress that I have no evidence and do not believe that King Kong Brady had any part in this particular action despite his blatant, continued hostility towards DC-Fan; King Kong is a notorious trouble make and fallacious ignoramus but personally I find him rather amusing than worrying (eg see the link I posted). Well, uh ... ok. Here we have TJ admitting that he “includes everybody”. Like DCF, he starts off with the righteous indignation and then segues into the specious justification for his actions. No evidence, no names. Just a blanket accusation directed at MCU fans, whom he has already stated on numerous occasions, he despises. The ol’ guilt by association, used as a bludgeon to continuously stir up shit on this board. Plus, the parting insult directed at me. ... and this post was supposed to be his defense! Like I’ve said, these guys just can’t stop themselves. At the very least it sounds like he is grouping those who had no problem with the doxxing. Which all of them, that I'm aware of at least, are gone from this site. Tristan's Journal is free to make his case on that statement.
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Post by Power Ranger on Nov 19, 2018 13:08:02 GMT
He can claim it as a fact all he wants, but it doesn't make it so. I'm a MCU fan and I didnt see it as a dig at MCU fans. As stated criticism towards Marvel, DC and X-Men is allowed. I also stated that criticism of those franchises shouldn't be treated as an personal attack. You’re probably going to need to figure out a way to differentiate the difference between legitimate criticisms and posts designed specifically to irk and belittle a fan base. It’s the fact that you get irked and feel belittled which may be the problem. You’re asking for protections the religion board and politics board don’t ensure or enforce.
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