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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Dec 3, 2018 23:29:36 GMT
Apparently it's the best Spider-Man movie ever made and some people are considering it the best CBM of the year. I'm super excited to see it.
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Post by scabab on Dec 4, 2018 7:50:42 GMT
no I dont buy that I never will because I see batman and wb. and xmen and fox too. What's not to buy? That's exactly how it happened. Domestically and with inflation you've got... Spider-Man- $635 million Spider-Man 2 - $549 million Spider-Man 3 - $447 million The Amazing Spider-man - $307 million The Amazing Spider-man 2 - $222 million Every successive movie that they were making just did less and less money. They'd lost about two thirds of their audience across those movies. TASM2 barely made a profit, just about. Its no secret people didn't care for that movie, it was arguably even worse than Spider-man 3. Naturally The Amazing Spider-man 3 would have just made even less money still. Sony knew this and they made the smart decision by partnering with Disney. As a result Spider-man Homecoming actually saw an increase in gross for once and people did like it, more so than the last three movies that is undeniable.
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Post by dazz on Dec 4, 2018 10:54:01 GMT
no I dont buy that I never will because I see batman and wb. and xmen and fox too. What's not to buy? That's exactly how it happened. Domestically and with inflation you've got... Spider-Man- $635 million Spider-Man 2 - $549 million Spider-Man 3 - $447 million The Amazing Spider-man - $307 million The Amazing Spider-man 2 - $222 million Every successive movie that they were making just did less and less money. They'd lost about two thirds of their audience across those movies. TASM2 barely made a profit, just about. Its no secret people didn't care for that movie, it was arguably even worse than Spider-man 3. Naturally The Amazing Spider-man 3 would have just made even less money still. Sony knew this and they made the smart decision by partnering with Disney. As a result Spider-man Homecoming actually saw an increase in gross for once and people did like it, more so than the last three movies that is undeniable. I love how some of us still try to talk reason with Summers8 it's hilarious we'd be better off trying to debate philosophy with a bacon sandwich.
Also holy shit I knew they were doing bad but I didn't know they were doing that badly, 2/3's of their domestic audience said fuck off between Spiderman & TASM2 that's pitiful, also funny how even Venom follows this trend, domestically it's the lowest grossing Spidey franchise film ever, just wtf why don't americans like their movies anymore I wonder...
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Post by summers8 on Dec 4, 2018 13:24:43 GMT
no I dont buy that I never will because I see batman and wb. and xmen and fox too. What's not to buy? That's exactly how it happened. Domestically and with inflation you've got... Spider-Man- $635 million Spider-Man 2 - $549 million Spider-Man 3 - $447 million The Amazing Spider-man - $307 million The Amazing Spider-man 2 - $222 million Every successive movie that they were making just did less and less money. They'd lost about two thirds of their audience across those movies. TASM2 barely made a profit, just about. Its no secret people didn't care for that movie, it was arguably even worse than Spider-man 3. Naturally The Amazing Spider-man 3 would have just made even less money still. Sony knew this and they made the smart decision by partnering with Disney. As a result Spider-man Homecoming actually saw an increase in gross for once and people did like it, more so than the last three movies that is undeniable. goodness me. so this is the same as batman track record in films. tim burton's batman = sam raimi spidey Joel Sch Batman - andrew garfield's spidey (and not as problematic) Nolan's Batman = So see Sony could have waited after the amazing spidery movies and rebooted it again for the 3rd time.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 4, 2018 13:42:03 GMT
What's not to buy? That's exactly how it happened. Domestically and with inflation you've got... Spider-Man- $635 million Spider-Man 2 - $549 million Spider-Man 3 - $447 million The Amazing Spider-man - $307 million The Amazing Spider-man 2 - $222 million Every successive movie that they were making just did less and less money. They'd lost about two thirds of their audience across those movies. TASM2 barely made a profit, just about. Its no secret people didn't care for that movie, it was arguably even worse than Spider-man 3. Naturally The Amazing Spider-man 3 would have just made even less money still. Sony knew this and they made the smart decision by partnering with Disney. As a result Spider-man Homecoming actually saw an increase in gross for once and people did like it, more so than the last three movies that is undeniable. goodness me. so this is the same as batman track record in films. tim burton's batman = sam raimi spidey Joel Sch Batman - andrew garfield's spidey (and not as problematic) Nolan's Batman = So see Sony could have waited after the amazing spidery movies and rebooted it again for the 3rd time. Good point. What people overlook is the multitude of options. Life is not a false dilemma.
So, a Nolan-eque TheDarkSpider trilogy instead of Iron Spiderboy...? I'm on board!
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Post by scabab on Dec 4, 2018 14:22:31 GMT
goodness me. so this is the same as batman track record in films Well no because Batman Forever was more successful than Batman Returns. Batman Begins was more successful than Batman and Robin. The Dark Knight was more successful than Batman Begins. Not like Spider-man which just kept making less each time. Sony did reboot the series a third time after The Amazing Spider-man movies. That's exactly what Spider-man Homecoming is and it was successful. Spider-Man Homecoming was mainly made by Colombia Pictures with assistance from Marvel Studios. It's still mainly a Sony movie.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Dec 19, 2018 7:58:58 GMT
What's not to buy? That's exactly how it happened. Domestically and with inflation you've got... Spider-Man- $635 million Spider-Man 2 - $549 million Spider-Man 3 - $447 million The Amazing Spider-man - $307 million The Amazing Spider-man 2 - $222 million Every successive movie that they were making just did less and less money. They'd lost about two thirds of their audience across those movies. TASM2 barely made a profit, just about. Its no secret people didn't care for that movie, it was arguably even worse than Spider-man 3. Naturally The Amazing Spider-man 3 would have just made even less money still. Sony knew this and they made the smart decision by partnering with Disney. As a result Spider-man Homecoming actually saw an increase in gross for once and people did like it, more so than the last three movies that is undeniable. goodness me. so this is the same as batman track record in films. tim burton's batman = sam raimi spidey Joel Sch Batman - andrew garfield's spidey (and not as problematic) Nolan's Batman = So see Sony could have waited after the amazing spidery movies and rebooted it again for the 3rd time. If they ever made a 'Nolan' style Spider-Man trilogy, it'd be time to ignore his teen years. A complete reboot where we just jump into him as adult Peter Parker, having been Spider-Man for like a decade.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 19, 2018 11:49:35 GMT
What's not to buy? That's exactly how it happened. Domestically and with inflation you've got... Spider-Man- $635 million Spider-Man 2 - $549 million Spider-Man 3 - $447 million The Amazing Spider-man - $307 million The Amazing Spider-man 2 - $222 million Every successive movie that they were making just did less and less money. They'd lost about two thirds of their audience across those movies. TASM2 barely made a profit, just about. Its no secret people didn't care for that movie, it was arguably even worse than Spider-man 3. Naturally The Amazing Spider-man 3 would have just made even less money still. Sony knew this and they made the smart decision by partnering with Disney. As a result Spider-man Homecoming actually saw an increase in gross for once and people did like it, more so than the last three movies that is undeniable. goodness me. so this is the same as batman track record in films. tim burton's batman = sam raimi spidey Joel Sch Batman - andrew garfield's spidey (and not as problematic) Nolan's Batman = So see Sony could have waited after the amazing spidery movies and rebooted it again for the 3rd time. They did reboot it for a 3rd time, with Tom Holland's Spiderman, and it was a success. In the end, that's what's really frustrating you. The fact that no matter how much you hate to admit it, SMHC was a solid, successful and well liked Spiderman movie that was far better than majority of Spiderman flicks before it.
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Post by DSDSquared on Dec 19, 2018 13:11:36 GMT
Venom was fun, but it is no where near as good of a movie as Homecoming. I love how the MCU is 'kiddie' yet Venom had some of the cheesiest scenes ever. The lobster tank scene was cringe worthy. The scene at the end with Mrs. Kim or whatever and Hardy's terrible lines were something closer to Spiderman 3 than an MCU movie. Homecoming was an enormous success in any metric you use, financially or critically. Quit while you're behind. I also liked Into the Spiderverse. It was very well done, but you do know that there was a talking Looney Tunes pig character in half the movie right? I mean, it is a kids movie and I had no problem with it, but acting like it is some serious comic book film while Homecoming was a joke is hilarious.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 19, 2018 13:30:26 GMT
when have I ever being wrong with a prediction guys
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Post by hobowar on Dec 19, 2018 16:46:11 GMT
I liked it more than Homecoming, but why be a dick about it?
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 19, 2018 16:47:33 GMT
when have I ever being wrong with a prediction guys Are you predicting Dark Phoenix is going to be successful?
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Post by summers8 on Dec 19, 2018 17:46:45 GMT
when have I ever being wrong with a prediction guys Are you predicting Dark Phoenix is going to be successful? No. I think for xmen standard of logan, deadpool, dofp. the movie will be a mess.
the story can not be done in one film
the director is not experienced
the cast is too young and not ready to take on such an iconic story line.
they should have scrapped dark phoenix and focused on new mutants. a better chance to revive the genre and shake things up.
see unlike you I am not A blind fan of xmen and dc. I call bad when I see bad.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 19, 2018 19:30:44 GMT
Are you predicting Dark Phoenix is going to be successful? No. I think for xmen standard of logan, deadpool, dofp. the movie will be a mess.
the story can not be done in one film
the director is not experienced
the cast is too young and not ready to take on such an iconic story line.
they should have scrapped dark phoenix and focused on new mutants. a better chance to revive the genre and shake things up.
see unlike you I am not A blind fan of xmen and dc. I call bad when I see bad.
So you admit Fox is incapable of properly doing the Dark Phoenix storyline? Glad we finally agree on something.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 19, 2018 20:05:18 GMT
No. I think for xmen standard of logan, deadpool, dofp. the movie will be a mess.
the story can not be done in one film
the director is not experienced
the cast is too young and not ready to take on such an iconic story line.
they should have scrapped dark phoenix and focused on new mutants. a better chance to revive the genre and shake things up.
see unlike you I am not A blind fan of xmen and dc. I call bad when I see bad.
So you admit Fox is incapable of properly doing the Dark Phoenix storyline? Glad we finally agree on something. LOL...That is not what I said you have already failed to twist things as seen in the BP oscar thread I made. you mcu fanatics makes me laugh. this is what happens when you guys are lap-pets and not actual fans who can criticise when it is necessary.
Yes, Fox are the only people that would have made a phoenix story line but this is not the right time to do so.
Fox already made DOFP a darker and arguably more gripping storyline. phoenix would not have been a problem at the right time.mcu disney cannot adapt any xmen story. they will find it too dark or too mature or too heavy.
look at into the spiderverse. sony could adapt a villain like kingpin for a cartoon. mcu cant even do it for films. that is how childish mcu is.sorry
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 19, 2018 20:29:41 GMT
So you admit Fox is incapable of properly doing the Dark Phoenix storyline? Glad we finally agree on something. LOL...That is not what I said you have already failed to twist things as seen in the BP oscar thread I made. you mcu fanatics makes me laugh. this is what happens when you guys are lap-pets and not actual fans who can criticise when it is necessary.
Yes, Fox are the only people that would have made a phoenix story line but this is not the right time to do so.
Fox already made DOFP a darker and arguably more gripping storyline. phoenix would not have been a problem at the right time.mcu disney cannot adapt any xmen story. they will find it too dark or too mature or too heavy.
look at into the spiderverse. sony could adapt a villain like kingpin for a cartoon. mcu cant even do it for films. that is how childish mcu is.sorry
Ok hold up: Fox already tried a Dark Phoenix movie before and it failed. I'm pretty sure we all agree on that. Now it's trying for a 2nd time and you admit that you believe it will fail again. Yet somehow you still insist that they can do it? You do realize that most studios only get one chance to get a movie right. If Fox is getting 2 tries at it and still failing that's pretty solid proof that they just can't. Or are you so biased that you don't want to acknolwedge this?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 14:05:09 GMT
when have I ever being wrong with a prediction guys
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 21, 2018 4:19:41 GMT
Into the Spiderverse superior to Homecoming? Um... why... yes! Yes, actually it was. I did enjoy Spiderverse more than I did Homecoming. Who woulda thought?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 21, 2018 4:20:56 GMT
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Post by hobowar on Dec 21, 2018 7:08:32 GMT
when have I ever being wrong with a prediction guys YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN RIGHT. EVER!
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