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Post by HorrorMetal on Dec 6, 2018 17:41:24 GMT
Who do you think portrays a better Flash and why?
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Post by politicidal on Dec 6, 2018 17:47:02 GMT
Grant Gustin as we've seen him have a life before the incident and his personality fleshed out better over time. As it was in JL, I found Miller one of the better written newcomers.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 6, 2018 18:18:26 GMT
Im liked Ezra Miller's Flash. Amongst the heroes he was the most relatable.
Grant Gustin is more traditional a portrayal, nice guy next door. Does not impress me much tbh. Admmittedly, I haven't seen too much of him, I know the fanbase loves him, it's already season 5 and ranked in the high 90% on RT. Must have some merits.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 7, 2018 2:42:18 GMT
I like both, but Gustin is more natural and relatable.
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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 7, 2018 2:43:07 GMT
Well we may never seen miller on the role if the rumors of Zatanna replacing flash is true
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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 7, 2018 2:47:31 GMT
If it was up to me judgedredd never read a flash comic
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Post by havenless on Dec 7, 2018 4:33:52 GMT
Im liked Ezra Miller's Flash. Amongst the heroes he was the most relatable. Grant Gustin is more traditional a portrayal, nice guy next door. Does not impress me much tbh. Admmittedly, I haven't seen too much of him, I know the fanbase loves him, it's already season 5 and ranked in the high 90% on RT. Must have some merits. But it does beg the question, if you’re going to change the character so dramatically, why did they still call him Barry Allen? It’s like they didn’t actually want the Flash to be in the movie, they just wanted a character with speed powers.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 7, 2018 5:08:40 GMT
Well we may never seen miller on the role if the rumors of Zatanna replacing flash is true But we already did in BvS and Justice League.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 7, 2018 5:09:39 GMT
Gustin, but it's mostly because he's had 100+ episodes to grow as the character while Miller's only played a major part in one movie and cameoed in two others.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 7, 2018 5:21:15 GMT
If it was up to me judgedredd never read a flash comic Actually I've read several Flash stories and was already familiar enough with the character and the mythos before I even began to collect comics seriously in my youth. Hartley's a good actor and all but he is more apt to play characters who are not exactly "just a face in the crowd" types, which is why he did well as Green Arrow on Smallville. Barry's not Quiesmodo but he's not a Christian Grey type either. We can also say that you haven't read many comics yourself given who you keep fan casting in this or that role with barely a believable reason to.
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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 7, 2018 6:19:35 GMT
Well we may never seen miller on the role if the rumors of Zatanna replacing flash is true But we already did in BvS and Justice League. BVS was a cameo and JL he was part of the ensemble. Thats as good aa it gets if the zatanna rumors are true
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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 7, 2018 6:21:29 GMT
If it was up to me judgedredd never read a flash comic Actually I've read several Flash stories and was already familiar enough with the character and the mythos before I even began to collect comics seriously in my youth. Hartley's a good actor and all but he is more apt to play characters who are not exactly "just a face in the crowd" types, which is why he did well as Green Arrow on Smallville. Barry's not Quiesmodo but he's not a Christian Grey type either. We can also say that you haven't read many comics yourself given who you keep fan casting in this or that role with barely a believable reason to. Its clear you haven't read comics if u think Miller is perfect casting. Hartley looks the part and can pull off an intellectual
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 7, 2018 7:02:45 GMT
Actually I've read several Flash stories and was already familiar enough with the character and the mythos before I even began to collect comics seriously in my youth. Hartley's a good actor and all but he is more apt to play characters who are not exactly "just a face in the crowd" types, which is why he did well as Green Arrow on Smallville. Barry's not Quiesmodo but he's not a Christian Grey type either. We can also say that you haven't read many comics yourself given who you keep fan casting in this or that role with barely a believable reason to. Its clear you haven't read comics if u think Miller is perfect casting. Hartley looks the part and can pull off an intellectual But I've never said Miller was perfect casting...Or that Hartley cannot pull off an intellectual. I've said the version of The Flash in the DCEU is meant to be young, like early 20's, and if given the right script and direction Miller could be really good because he has shown to be a very diverse and sharp acting talent. In We Need to Talk About Kevin he held his own very well working with Tilda Swinton which is no easy task for a young performer. And in that role he was scary as heck, his role in Perks of Being a Wallflower is 100% total turnaround where he's a very likeable character who has his friends back and is very good company. Bottom line - he can do better. Hartley is a fine actor, I watch "This Is Us" every week and he's one of my favorite characters, but he doesn't look like your typical average guy that you'd need for Barry. Rather than being a introverted face in the crowd who'd prefer to work in the lab all night Hartley has the look of a wealthy and successful socialite who is easily identifiable in public, the aspect made him a good fit for Oliver on Smallville where he did great in.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 7, 2018 7:05:22 GMT
But we already did in BvS and Justice League. BVS was a cameo and JL he was part of the ensemble. Thats as good aa it gets if the zatanna rumors are true Sorry, the way you worded your quote suggested he'd never been Flash before.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 7, 2018 20:11:10 GMT
Im liked Ezra Miller's Flash. Amongst the heroes he was the most relatable. Grant Gustin is more traditional a portrayal, nice guy next door. Does not impress me much tbh. Admmittedly, I haven't seen too much of him, I know the fanbase loves him, it's already season 5 and ranked in the high 90% on RT. Must have some merits. But it does beg the question, if you’re going to change the character so dramatically, why did they still call him Barry Allen? It’s like they didn’t actually want the Flash to be in the movie, they just wanted a character with speed powers. No it doesn't IMO. The reinterpretation of characters is part of dramatic licence and freedom since the inception of art. In any incarnation it's essentially still the Flash. Like Lego-Batman, 60's BM, Schumacher BM, Miller BM, Nolan/Burton/Snyder BM are the essentially the same charter. The same reason they still called it Ragnarök despite bastardizing that ancient myth into Fragglerock, and Thor and Loki into quipping comedians. Dramatic license, you do not have to like it, and some versions most definitely represent artistic raccoon turds and bat shit.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 7, 2018 20:17:13 GMT
Grant Gustin
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Post by havenless on Dec 7, 2018 21:13:15 GMT
But it does beg the question, if you’re going to change the character so dramatically, why did they still call him Barry Allen? It’s like they didn’t actually want the Flash to be in the movie, they just wanted a character with speed powers. No it doesn't IMO. The reinterpretation of characters is part of dramatic licence and freedom since the inception of art. In any incarnation it's essentially still the Flash. Like Lego-Batman, 60's BM, Schumacher BM, Miller BM, Nolan/Burton/Snyder BM are the essentially the same charter. The same reason they still called it Ragnarök despite bastardizing that ancient myth into Fragglerock, and Thor and Loki into quipping comedians. Dramatic license, you do not have to like it, and some versions most definitely represent artistic raccoon turds and bat shit. Why do you attack other movies so aggressively? Do you not see a movie, dislike it, and move on? Are you doing it to harass other users on this site?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 7, 2018 21:15:44 GMT
Gustin.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 7, 2018 21:31:43 GMT
No it doesn't IMO. The reinterpretation of characters is part of dramatic licence and freedom since the inception of art. In any incarnation it's essentially still the Flash. Like Lego-Batman, 60's BM, Schumacher BM, Miller BM, Nolan/Burton/Snyder BM are the essentially the same charter. The same reason they still called it Ragnarök despite bastardizing that ancient myth into Fragglerock, and Thor and Loki into quipping comedians. Dramatic license, you do not have to like it, and some versions most definitely represent artistic raccoon turds and bat shit. Why do you attack other movies so aggressively? Do you not see a movie, dislike it, and move on? Are you doing it to harass other users on this site? Why do you not stay on point, to harass me? Your question was answered. Deal with it. For any other questions, there is a posting history you can explore.
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Post by havenless on Dec 7, 2018 21:43:41 GMT
Why do you attack other movies so aggressively? Do you not see a movie, dislike it, and move on? Are you doing it to harass other users on this site? Why do you not stay on point, to harass me? Your question was answered. Deal with it. For any other questions, there is a posting history you can explore. I have no meaning of harassing you, why would anyone do that to anyone else? That’s was my miff. But I appreciated Gustin’s Background research on the character. I don’t entirely fault Ezra for that as higher powers make those decisions, and I do understand a large section of the audience has no knowledge of the comic material or just don’t care for it. He did make for a more diverse personality group on the JL, I’m sure that had a lot to do with it.
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