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Post by maya55555 on Apr 1, 2017 22:40:15 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 1, 2017 22:42:45 GMT
Well since the tides are controlled by the actions of the sun and moon a deviation in the orbit of the moon would affect the tides. That is basic science. Not necessarily. If the moon affects the tides, the moon is still up there to affect the tides. It has not been removed from the equation.
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Post by vomisacaasi on Apr 1, 2017 22:49:19 GMT
Yes it has not been removed from the equation but moving it several thousand miles will change the equation.
Going by the graphic in the video thumbnail the tides where the moon usually goes would be considerably lower than they are now and the tides where the moon is supposed to be now would be considerably higher.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 1, 2017 22:52:30 GMT
Yes it has not been removed from the equation but moving it several thousand miles will change the equation. Going by the graphic in the video thumbnail the tides where the moon usually goes would be considerably lower than they are now and the tides where the moon is supposed to be now would be considerably higher. Yes, so you claim. I heard you the first time.
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Post by vomisacaasi on Apr 1, 2017 22:55:33 GMT
Again it is basic science. The tides follow the sun and the moon. Generally about 6 hours behind the moon. The moon is pulling on the earth directly below its path. If that path is moved so too is the pull on the earth. It is really simple. But then I suppose you would need to do some collating to confirm this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 22:56:53 GMT
In addition to this massive change in the day/night ratio around most of the world, the giant wobble of the Earth's axis will greatly affect the world's tides. But of course it's very likely that nobody will notice that either. Because absolutely nobody pays attention to the tides. It's not like ships entering and leaving ports need to pay any heed to them or anything. What your evidence that it would greatly affect the tides? Well, some basic high school level knowledge about what causes the tides is helpful. The tides are caused by the gravitational pull of the moon. (Primarily. The sun gets involved too). It causes a "bulge" in the oceans, with one peak of the bulge below the moon, and another on the opposite side of the world. Like this : So if the Earth's axis wobbles around by ten or twenty degrees or more, as claimed in the video you linked, then it would drag those bulges to new places. Places that would be upwards of a thousand kilometres away from where they are now. And that's just assuming the axis tilted directly towards or away from the moon. If it tilted in a different plane - and it almost certainly would, just by random chance - then the effects would be even more pronounced. These effects would change the tidal patterns in literally every single place in the world that experiences tides. Every last coastal community, from big cities to tiny little third world fishing villages, would see it plain as day with their own eyes, every single day. Twice a day, actually. It would directly affect people by the millions. Do you think people might notice this if it happened, I wonder?
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Post by puvo on Apr 1, 2017 23:06:11 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 1, 2017 23:08:42 GMT
Again it is basic science. The tides follow the sun and the moon. Generally about 6 hours behind the moon. The moon is pulling on the earth directly below its path. If that path is moved so too is the pull on the earth. It is really simple. But then I suppose you would need to do some collating to confirm this. Yes, with all due respect to you and graham. I am skeptical of information obtained from the godless.
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Post by puvo on Apr 1, 2017 23:12:22 GMT
Again it is basic science. The tides follow the sun and the moon. Generally about 6 hours behind the moon. The moon is pulling on the earth directly below its path. If that path is moved so too is the pull on the earth. It is really simple. But then I suppose you would need to do some collating to confirm this. Yes, with all due respect to you and graham. I am skeptical of information obtained from the godless. Then look up how the tides work. Plenty of online scientific resources explain it. Also look up tidal locking. It'll explain how you were wrong about seeing a different part of the moon. That should show you your own 'observations' aren't reliable.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 1, 2017 23:14:35 GMT
Yes, with all due respect to you and graham. I am skeptical of information obtained from the godless. Then look up how the tides work. Plenty of online scientific resources explain it. Also look up tidal locking. It'll explain how you were wrong about seeing a different part of the moon. That should show you your own 'observations' aren't reliable. They are reliable. Several times I have seen the moon where it ought not to be.
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Post by puvo on Apr 1, 2017 23:20:07 GMT
Then look up how the tides work. Plenty of online scientific resources explain it. Also look up tidal locking. It'll explain how you were wrong about seeing a different part of the moon. That should show you your own 'observations' aren't reliable. They are reliable. Several times I have seen the moon where it ought not to be. So, is that a no you aren't going to look up how tides work, and tidal locking? You almost actually learned something. The other things is you have no idea about where the moon is supposed to be, and have greatly underestimated the normal variance in location it is supposed to have. I bet you havent bothered to look that up either
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Post by vomisacaasi on Apr 1, 2017 23:24:25 GMT
Yeah no you have not.
You only think so because you do not remember what it looked like before. You yourself admitted that you did not start looking up until a few years ago.
You like many other people have had your head buried in your own troubles not bothering to see what is around you. Then along comes the internet and suddenly you are awoke and someone tells you there is something wrong with the way things are. You listen to them because you now have someone to blame other than yourself.
They come along and tell you this secret info and everything starts to fall into place. It does not matter what they are telling you does not fit what is actually known because now you are 'woke' and you will not go back to sleep. It does matter that the information is there for you do figure it out for yourself because they have told you that those people can not be trusted.
So you go ahead deny. When the next eclipse comes around ignore the incongruity pretend that this video does not exist and move on to the next subject that you can feel superior about because you are 'woke' and we are just sheeple.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 1, 2017 23:33:58 GMT
They are reliable. Several times I have seen the moon where it ought not to be. So, is that a no you aren't going to look up how tides work, and tidal locking? You almost actually learned something. The other things is you have no idea about where the moon is supposed to be, and have greatly underestimated the normal variance in location it is supposed to have. I bet you havent bothered to look that up either Yes, I do, young master. I can see both the sun and the moon at present, and the moon is where it's supposed to be today. The sun always was as far as I could tell, and the stars. If they are out of whack it was a difference too small to be noted by the naked eye. And besides, the diagram that graham posted used the round earth model. Don't you think that the flat earth model should be represented as well, just to make it fair?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 23:37:48 GMT
Again it is basic science. The tides follow the sun and the moon. Generally about 6 hours behind the moon. The moon is pulling on the earth directly below its path. If that path is moved so too is the pull on the earth. It is really simple. But then I suppose you would need to do some collating to confirm this. Yes, with all due respect to you and graham. I am skeptical of information obtained from the godless. Everybody is skeptical about things they don't want to believe. The real trick is to be skeptical of the things you wish were true. You should try it sometime.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 23:38:39 GMT
Then look up how the tides work. Plenty of online scientific resources explain it. Also look up tidal locking. It'll explain how you were wrong about seeing a different part of the moon. That should show you your own 'observations' aren't reliable. They are reliable. Several times I have seen the moon where it ought not to be. No, you haven't. You just think you have.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 1, 2017 23:39:44 GMT
Yeah no you have not. You only think so because you do not remember what it looked like before. You yourself admitted that you did not start looking up until a few years ago. You like many other people have had your head buried in your own troubles not bothering to see what is around you. Then along comes the internet and suddenly you are awoke and someone tells you there is something wrong with the way things are. You listen to them because you now have someone to blame other than yourself. They come along and tell you this secret info and everything starts to fall into place. It does not matter what they are telling you does not fit what is actually known because now you are 'woke' and you will not go back to sleep. It does matter that the information is there for you do figure it out for yourself because they have told you that those people can not be trusted. So you go ahead deny. When the next eclipse comes around ignore the incongruity pretend that this video does not exist and move on to the next subject that you can feel superior about because you are 'woke' and we are just sheeple. Please calm yourself, vomisacaasi. It may not be healthy for a senior citizen like you to get so worked up.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 1, 2017 23:41:01 GMT
tpfkar Your plan to periodically drop in to remind us how inane and thoroughly useless you are? BTW, I am more than fine now and ErJen has photos. Baldness is common in men. For me it was a fluke.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 1, 2017 23:41:04 GMT
They are reliable. Several times I have seen the moon where it ought not to be. No, you haven't. You just think you have. No, you just think that I just think I have. It comforts you to think that.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 1, 2017 23:41:57 GMT
tpfkar Your plan to periodically drop in to remind us how inane and thoroughly useless you are? BTW, I am more than fine now and ErJen has photos. Baldness is common in men. For me it was a fluke.Piss off, worov.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 1, 2017 23:46:17 GMT
Yes, with all due respect to you and graham. I am skeptical of information obtained from the godless. Everybody is skeptical about things they don't want to believe. The real trick is to be skeptical of the things you wish were true. You should try it sometime. Actually, with regard to the changes that the earth and the human collective are going to undergo in the near future, I do wish they weren't true.
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