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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 22, 2018 14:07:51 GMT
I am NOT an expert on Aquaman/etc., I was always a Batman & Wonder Woman nerd when it came to DC but.... if I had to venture a guess on the High Borns breathing air/water while others. Or multiples guesses. 1.Royal breeding: Many nobles being the 3rd sons/2nd daughters/etc. of the direct royal line, so they get married off to other nobles, creating these Royal Cousins as far as blood is concerned while their actual rank may be Viscount or Countess. But the royals that are direct, might not always marry within the kingdom (or species, in this case) and may marry outsiders for the purpose to trade/treaties, so a King's first born son is married to the 3rd daughter of a non-Atlantian, and their children are like Aquaman. But those children all marry Atlantians, and their children marry Atlantians, and so on. But that gene is still in there, especially if you have these Royal Cousins sometimes marrying other Royal Cousins, so they get a double-dose of this old gene. 2.Genetic manipulation, in the distant past, to make the Leadership Class able to go outside the ocean to deal with other kingdoms. So if you had the bad guys like Steppenwolf, showing up to nuke the whole planet - these people who are able to breathe air, can team up with the Amazons & co. to defeat the Big Bad before it fully invades the seas. 3.Perhaps, way back when, there were some Atlantians who had the genetic oops that allowed them to breathe air, while others did not (think that first monkey with an opposable thumb), and so it was decided because they could venture on land to make treaties or scoop up resources, that those who could breathe in both were advanced to higher positions like General and/or King, while the others were left to be the rank and file. those are the most likely explanations, or it could be purely technical or medicinal like in real life, the High Borns simply have access to medtech augmentation that enables them to breath air, and the commoners don't. It's a futuristic weird-tech society after all and a very interesting world building aspect lending itself to allegory. Maybe this will be further explored in the follow ups. The background explanation is irrelevant, but the point is relevant for the future storytelling.
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Post by Vassaggo on Dec 22, 2018 20:01:49 GMT
I don't mind high ranking/royal line etc having that ability that's cool. Mera using her Aquakinesis to form an Air Bubble to to talk to Arthur in Justice League is kind of stupid now. (well was stupid then and I guess a money saving issue??? Who knows with that huge budget you wouldn't think so)
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Post by Jedan Archer on Dec 22, 2018 20:33:16 GMT
I don't mind high ranking/royal line etc having that ability that's cool. Mera using her Aquakinesis to form an Air Bubble to to talk to Arthur in Justice League is kind of stupid now. (well was stupid then and I guess a money saving issue??? Who knows with that huge budget you wouldn't think so) Eh, kind of not. In Aquaman they show and tell that they create air bubble for security reasons so they aren't overheard by the lower ranks. Seems the OP-er has completely missed all of that amidst his whining. So those bubbles work wonders breaking third wall security too.
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Post by Vassaggo on Dec 22, 2018 20:39:45 GMT
I don't mind high ranking/royal line etc having that ability that's cool. Mera using her Aquakinesis to form an Air Bubble to to talk to Arthur in Justice League is kind of stupid now. (well was stupid then and I guess a money saving issue??? Who knows with that huge budget you wouldn't think so) Eh, kind of not. In Aquaman they show and tell that they create air bubble for security reasons so they aren't overheard by the lower ranks. Seems the OP-er has completely missed all of that amidst his whining. So those bubbles work wonders breaking third wall security too. I guess. I get how you can keep the lower ranks out of an area with air (unless they put on one of their suits which would defeat it.) The hearing thing is easy though stick an ear in the air bubble in JL. The conversations underwater just made the air bubble conversation seem stupid in the first one to me.
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Post by James on Dec 23, 2018 4:30:25 GMT
They’ve adapted to the air more than the others. I’m guessing. Or maybe it’s about having the wisdom and knowledge about the land that makes them breathe air.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 24, 2018 0:51:09 GMT
Have to take back what I said here. It was indeed explained that the high born Atlanteans could breathe both air and water.
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Post by leesilm on Dec 26, 2018 4:04:19 GMT
I don't mind high ranking/royal line etc having that ability that's cool. Mera using her Aquakinesis to form an Air Bubble to to talk to Arthur in Justice League is kind of stupid now. (well was stupid then and I guess a money saving issue??? Who knows with that huge budget you wouldn't think so) I haven't seen AQUAMAN yet, but perhaps Mera wasn't (before she got a good look at him/etc., just seeing him in the middle of a fight) sure about who he was, so she made the bubble. If he's highborn - he'll breathe and be fine, if he starts acting like a fish out of water, he's a regular Atlantian who she didn't happen to remember?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 26, 2018 10:31:53 GMT
I don't mind high ranking/royal line etc having that ability that's cool. Mera using her Aquakinesis to form an Air Bubble to to talk to Arthur in Justice League is kind of stupid now. (well was stupid then and I guess a money saving issue??? Who knows with that huge budget you wouldn't think so) I haven't seen AQUAMAN yet, but perhaps Mera wasn't (before she got a good look at him/etc., just seeing him in the middle of a fight) sure about who he was, so she made the bubble. If he's highborn - he'll breathe and be fine, if he starts acting like a fish out of water, he's a regular Atlantian who she didn't happen to remember? the real life reason was probably that in the Snyder-Atlantis you needed air to talk traditionally. This was elegantly retconed in Aquaman, where they found a way of having character talk underwater without bubble. In a scene they show that they create air bubbles for security so not to be spied on by the low borns. This might retroactively be the reason Mera did it in JL after being attacked by Steppenwolf and discussing royal politics. Your explanation plays into this and is perfectly valid as well.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 28, 2018 7:24:44 GMT
This whole royal air business is making me flash back to the Kryptonian atmosphere debacle of Man of Steel.
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