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Post by snsurone on Dec 20, 2018 19:43:49 GMT
This is one of the few really funny Popeye cartoons of the post-Fleischer period. In it, Popeye and Olive attend a political rally where two male windbags spout out nonsense (seem familiar?). Olive sees how phony they are ("Oh, their parlez-vooey is a lot of hooey!"), and imagines what things would be like if she were President. When Popeye jeers at her, she whacks him with an iron skillet (who knows where she got it, LOL). Popeye then dreams that Olive is actually campaigning, and she sings her speech. She wins in a landslide! Popeye is next seen in a Congressional balcony, cheering her on as she proposes programs to the chamber made up entirely of donkeys and elephants, the former supporting her ideas, the latter rejecting them. Obviously, Olive is a Democrat. At the end, when Popeye comes to, he parades Olive through the streets, dressed as Lady Liberty.
Granted, the cartoon is dated and a bit sexist in its belief that women need men to define them. And Olive has powers that no real-lifr POTUS could ever have. But let's not forget that it was all Popeye's dream, and it still is a lot of fun to watch. Olive arguably gives her best performance in any Popeye cartoon.
Makes me wonder how effective she really would be as President. Surely, more so than the Orange Baboon there now!
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 20, 2018 21:05:39 GMT
I liked the Paramount Popeye shorts. Sure, they were merely a variation on a theme (what cartoon isn't?). But I like the artwork. This one was good. Didn't Olive ask "Why don't women run fro Preidnet?" And Popeye replied "Because they're too busy running after men (husbands)? Ah gak gak gak gak.
Wasn't Olive Oyl for President a remake of Betty Boop for President? Seem to remember, but am too lazy to look it up
Also, a rare Spinach free short.
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Post by snsurone on Dec 20, 2018 22:13:33 GMT
A rare Bluto-free short, too.
One thing I love is the "cameos" of famous actors. For example, an old maiden lady looks under her bed skirt and finds William Bendix there. And Olive's cabinet consisted of Alan Ladd, William Holden, Bing Crosby, Bob Hope, and Ray Milland. All Paramount stars, BTW. LOL
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Post by teleadm on Dec 21, 2018 17:21:51 GMT
![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/1b/88/711b881924459d7e7c895eceb496905f.png) The great Mae Questel (!908 - 1998). It's a nice pic, but I question if she ever voiced Minnie and Krazy.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 21, 2018 19:25:24 GMT
A rare Bluto-free short, too. One thing I love is the "cameos" of famous actors. For example, an old maiden lady looks under her bed skirt and finds William Bendix there. And Olive's cabinet consisted of Alan Ladd, William Holden, Bing Crosby, Bob Hope, and Ray Milland. All Paramount stars, BTW. LOL The Paramount/Famous Studios shorts had a lot of Bluto free cartoon, but they would make a variation of Bluto. I remember one where Olive feel for a caveman, who was just a prehistoric Bluto. There was a Native American Bluto, Hercules was Bluto-esque etc. Like I said, variations on a theme. God, Olive Oyl was a you know what. Cartoon starts and she's with Popeye. He's not eye candy, but he treats her good. Then she seen "muskle" bound Bluto and throws Popeye away like the heel of a loaf of bread. When Bluto tries to rape her, who does she call, yep. And then he gets thumped and has to eat Spinach. I would have rather gone out with the Sea Hag. Ol' OO must have been good in bed because she wasn't eye candy either. Fun fact, Olive Oyl was older (as a toon) than Popeye. Olive was created in 1919, Popeye in 1929. She was a flapper girl, modeled after Zazu Pitts. Loved her family, father, Cole Oyl, mother Nana (Banana) Oyl. Brothers Crude Oyl (ha ha) and Castor Oyl. My Favorite was her rich rich uncle, Standard Oyl.
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Post by snsurone on Dec 26, 2018 18:55:08 GMT
That's basically what I hate about those later Paramount Popeye cartoons. Like most items from the Paramount animation department, they followed a steady formula and seldom varied it. OLIVE OYL FOR PRESIDENT was a rare exception.
There's a book I'd like to recommend called "Of Mice and Magic" by noted film critic Leonard Maltin. In it, he discussed the cartoon series of each of Hollywood's major studios. You'll see that he had very little to say about the Paramount output.
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Post by politicidal on Dec 28, 2018 1:01:49 GMT
I remember the elephant/donkey gag but could not for the life of me identify the cartoon.
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Post by snsurone on Dec 28, 2018 14:18:42 GMT
![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/1b/88/711b881924459d7e7c895eceb496905f.png) The great Mae Questel (!908 - 1998). It's a nice pic, but I question if she ever voiced Minnie and Krazy. Krazy Kat? That picture is of Felix! Betty Boop was patterned after actress Helen Kane.
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Post by teleadm on Dec 28, 2018 17:06:42 GMT
![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/1b/88/711b881924459d7e7c895eceb496905f.png) The great Mae Questel (!908 - 1998). It's a nice pic, but I question if she ever voiced Minnie and Krazy. Krazy Kat? That picture is of Felix! Betty Boop was patterned after actress Helen Kane. The reason I put up the pic was because Mae voiced Olive in the movie in question. Mae also voiced Betty Boop in the 1930's plus Who Framed Roger Rabbit? 1988, although the character was based on Helen Kane. Yes I was thinking of Felix, but somehow I in all haste mixed him up with Krazy. Sometimes I think it's fun to see how the person behind the famous voices looks like, that's all. ![](https://i0.wp.com/factrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/7.Aunt-Bethany.jpg) Mae Questel's screen farewell in National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation 1989
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Post by snsurone on Dec 28, 2018 17:23:50 GMT
Thank you for the explanation, tele.
BTW, there was also a Paramount cartoon called POPEYE FOR PRESIDENT, which was made to coincide with the 1956 presidential election. It was a typical Popeye vs. Bluto short of the time, only except of fighting for Olive's virtue, they fought for her vote! Seemed that she was the only one who could break the tie between the two rivals. IMO, it's utterly stupid, and can't hold a candle to OLIVE OYL FOR PRESIDENT.
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Post by teleadm on Dec 28, 2018 18:00:43 GMT
Thank you for the explanation, tele. BTW, there was also a Paramount cartoon called POPEYE FOR PRESIDENT, which was made to coincide with the 1956 presidential election. It was a typical Popeye vs. Bluto short of the time, only except of fighting for Olive's virtue, they fought for her vote! Seemed that she was the only one who could break the tie between the two rivals. IMO, it's utterly stupid, and can't hold a candle to OLIVE OYL FOR PRESIDENT. Wonder if that could have been the inspiration for the movie Swing Vote 2008, where it's up to one vote who will become next USA president, where it's Kelsey Grammer and Dennis Hopper who is trying to win Kevin Costners one vote that matters. Just a thought. It was a comedy with some funny parts, and some biting satire.
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