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Post by DSDSquared on Dec 21, 2018 18:27:56 GMT
Come on man. I know you are a hater, but ask yourself if you really believe this. There is no way that Brady can't be at the top of the list. I am not a Brady fan. I actually think Rodgers is the more talented QB, but I would never rank Rodgers ahead of Brady because I can't. Brady has just accomplished too much. I rank Brady below those other 3 because most of what Brady has accomplished has been by cheating and fraudulent means. It's quite simple, but you Brady fanboys don't seem to understand so I'll try to explain it more simply for you. Would Barry Bonds have still hit 500+ home runs and be a great player without steroids? Yes, he would. But would Barry Bonds have joined Hank Aaron and Babe Ruth in the 700+ home run club without steroids? Probably not. It's steroids that turned Bonds from a 500+, maybe 600+ home run hitter into only the 3rd 700+ home run hitter in MLB history. Same with Shady Brady. Without cheating, Shady Brady is still a good QB. But without cheating, Shady Brady isn't close to being as great as Joe Montana or Peyton Manning or many of the other all-time great QBs. It's cheating that helped Shady Brady reach the levels of Montana and Manning and many other great QBs. Now you Brady fanboys like sucking Brady's dick so much that you're willing to give him a free pass for all that cheating, but I don't give free passes to athletes who cheat. I rooted for Ben Johnson to win the 100-meter sprint at the 1988 Olympics. But after he won, it was discovered that he cheated and was nothing more than a fraud, just like Shady Brady. I don't give a free pass to Ben Johnson or other cheaters like Lance Armstrong and Rosie Ruiz. And I also don't give a free pass to Shady Brady, the biggest cheater and fraud in NFL history. And you Brady fanboys shouldn't blame me for Brady getting caught cheating. You should blame Shady Brady for choosing to take a shortcut and cheat rather than try to earn his accomplishments and championships like many others have done. I knew this was coming and I should have known better. I am FAR from a Brady fan at all and I have told you that many times.
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Post by NJtoTX on Dec 21, 2018 18:34:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 18:47:56 GMT
Peterman JaMarcus Russell Weeden Geno Smith Clausen So you’re just going snub Joey Harrington? You need to get your head checked
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Post by DSDSquared on Dec 21, 2018 18:57:18 GMT
Peterman JaMarcus Russell Weeden Geno Smith Clausen So you’re just going snub Joey Harrington? You need to get your head checked The lack of Blake Bortles in this thread is disturbing.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 21, 2018 19:09:53 GMT
Peterman JaMarcus Russell Weeden Geno Smith Clausen I forgot about Clausen. Literally, I forgot that guy existed.
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Post by flyerzzrul on Dec 21, 2018 23:09:38 GMT
Peterman JaMarcus Russell Weeden Geno Smith Clausen Any top 5 list without Johnny Football is fraudulent!
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Post by sdm3 on Dec 22, 2018 2:01:44 GMT
Peterman JaMarcus Russell Weeden Geno Smith Clausen Um, no Christian Hackenburg?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 4:20:17 GMT
Brady Peyton Rodgers Brees
All 4 of them should be shoe ins above Big Ben.
Brady is arguably the GOAT. Manning as well. Rodgers is the most talented QB I've ever seen in my lifetime with 2 MVP awards. Brees is right there with Rodgers and Manning in my mind but I dock those 2 a bit for playing so many games inside domes. I personally hate teams that play in domes.
Big Ben has 2 super bowl rings. But so does Eli Manning. The idea that super bowl rings are the end all be all argument as to who are better players is a media creation. Just because Ben and Eli have 2 will never in my mind make them better QB's than Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees.
So when it comes to the final 5th spot it's between Ben and Rivers in my mind. Despite having 2 rings I'll never consider Eli to be a better QB than Philip Rivers. While I'm sure Eli will get into the HOF because of those rings and his last name I don't really consider him to be much of one. Ben? I'd say he's had the better career than Eli and Rivers. So because I think Eli gets into the HOF regardless of my opinion of him as a QB then Ben is a shoe in. Ben then gets my fifth spot. While rings aren't the end all be all that the media wants to make people think they are, they do matter. Ben's 2 rings definitely puts him ahead of Rivers who I put ahead of Manning.
1. Brady 2. Peyton 3. Rodgers 4. Brees 5. Ben
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 4:32:37 GMT
Is it possible that Rodgers is a tad overrated? I’m not saying he’s Andy Dalton, but for someone supposedly as great as he is, surely he should have at least gotten to more than one Super Bowl. I know he’s had a bumpkin as a coach for a lot of years but still. Of the modern QBs Brady, Peyton, and *Brees are all better, and Roethlisberger is just as good with a different skill set. *I know Brees has so far gotten to only one super bowl, but anyone who doesn’t think Brees is by far the better QB is clearly a victim of the opioid crisis. I don't think that's really fair at all. How many MVP's has Ben or Brees won? Last I checked Rodgers has 2 MVP's and they both have zero. That's judging a guy on 16 games seasons instead of a 4 or 3 game playoffs. Yes super bowl rings matter but just because a guy has 2 doesn't mean that they are automatically better than a guy with 1. The media has created this narrative that Wins and Super Bowl rings are QB stats. As if the other 52 players on the roster don't contribute what so ever. This season has shown just how much they have depended on Aaron Rodgers being nearly perfect to win games because of these bad draft classes that Thompson has given him to work with. Literally not a single player from the 2015 draft class is even on this team anymore. That's how bad Ted Thompson was down the stretch of his tenure that lasted a couple years too long. Rodgers in my mind isn't over rated because he has had McCarthy as his head coach and for the past 4 or 5 years had a GM that relied on draft and develop only to have REALLY bad drafts. Aaron Rodgers has had to carry the carcass of McCarthy and mediocre players outside of 5-10 and got them to 2 NFC Championship games (after their SB). 1 of which he basically did all by himself a couple years ago losing to the far better Falcons team. Then since it's a team game and not just 1 player I'd argue that Rodgers would have 2 Super Bowl rings if it wasn't for Brandon Bostik fucking up the onside kick against the Seahawks. I truly believe that the Packers would have beaten the Patriots in that Super Bowl. In the end, yes he has only gotten to 1 super bowl. It is insanely hard to get to let alone win a Super Bowl. However Super Bowls are not the only thing to judge QB's on. You can think that Drew Brees is better than Aaron Rodgers. I personally do not but I do not fault anyone who does. However Aaron Rodgers is not over rated. That's the type of take I'd expect to see by garbage like Collin Cowherd.
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Post by sdm3 on Dec 22, 2018 4:59:30 GMT
Is it possible that Rodgers is a tad overrated? I’m not saying he’s Andy Dalton, but for someone supposedly as great as he is, surely he should have at least gotten to more than one Super Bowl. I know he’s had a bumpkin as a coach for a lot of years but still. Of the modern QBs Brady, Peyton, and *Brees are all better, and Roethlisberger is just as good with a different skill set. *I know Brees has so far gotten to only one super bowl, but anyone who doesn’t think Brees is by far the better QB is clearly a victim of the opioid crisis. Rodgers would definitely have reached the Super Bowl in that 2014 season but for a completely inexcusable collapse by his team. We were kinda robbed as NFL fans of Brady/Rodgers in SB49. It's really hard to get to a Super Bowl; so much depends on luck and what your teammates do on the other side of the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 5:04:48 GMT
Is it possible that Rodgers is a tad overrated? I’m not saying he’s Andy Dalton, but for someone supposedly as great as he is, surely he should have at least gotten to more than one Super Bowl. I know he’s had a bumpkin as a coach for a lot of years but still. Of the modern QBs Brady, Peyton, and *Brees are all better, and Roethlisberger is just as good with a different skill set. *I know Brees has so far gotten to only one super bowl, but anyone who doesn’t think Brees is by far the better QB is clearly a victim of the opioid crisis. Rodgers would definitely have reached the Super Bowl in that 2014 season but for a completely inexcusable collapse by his team. We were kinda robbed as NFL fans of Brady/Rodgers in SB49. It's really hard to get to a Super Bowl; so much depends on luck and what your teammates do on the other side of the ball. That game still fucking haunts me. Bostick gets all of the blame but A LOT of people forget how badly HaHa Clinton Dix played the 2 point conversion prior. Wilson was scrambling for his life and ends up finding a wide open receiver as HaHa looks like an idiot letting him get it. It was like the slowest pass I've ever seen, was just a lob like an underhand toss.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2018 5:26:25 GMT
Peterman JaMarcus Russell Weeden Geno Smith Clausen I forgot about Clausen. Literally, I forgot that guy existed. The only thing I remember about Clausen was how pissed off Mel Kiper Jr was during the draft because he was like his top ranked QB and he just kept falling and falling. You could see it in his face how pissed off he was and how much it made him look like a hack. If I was on the booth with him I'd have been mocking him relentlessly.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Dec 22, 2018 12:20:23 GMT
Come on man. I know you are a hater, but ask yourself if you really believe this. There is no way that Brady can't be at the top of the list. I am not a Brady fan. I actually think Rodgers is the more talented QB, but I would never rank Rodgers ahead of Brady because I can't. Brady has just accomplished too much. I rank Brady below those other 3 because most of what Brady has accomplished has been by cheating and fraudulent means. It's quite simple, but you Brady fanboys don't seem to understand so I'll try to explain it more simply for you. Would Barry Bonds have still hit 500+ home runs and be a great player without steroids? Yes, he would. But would Barry Bonds have joined Hank Aaron and Babe Ruth in the 700+ home run club without steroids? Probably not. It's steroids that turned Bonds from a 500+, maybe 600+ home run hitter into only the 3rd 700+ home run hitter in MLB history. Same with Shady Brady. Without cheating, Shady Brady is still a good QB. But without cheating, Shady Brady isn't close to being as great as Joe Montana or Peyton Manning or many of the other all-time great QBs. It's cheating that helped Shady Brady reach the levels of Montana and Manning and many other great QBs. Now you Brady fanboys like sucking Brady's dick so much that you're willing to give him a free pass for all that cheating, but I don't give free passes to athletes who cheat. I rooted for Ben Johnson to win the 100-meter sprint at the 1988 Olympics. But after he won, it was discovered that he cheated and was nothing more than a fraud, just like Shady Brady. I don't give a free pass to Ben Johnson or other cheaters like Lance Armstrong and Rosie Ruiz. And I also don't give a free pass to Shady Brady, the biggest cheater and fraud in NFL history. And you Brady fanboys shouldn't blame me for Brady getting caught cheating. You should blame Shady Brady for choosing to take a shortcut and cheat rather than try to earn his accomplishments and championships like many others have done.
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