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Post by brownstones on Mar 30, 2017 19:18:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 19:48:23 GMT
They're still threatening us with that one, huh?
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Post by brownstones on Mar 30, 2017 21:36:24 GMT
They're still threatening us with that one, huh? i'm guessing you don't want a live action akira? |
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Post by politicidal on Mar 30, 2017 21:45:16 GMT
They're still threatening us with that one, huh? i'm guessing you don't want a live action akira? Some things are better done via animation instead of live action. |
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2017 0:36:45 GMT
Cameron was going to give us Battle angel Aleta.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 31, 2017 0:46:09 GMT
Cameron was going to give us Battle angel Aleta. well nothing is set in stone, but WB has been trying to get it made for years so this is another attempt. besides we're getting a Rodriguez Battle Angel film........so at the very least one exists. |
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2017 1:09:44 GMT
It was going to be a sequel to Avatar, then Aleta, then Avatar 3.
I hated Avatar
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 2:31:54 GMT
They're still threatening us with that one, huh? i'm guessing you don't want a live action akira? So what the last GOOD Japanese anime-to-America live-action film adaptation you saw? I recall Speed Racer and Dragonball: Evolution both sucking and flopping. |
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Post by brownstones on Mar 31, 2017 3:39:04 GMT
i'm guessing you don't want a live action akira? So what the last GOOD Japanese anime-to-America live-action film adaptation you saw? I recall Speed Racer and Dragonball: Evolution both sucking and flopping. Well......that would be like saying "why should make another Captain America movie since the 1970's and 1990's films were garbage? It's useless to try" |
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Post by brownstones on Mar 31, 2017 3:42:03 GMT
It was going to be a sequel to Avatar, then Aleta, then Avatar 3. I hated Avatar Are you telling me that you don't want Avatar 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, aaaaand 21? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 4:08:10 GMT
So what the last GOOD Japanese anime-to-America live-action film adaptation you saw? I recall Speed Racer and Dragonball: Evolution both sucking and flopping. Well......that would be like saying "why should make another Captain America movie since the 1970's and 1990's films were garbage? It's useless to try" Translating anime to the Western hemisphere big screen is a bit more complicated than even that. With things like Dragonball, Speed Racer, Ghost in the Shell, and Akira, you have more than a bit of a cultural barrier at play. To be perfectly frank, the filmmakers not understanding the culture and mindset that birthed the material is a big part of why Dragonball: Evolution failed. |
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2017 5:02:37 GMT
Well......that would be like saying "why should make another Captain America movie since the 1970's and 1990's films were garbage? It's useless to try" Translating anime to the Western hemisphere big screen is a bit more complicated than even that. With things like Dragonball, Speed Racer, Ghost in the Shell, and Akira, you have more than a bit of a cultural barrier at play. To be perfectly frank, the filmmakers not understanding the culture and mindset that birthed the material is a big part of why Dragonball: Evolution failed. I enjoyed DBE. I'm a child of the 60s. When I was around 5 I loved a show about a man's mother coming back after dying as a car. Present it. Stay inside the lines you have created. Make it interesting. I was surprised by how much they changed in DBE yet kept so much I vaguely remember Speed Racer from my childhood. I enjoyed the movie. People get so damned attached to their precious childhood memories. You can't go back. It's all forward. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 5:13:02 GMT
Translating anime to the Western hemisphere big screen is a bit more complicated than even that. With things like Dragonball, Speed Racer, Ghost in the Shell, and Akira, you have more than a bit of a cultural barrier at play. To be perfectly frank, the filmmakers not understanding the culture and mindset that birthed the material is a big part of why Dragonball: Evolution failed. I enjoyed DBE. I'm a child of the 60s. When I was around 5 I loved a show about a man's mother coming back after dying as a car. Present it. Stay inside the lines you have created. Make it interesting. I was surprised by how much they changed in DBE yet kept so much I vaguely remember Speed Racer from my childhood. I enjoyed the movie. People get so damned attached to their precious childhood memories. You can't go back. It's all forward. Fair enough. However, I don't think it was just the people who watched the originals who didn't like the two films. I know there were a lot of new audience members who didn't, either. One of the things Akira is going to have to overcome is being based on one of the cornerstone anime works. Expectations are going to be high and I doubt the filmmakers will be able to live up to the original in many people's eyes. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 31, 2017 6:00:06 GMT
Like Adam Wingard, Jordan Peele should stick to his original idea of making horror films. These manga-to-Hollywood live action movies have pretty much the same success rate as video game adaptations.
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2017 6:11:30 GMT
Like Adam Wingard, Jordan Peele should stick to his original idea of making horror films. These manga-to-Hollywood live action movies have pretty much the same success rate as video game adaptations. Never saw Keanu? Peele's movie from last year? Peele is a nerd. One of us. A fanboy They've brought the show back on Comedy Central so you can catch it if you care to. Get Out fits the style. Keanu was probably more the style of the show-panning out & hitting everything they're interested in. His next could be sci-fi & it would be inside his base. Like Keanu had the freaky killer team that couldn't be killed. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 31, 2017 6:16:47 GMT
Like Adam Wingard, Jordan Peele should stick to his original idea of making horror films. These manga-to-Hollywood live action movies have pretty much the same success rate as video game adaptations. Never saw Keanu? Peele's movie from last year? Peele is a nerd. One of us. A fanboy They've brought the show back on Comedy Central so you can catch it if you care to. Get Out fits the style. Keanu was probably more the style of the show-panning out & hitting everything they're interested in. His next could be sci-fi & it would be inside his base. Like Keanu had the freaky killer team that couldn't be killed. I've seen Keanu and I've seen Key and Peele. I don't question his nerd cred, I just don't think he should be fucking with this cursed genre. I'd be interested in an original sci-fi film from him, though. |
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2017 6:20:13 GMT
I enjoyed DBE. I'm a child of the 60s. When I was around 5 I loved a show about a man's mother coming back after dying as a car. Present it. Stay inside the lines you have created. Make it interesting. I was surprised by how much they changed in DBE yet kept so much I vaguely remember Speed Racer from my childhood. I enjoyed the movie. People get so damned attached to their precious childhood memories. You can't go back. It's all forward. Fair enough. However, I don't think it was just the people who watched the originals who didn't like the two films. I know there were a lot of new audience members who didn't, either. One of the things Akira is going to have to overcome is being based on one of the cornerstone anime works. Expectations are going to be high and I doubt the filmmakers will be able to live up to the original in many people's eyes. I'm an old Dark Shadows fan. I enjoyed the movie. So many others freaked, but I could see it as a fan rushing home after school to watch it making that movie. The show dealt with different times & even parallel worlds. Burton's movie could easily have been behind one of the doors in the West Wing. I enjoyed the female Ghostbusters If it's so sacred I can't stand a remake, I just won't watch it. Actually, it's songs for me. My first reaction to a cover is usually hate. I need to hear it a dozen times before I warm up to it. But everyone has the right to remake whatever they want. It might suck but it might work |
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Post by Marv on Mar 31, 2017 13:07:03 GMT
i'm guessing you don't want a live action akira? So what the last GOOD Japanese anime-to-America live-action film adaptation you saw? I recall Speed Racer and Dragonball: Evolution both sucking and flopping. Watched Ghost in the Shell Wednesday night. It was very enjoyable. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 18:33:26 GMT
So what the last GOOD Japanese anime-to-America live-action film adaptation you saw? I recall Speed Racer and Dragonball: Evolution both sucking and flopping. Watched Ghost in the Shell Wednesday night. It was very enjoyable. Really? I might need to check that out, then. I had written that one off. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 19:07:27 GMT
Ghost in the Shell is down to 45% on Rotten Tomatoes, imo that's too high.
I hated the movie and walked out of the theater. Horrible movie, completely leaving out anything interesting.
Still, that's just my opinon.
So far, I haven't seen a single good Western movie based on a manga/anime. I've seen good Japanese ones. (to be fair, not that many either.) 20th Century Boy trilogy was very enjoyable, and definitely the first part was very good.
But Western made? Not a single one.
Akira in one movie is not going to work. The manga itself is lengthy, to say the least. The movie was fun, but really only showed a small part of the total storyline.
I'ld say make a series out of the manga. A season per volume, it might work out better. Or, and this might be preferable: don't do it.
Try something original for a change.
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