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Post by petrolino on Dec 27, 2018 0:44:33 GMT
This year has seen Marlon Brando's one picture as director, the western 'One-Eyed Jacks', selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress. It's long been heralded by film directors as a neglected classic and I've read it has a strange history. I don't know if this is true or not, but I've read that Rod Serling wrote the original treatment before Marlon Brando was secured to star. Brando later had conflicts with Calder Willingham and Sam Peckinpah who were hired to rewrite Serling's script. Original director Stanley Kubrick was pushed out of the project and Brando took over.
It's not a movie I enjoy all that much. I find it very long and disengaging.
Do you like 'One-Eyed Jacks'?
'Twin Peaks'
Thanks!
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Post by london777 on Dec 27, 2018 3:02:07 GMT
It's not a movie I enjoy all that much. I find it very long and disengaging.
Do you like 'One-Eyed Jacks'?
No, not much, but it is worth a watch. But I am the guy who does not like westerns, so I probably disliked it for the ways in which it most resembles a typical western and stuck with it for the ways it did not. |
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Post by petrolino on Dec 27, 2018 3:06:20 GMT
It's not a movie I enjoy all that much. I find it very long and disengaging.
Do you like 'One-Eyed Jacks'?
No, not much, but it is worth a watch. But I am the guy who does not like westerns, so I probably disliked it for the ways in which it most resembles a typical western and stuck with it for the ways it did not.
Hello london. I think you might enjoy Anthony Harvey's western 'Eagle's Wing' (1979). It won the British Society of Cinematographers Best Cinematography Award for 1979 and the Yorkshire Post award for achievements in film photography.
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Post by OldAussie on Dec 27, 2018 4:47:09 GMT
I'm a fan.
Nearly every character is horrible - Ben Johnson and Slim Pickens for example made a number of movies together but surely neither was ever as despicable as they are here.
I'm pretty sure some Peckinpah dialogue survived in the final script - there are moments that sound so much like him.
One of the very few westerns to feature glorious shots of the Pacific Ocean.
Brando is the coolest he ever was.
And to top it off, it has my favourite Karl Malden performance.
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Dec 27, 2018 4:52:39 GMT
I think it's a mess >
Flashes of greatness standing out in chopped messy Western.
Warning: Spoilers
I was never that smitten with this film many years ago on my first viewing, but now, with the advent of time, I like to think I view films with newer and wiser perspectives. Sadly I can't say that One- Eyed Jacks has left me anything other than frustrated and cold with disappointment.
Marlon Brando took over directing duties from Stanley Kubrick after the two giants fell out about the direction the picture was taking, this let Brando loose to shoot for 6 months on a film meant to be wrapped in two. Now this may be the main problem to me because the film is painfully devoid of major fleshing out of the characters, scenes are not expanded and there are obvious gaps due to mass editing cuts. It reads on the screen that our protagonist gets sentenced to 5 years in jail, two seconds later we see a bearded haggard man escaping prison chained to another inmate, next shot he is clean shaved and it seems we have missed some important chat between the two escapists. On it goes throughout the picture, I'm sure that the final elongated cut (rumoured to be between 4 & 6 hours) would have been a joyous experience, but as it is we get a cut down 141 minutes of film that rather outstays it's welcome. And to get through it you really need to believe in patience being a virtue.
Brando of course holds court and is never less than interesting, and at times he sizzles and dominates the screen in the way that Marlon was want to do. But the whole performance has the reek of over indulgence about it. Making it more about the actor than the actual narrative. Along side him, Karl Malden is solid and gruff as the villain of the piece, but Katy Jurado is badly underused and seems like an afterthought to be an important character. Sadly, too, Pina Pellicer struggles to convince in her only American film, but naturally that is not important in the context that she was to take her own life at the woefully young age of 29 (depending on what site you believe as regards age at death). The bright spot here is the cinematography from Charles Lang Jr at the various sites in California, it is simply gorgeous, check out the coastline shots and take it all in. I personally feel that this film is one that Brando fans choose to ignore the major flaws with. His name some how making the end product seem better than it actually is. In its longest form I'm sure it "could have been a contender" in the great Western stakes, as it is it remains average and something of an unfulfilling disappointment. 5/10
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Dec 27, 2018 5:28:01 GMT
not a big fan of the movie. i read in BRANDO's biography that him and KUBRICK fell out over the casting of SPENCER TRACY. but brando wanted KARL MALDEN in the same role.
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Post by petrolino on Dec 27, 2018 5:30:33 GMT
not a big fan of the movie. i read in BRANDO's biography that him and KUBRICK fell out over the casting of SPENCER TRACY. but brando wanted KARL MALDEN in the same role. Karl Malden holds the same expression in deference to the big man. Spencer Tracy would have knocked him into next week. I noticed at least 20 minutes of camera holds on Brando's face, surely at the director's instruction. Vanity job? |
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Dec 27, 2018 5:34:36 GMT
not a big fan of the movie. i read in BRANDO's biography that him and KUBRICK fell out over the casting of SPENCER TRACY. but brando wanted KARL MALDEN in the same role. Karl Malden holds the same expression in deference to the big man. Spencer Tracy would have knocked him into next week. I noticed at least 20 minutes of camera holds on Brando's face, surely at the director's instruction. Vanity job? lol, there are a lot of closeups of BRANDO's face if memory serves me right. i think BRANDO had an affair with PINA PELLICER and left her suicidal. |
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Post by petrolino on Dec 27, 2018 5:36:42 GMT
Karl Malden holds the same expression in deference to the big man. Spencer Tracy would have knocked him into next week. I noticed at least 20 minutes of camera holds on Brando's face, surely at the director's instruction. Vanity job? lol, there are a lot of closeups of BRANDO's face if memory serves me right. i think BRANDO had an affair with PINA PELLICER and left her suicidal. He understood the star factor. |
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