Post by egon1982 on Dec 30, 2018 13:09:28 GMT
Someone did said.
"You have to let the new generation have their heroes! you can't expect young people of today to give a damn about Predator 2 or Blade when it comes to black hero films, most things in pop culture don't stand the test of time with younger generations".
This kind of argument is exactly why the quality of films is getting worse every year. This person is entitled to their opinion but that doesn't mean that I have to agree with it. I am not mad at this person either.
It's the particular viewpoint that frustrates me. In fact, I personally feel that it represents the worst viewpoint possible when it comes to film criticism or film in general. And I stand by that. And it isn't entirely his fault that he thinks this way. It is a common viewpoint among a large majority of the younger generation.
No. We should expect the current generation to respect and at least appreciate elder cinema. That doesn't mean that they have to like films like Predator 2 or Blade. But they should at least acknowledge them for their accomplishments. And that is not too much to ask either. And it isn't taking away their "heroes"
They can love Black Panther all they want to and I have no issue with that at all. They can have him and the film. And they can have Blade or Predator 2 too if they wish. Or not if they choose to do that as well.
But they should take a look at those that came before Black Panther and tip their hats to them. Not ignore them entirely. Am I really asking too much here? I don't think I am. I really don't.
Good God! I swear I feel like I need to beat some respect into some people..especially when it comes to older cinema. Just because it's older doesn't give you the right to rag on it. Especially for it's special effects of all things..
These are real comments from a real person on IMDB regarding the original RoboCop.
"so everyone was saying to watch the original but it was so bad! The effects are so choppy and unrealistic. this one is way better! Like i can't believe people fell for those effects back then.."
First off, I have to say it..This guy or gal or whatever the fuck is a FUCKING MORON!
I am all for having a different opinion. If you don't like a film cool. But to think like this? Fuck no. It's unacceptable to me to be this fucking stupid. If there is one person that thinks like this there are most definitely more. And the majority of them are fucking kids and tweens. What the fuck happened to kids braincells lately? I mean this isn't even a valid criticism.
Sure the effects don't look like CGI eye candy. It also didn't have a 100 million dollar budget either. I honestly think the effects for RoboCop looked fantastic for their time and still do. Key word..For their time!
Bitching about how the effects were "choppy and unrealistic" in a film from the 80's is fucking insane. People fell for the effects back then you fucktard because that was some top of the line special effects back then. It may not be now. But for back then it was spectacular. And people bought it. Get a fucking clue kid. Seriously. Does he criticize the Wizard Of Oz's effects like this too? I don't dislike the 50's Blob because the effects suck. I dislike it because it wasn't my cup of tea and I personally found it boring. That's a valid criticism. If I was a braindead fuckhead from mars like this doofus I would condemn the film because it's effects weren't realistic enough. Which would be fucking stupid since it's a film from the 1950's!
Here's more quotes from this idiot to raise your blood pressure...
"but it was clearly choppy and looked like crap. people that grew up with the original and see this one. their minds will be blown! therefore, this one is better.
remakes ALWAYS outcast originals due to better effects."
That last quote made my blood boil. It really did. The Fly has some great effects, but it is also a new take on the original story and is able to stand on it's own merits as a great movie. This argument of "Remakes ALWAYS outcast originals due to better effects." Is flawed at best, and fucking retarded at worst! And the people that grew up with the original will have their minds blown? Yeah after I put a bullet through my brain to ease the pain of how shitty the Robocop remake is.
As for realistic effects? How the fuck is it possible now for CGI to be considered more realistic than practical effects? Tell me how? Because I can't for the life of me see how this is fucking possible.
Here's even more from this buckethead. This is a reply to a comment I left on IMDB in 2014 telling him about what he expected from the 1987 film. I even brought up Gravity in the conversation, as the film that he might have expected the effects to look like..
"no but when they make a remake it is always better than the original due to the better effects. and plus gravity was boring."
It's bad enough he said that stupid shit about remakes always being better than the original due to better effects once..but he did it again. And Gravity is boring? I understand some people feel the same way..but I can and will never understand how anyone could find that film boring. I was on the edge of my seat during the whole film. Boring my ass. I'd like to bore a head through this moron's head with a magic psychic jackhammer. Maybe it might make him a little bit smarter in the process. Let all the air out.
The internet is a resource for learning as well as it is for candy crush. Use it to do some fucking research and learn about cinema and the history of special effects before you start talking out of your ass. Educate yourself, kids of modern day America. Because us adults? We don't want to continue to see you embarrass yourself in front of the entire internet anymore. It's for your own good.
If this type of thinking spreads to later generations, film and the quality of it will be degraded. After people like me and others like me who share my sentiments pass away, all that will be left will be these same fucking kids, grown up who were never taught to appreciate or to respect elder cinema. And if this does get too out of hand? The classics we hold near and dear will be forgotten and disrespected for years to come. For stupid reasons like the effects weren't realistic enough. This is not ok. It's a scary thought, and a bad omen for the future of cinema. I know if I have any kids they will learn to respect and understand how to properly critique cinema. I don't want to see a future where classics like the original RoboCop are only in topics of conversation as that old cheesy movie from the 80's, and the 2014 film will be held in high regard. I shudder at the thought.
Please take heed to my warning. Otherwise kids of the future won't even know what Citizen Kane is. Or The Godfather or Back to the Future, or be able to understand why they were so beloved in the first place. So continue to speak your mind my friends, and call out these morons on their ridiculously off base opinions. They may not respect or understand what your attempts are to help, but if that is the case they're hopeless anyway, and are too far gone to be saved.
If I had one word for kids today regarding the realm of cinema, it would be as follows...
Please, try to put things into perspective, do your research and respect your elder cinema. If you don't, you look like a total idiot to all the adults around you, and to some of your fellow peers.
Why in the holy hell should I respect this guy's opinion? It doesn't make any sense. If he had any valid criticisms of the orginal film. Fine, I could understand. But this crap about the effects sucking is not a valid one. No excuses. I also lived through the CGI era as well. And I know kids that at least have an understanding of the limitaitons film had in terms of effects back in the days before CGI. Condemmning an older film because it's effects don't look realistic or as good as today's is asinine and stupid. And kids like this need to go find a wikipedia article or read a god damn book about the history of hollywood and special effects. Because this isn't one of those instances where it's what we are brought up on comes in to play..and least in my opinion. No excuses for refusing or not knowing the history of film. This is like if the same person saw a silent film like A Trip To The Moon and bitched how the acting sucked, it has no sound, and it looks crappy compared to the effects of today. It's the same ridiculous argument and there should be no excuses or support given to this kind of inanity.
