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Post by telegonus on Apr 1, 2017 10:01:29 GMT
Anyone have any thoughts on Danny Thomas, or rather his show, his sitcom? It enjoyed a very long eleven year run, had high ratings, seem much liked, even loved at the time, and yet seems, well, not forgotten but not so fondly remembered as the various Lucille Ball shows, Dick Van Dyke's first show, Andry Griffith's show of the Sixties, or even Leave It To Beaver.
Danny's show was good, solid family entertainment, somewhat limited by its urban setting, unusual for a family type show, especially after 1960. Yet it made Danny Thomas a household name and a major mover and shaker in Hollywood. His charity work for St. Jude's Children's Hospital may be (I think it's fair to say is) his greatest legacy.
My take is that the Danny Thomas series now looks old-fashioned. It's family values orientation and even its moments of old world ethnic warmth are no longer in fashion; not disliked, just not popular, the way, say, MASH still is, as well as Mary Tyler Moore's show, The Odd Couple or the Brady and Partridge series.
Have I answered my own question or is there more to add? I think this is a topic worth discussing, for a while anyway, since the Thomas show was well written, a solid piece of work of a TV series, so it's not like it looks tacky, or plays as corny or goofy. Ramar Of The Jungle or I Married Joan it ain't. FWIW: I like Danny Thomas, find him likable and real. He had his flaws, his bluster, his need to play (if not always be) the alpha male of his home, yet there was an endearing kindness to the man. It saddens me that he seems semi-forgotten.
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Post by geode on Apr 1, 2017 13:12:50 GMT
Anyone have any thoughts on Danny Thomas, or rather his show, his sitcom? It enjoyed a very long eleven year run, had high ratings, seem much liked, even loved at the time, and yet seems, well, not forgotten but not so fondly remembered as the various Lucille Ball shows, Dick Van Dyke's first show, Andry Griffith's show of the Sixties, or even Leave It To Beaver. Danny's show was good, solid family entertainment, somewhat limited by its urban setting, unusual for a family type show, especially after 1960. Yet it made Danny Thomas a household name and a major mover and shaker in Hollywood. His charity work for St. Jude's Children's Hospital may be (I think it's fair to say is) his greatest legacy. My take is that the Danny Thomas series now looks old-fashioned. It's family values orientation and even its moments of old world ethnic warmth are no longer in fashion; not disliked, just not popular, the way, say, MASH still is, as well as Mary Tyler Moore's show, The Odd Couple or the Brady and Partridge series. Have I answered my own question or is there more to add? I think this is a topic worth discussing, for a while anyway, since the Thomas show was well written, a solid piece of work of a TV series, so it's not like it looks tacky, or plays as corny or goofy. Ramar Of The Jungle or I Married Joan it ain't. FWIW: I like Danny Thomas, find him likable and real. He had his flaws, his bluster, his need to play (if not always be) the alpha male of his home, yet there was an endearing kindness to the man. It saddens me that he seems semi-forgotten. I have wondered for years why "Make Room For Daddy" is not better remembered. You have detailed out some of its merits. I grew up watching it and still remember if fondly. The last time I looked into it only one season was available on DVD, when Marjorie Lord and Angela Cartright were introduced. I guess it didn't sell well enough to prompt issuing other seasons. I bought several episodes on 16mm a few years ago, including some with Jean Hagen. I still remember the episode that served as a pilot for "The Andy Griffith Show" from when it first aired. It is included as a bonus in the DVD set.
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Post by mikef6 on Apr 1, 2017 15:03:50 GMT
I, too (along with my family - 'rents, sister), always watched "Make Room For Daddy" and I remember it much as you do, as a warm family comedy with fun "ethnic" humor and behind-the-scenes show business satire. But a few years ago, I watched a program streaming on-line (I think it was a Netflix production) that offered sample episodes from different '50s sit-coms (Our Miss Brooks and Life Of Riley, included). There were two MRFD episodes. Maybe it was just the two selections, but, seeing this show from quite a distance in time, Thomas seemed rather gruff and controlling with his TV family. I don't think I laughed or even smiled once which is surprising considering the nostalgic feelings and memories that should have predisposed me favorably.
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Post by camimac on Apr 1, 2017 16:00:36 GMT
I have a lot of respect for Danny Thomas he founded St. Jude's children research hospital. Now, about his TV show, Make Room for Daddy. I never really watched it but I know the first episode of The Andy Griffith Show was debuted on his show -- or the cast from his show appeared in the first episode. TAGS definitely makes my list of best television shows ever.
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Post by Lynx on Apr 1, 2017 16:36:15 GMT
If I'm correct, his show never transitioned into color. Many of the shows, like Andy Griffith, again, if I'm correct, started off B&W but transitioned to color at some point, the same with Lucy's shows. Danny's was B&W all the way through. Many people have some sort of aversion to B&W shows and movies, I have no idea as to why that is, but they do. It's a shame, there were a lot of treasures there, and Danny Thomas was one of them.
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Post by telegonus on Apr 1, 2017 18:06:22 GMT
I, too (along with my family - 'rents, sister), always watched "Make Room For Daddy" and I remember it much as you do, as a warm family comedy with fun "ethnic" humor and behind-the-scenes show business satire. But a few years ago, I watched a program streaming on-line (I think it was a Netflix production) that offered sample episodes from different '50s sit-coms (Our Miss Brooks and Life Of Riley, included). There were two MRFD episodes. Maybe it was just the two selections, but, seeing this show from quite a distance in time, Thomas seemed rather gruff and controlling with his TV family. I don't think I laughed or even smiled once which is surprising considering the nostalgic feelings and memories that should have predisposed me favorably. Yeah. There has to be a reason, Mike, though that the series was all black and white episodes hurts it (yet Van Dyke's show still has fans, as do the Addams and Munster shows and Gilligan for its first season or two, not to mention such outre non-comedy offerings as The Twilight Zone). Danny was, as Steve Allen once commented, not humble in his comedy. I wouldn't call him arrogant,--not even in your face--he's just an old-fashioned male of a certain generation. The same could be said for Archie Bunker, but that was the point of All In The Family. I think that the classic and beloved status of certain TV shows and their holding up to the test of time (or not) is a bit of a mystery. Even something like the big syndication hit The Big Valley, also popular in its day but not at the same level, is somewhat puzzling when compared to the more popular, in the same era The Virginian not being so big a syndication hit. Hazel is a near forgotten sitcom that run around the same period as Van Dyke's show and dang near nobody talks about it, much less watches it in reruns. Gilligan's Island was somewhat of a cult kid show in its day, and that makes its enduring popularity more understandable. Oddly, though, McHale's Navy, a bigger success,--and it spawned two movies--seems to have less of a fan base. Go figure. Black and white may be a factor here as well. To return to Danny Thomas: his gruffness and controlling nature, which was part of its charm back in the day, is now non-p.c. even as the show itself isn't. Also, there's something about Danny's "pious air", especially when he knows he's wrong, that (if you'll pardon the expression) reeks of pre-Vatican II America: he lowers his voice, alters its tone, sounds like he's in Confession. This is totally alien to younger viewers, and a distant memory to Boomers who remember those days. There's an episode of Naked City of the same period, about an aging Italian immigrant with a young, bodacious wife, played by the gorgeous Marisa Pavan, who wants an annulment, which the parish priest won't allow. It's heartbreaking to watch, yet at the end she and her damn near ancient hubby stay together, and as the narrative makes clear, it's a Good Thing, the Right Thing. Yet watching it I could almost have wept for her and her fate. Maybe there's something similar, albeit less tragic, with Danny, as in "why doesn't someone put this guy in his place?".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 19:18:25 GMT
I remember enjoying Make Room for Daddy on Nick at Nite in the 90s.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 2, 2017 5:21:48 GMT
I never liked "Make Room For Daddy". My folks liked to watch it but I usually would leave when it was on and go read a book or do some other frivolous activity.
Did not care much for Danny Thomas but it was the awful kids who played Rusty and Linda that were the nails in the coffin. They always smirked after each of their lines as if saying "see, I'm a great actor cuz I didn't blow my line, Ain't I cuuuuuute ?" Ok it's silly BUT the kids never got dirty or even mussed and Linda always wore those frilly party type dresses .. every day ... no matter what she was doing. I did not care for the ethnic remarks or his bullying.
Admire what Thomas did for St. Judes but he seemed to be bragging about it at every opportunity. Sorry about the rant.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 10, 2017 0:02:18 GMT
WNEW channel 5 in New York used to show the reruns in the 70's and 80's. I loved it along with I Love Lucy and The Andy Griffith Show and many others. I don't know why it is not as popular today as those others. It was extremely popular when it first aired.
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Post by sagenesse on Apr 12, 2017 0:56:09 GMT
I use to watch it when it aired on Nick At Nite in the 80s. I enjoyed it.
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Post by divtal on May 12, 2017 17:08:52 GMT
I used to think that Thomas had 2 separate family-oriented sitcoms. But, I now see (through IMDb) that the years when his character, Danny Williams, was married to Marjorie Lord, actually grew from the early 50's, when he was married to Jean Hagen ('53-'56).
Hagen left the show - I think in a salary dispute - in '56. Thomas played a widower for a year, before he "re-married," bringing Lord into the mix.
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Post by Jayman on May 16, 2017 0:59:52 GMT
It was a good show. The kid Rusty was a rotten kid though
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Post by telegonus on May 19, 2017 7:34:03 GMT
I agree about Rusty. Never liked him. Sam with little Richie on the original Dick Van Dyke series. He damn near killed every scene he was in. You just wanted to shoot him. No charm.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on May 30, 2017 5:39:40 GMT
I was born in 1950, and Danny Thomas was a must-see as I was growing up.
Watching re-runs, I only liked the ones with Uncle Tonoose. Danny often liked to work a song into the show, which I found boring.
Sherry Jackson certainly became a beautiful and sexy woman.
Two stories about Danny, one funny, one strange.
Buddy Hackett, Sheckey Green and other Jewish comedians picketed Danny's home during the 7 Days War. That's the funny story.
It is rumored that Danny enjoyed 'plate sex'. Look it up.
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