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Post by barcode on Apr 1, 2017 15:37:34 GMT
Does anyone has idea about what was happening in the Knightmare sequence and how it is/or will be linked to Justice League?
- Was Bruce having just a dream (with Flash warning)
- Is Superman going/went rogue in future
- How Louis will be/was the key
- The Superman that stabbed Bruce was the one who is going to comeback from dead
- Is the future already changed now due to Flash warning to Bruce
I still don't get the Knightmare sequence at all even with all Justice league plot details we now have.
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Post by barcode on Apr 1, 2017 15:43:21 GMT
It is possible the Flash prevented the events in the Knightmare sequence by going back?
When BVS was released I thought it can be a foreshadowing, and this would easily set up an Injustice movie of sorts, where Superman is brainwashed by Darkseid. But now with Justice League plot emerging this does not seems to be the case.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 1, 2017 16:31:17 GMT
It is possible the Flash prevented the events in the Knightmare sequence by going back? When BVS was released I thought it can be a foreshadowing, and this would easily set up an Injustice movie of sorts, where Superman is brainwashed by Darkseid. But now with Justice League plot emerging this does not seems to be the case. I remember that being suggested upon its release too. If we were in phase two or whatever, fine. But like everything else they throw it in too fast. |
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Post by brownstones on Apr 1, 2017 16:47:29 GMT
well it's possible that midway through JL everything goes to shit and then the flash has to go back in time. but that feels excessive, what is also possible is that it will be brought into a Flash standalone film or a JL2, like Flashpoint storyline.....but with more Mad Max.
best guess is that they'll either allude to it or discuss it in JL (between barry and bruce) or pretend it never happened.
regarding lois, I think the idea is that she is an anchor to humanity for clark.....granted it should be a tad more intrinsic, but lois works well enough as a physical manifestation.
now I do think flash altered the timeline when he went back too soon, perhaps bruce and clark never made up or became allies, and something happened to lois, leading to an incomplete JL (perhaps just Bruce, Barry and Diana) with an even more isolated superman.
edit: personally I think it's a bitchn' sequence, but doesn't really fit within the narrative of the film. I'm guessing that it was added a bit later, yes.....probably decided by zack, but because the film is kind of "light" on action so Snyder and the producers were probably thinking there should be another action beat. the other issue with it is that it just kind of tosses people into a deep end, "look an omega symbol, flying man-locus, evil superman, time travel, issss that the flash?"
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Post by barcode on Apr 1, 2017 17:50:06 GMT
It is possible the Flash prevented the events in the Knightmare sequence by going back? When BVS was released I thought it can be a foreshadowing, and this would easily set up an Injustice movie of sorts, where Superman is brainwashed by Darkseid. But now with Justice League plot emerging this does not seems to be the case. I remember that being suggested upon its release too. If we were in phase two or whatever, fine. But like everything else they throw it in too fast. I agree. The scene setting had lot of potential but it ended up confusing everyone. |
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Post by barcode on Apr 1, 2017 17:55:32 GMT
well it's possible that midway through JL everything goes to shit and then the flash has to go back in time. but that feels excessive, what is also possible is that it will be brought into a Flash standalone film or a JL2, like Flashpoint storyline.....but with more Mad Max. best guess is that they'll either allude to it or discuss it in JL (between barry and bruce) or pretend it never happened. regarding lois, I think the idea is that she is an anchor to humanity for clark.....granted it should be a tad more intrinsic, but lois works well enough as a physical manifestation. now I do think flash altered the timeline when he went back too soon, perhaps bruce and clark never made up or became allies, and something happened to lois, leading to an incomplete JL (perhaps just Bruce, Barry and Diana) with an even more isolated superman. edit: personally I think it's a bitchn' sequence, but doesn't really fit within the narrative of the film. I'm guessing that it was added a bit later, yes.....probably decided by zack, but because the film is kind of "light" on action so Snyder and the producers were probably thinking there should be another action beat. the other issue with it is that it just kind of tosses people into a deep end, "look an omega symbol, flying man-locus, evil superman, time travel, issss that the flash?" I think this will only get mentioned in JL or not at all in future. Reason is that parademons are big common factor between the scene and JL and any explanation (if they really have any)should get addressed in the coming movie itself. |
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Post by chatterer on Apr 2, 2017 0:39:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 5:29:03 GMT
I think we caught a glimpse of the future and Flash altered the timeline by alerting Bruce. It accomplished a few things directly related to BvS:
1. Gave us a taste of the coming Apokoliptian threat
2. "Verified" Batman's concerns about Superman
3. Let us know how important Lois is to Superman
As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't need to be followed up on (beyond maybe Bruce mentioning it to Barry).
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Post by chatterer on Apr 3, 2017 13:11:59 GMT
I think we caught a glimpse of the future and Flash altered the timeline by alerting Bruce. It accomplished a few things directly related to BvS: 1. Gave us a taste of the coming Apokoliptian threat 2. "Verified" Batman's concerns about Superman 3. Let us know how important Lois is to Superman As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't need to be followed up on (beyond maybe Bruce mentioning it to Barry). Yeah I think Bruce will. Bruce Wayne: So you're fast. Barry Allen: That feels like an oversimplification. I expect Bruce to tell him of the knightmare and his message. Barry will then probably get technical and explain what exactly is possible regarding the speed force. |
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Post by Larcen26 on Apr 3, 2017 14:51:03 GMT
I think the Flash vision was real, but the "Knightmare" was a potential future.
My hope before seeing the film was that this was a vision Wonder Woman had (Oracle of Dephi maybe?) of what the world would become if Superman and Batman became enemies. Thereby giving her a reason to become involved.
But that didn't happen unfortunately.
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