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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jan 22, 2019 2:49:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 12:01:27 GMT
Here's how the levitation is done.
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Post by rizdek on Jan 22, 2019 19:28:08 GMT
Oh, and actually it's kind of obvious how that guy is changing his mask. Notice that he's wearing rather large headwear, and every single change is accompanied by a jerk of his head? He's flipping the masks onto and off his face with those jerks. The skill is in doing so at such a speed that ordinary cameras can't catch it because they don't have a high enough frame-rate. Put a high speed camera on him and it would be very obvious what he's doing. In no way was I convinced that the tricks in that video were anything but sleight of hand. I've personally seen and experienced the incredible deftness of someone who's really skilled...they can do things the eye can't follow and I'm sure it was NOT magic in the sense of some supernatural influence. Frankly, I'd say their skill is far more impressive than if they were just tapping into some other unknown force with their mind. That would almost be disappointing.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 22, 2019 20:03:04 GMT
Oh, and actually it's kind of obvious how that guy is changing his mask. Notice that he's wearing rather large headwear, and every single change is accompanied by a jerk of his head? He's flipping the masks onto and off his face with those jerks. The skill is in doing so at such a speed that ordinary cameras can't catch it because they don't have a high enough frame-rate. Put a high speed camera on him and it would be very obvious what he's doing. In no way was I convinced that the tricks in that video were anything but sleight of hand. I've personally seen and experienced the incredible deftness of someone who's really skilled...they can do things the eye can't follow and I'm sure it was NOT magic in the sense of some supernatural influence. Frankly, I'd say their skill is far more impressive than if they were just tapping into some other unknown force with their mind. That would almost be disappointing. Some of what is shown in the video is explainable. I wasn't convinced by the magician who separated himself in half or the one who appeared to remove his own head. These could have been accomplished with specialized clothing. Now, if he had taken off his head and held it at arm's length, I would have been impressed.
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Post by rizdek on Jan 22, 2019 21:00:25 GMT
In no way was I convinced that the tricks in that video were anything but sleight of hand. I've personally seen and experienced the incredible deftness of someone who's really skilled...they can do things the eye can't follow and I'm sure it was NOT magic in the sense of some supernatural influence. Frankly, I'd say their skill is far more impressive than if they were just tapping into some other unknown force with their mind. That would almost be disappointing. Some of what is shown in the video is explainable. I wasn't convinced by the magician who separated himself in half or the one who appeared to remove his own head. These could have been accomplished with specialized clothing. Now, if he had taken off his head and held it at arm's length, I would have been impressed. Or let someone else carry it away while others were exploring the various severed arteries and nerves sticking out of his bloody neck.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 22, 2019 21:24:30 GMT
Magic has been around for a long time. It works. If it didn't work people wouldn't still be doing it after thousands of years This is just the Argument from Popularity, which is a fallacy. Astrology has been around just as long, too.
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Post by faustus5 on Jan 22, 2019 21:26:27 GMT
This is just the Argument from Popularity, which is a fallacy. Astrology has been around just as long, too. That hick probably believes in astrology, too, so this argument will carry little weight with him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 22:25:08 GMT
I've been to Magic Kingdom. So I know it's real. If you worked there you would say differently.
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 22, 2019 23:01:45 GMT
Fastus 5
You are still wrong, dolt.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 23, 2019 10:15:02 GMT
Magic has been around for a long time. It works. If it didn't work people wouldn't still be doing it after thousands of years This is just the Argument from Popularity, which is a fallacy. Astrology has been around just as long, too. And astrology works too. It's not an exact science but it works well enough that it hasn't been dispensed with.
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 23, 2019 12:22:02 GMT
I believe in Magic the Gathering.
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Post by goz on Jan 23, 2019 20:40:13 GMT
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 23, 2019 21:40:14 GMT
Its working must be why identical twins always have the same future. Oh wait.. It's not a science at all. And arguing for validity of astrology from the fact that it 'has not been dispensed with' is just the aforementioned Argument from Popularity, in another guise.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 24, 2019 9:48:52 GMT
Its working must be why identical twins always have the same future. Oh wait.. It's not a science at all. And arguing for validity of astrology from the fact that it 'has not been dispensed with' is just the aforementioned Argument from Popularity, in another guise. Identical twins don't come down the birth canal at the same time, nor are they truly identical.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 24, 2019 19:49:19 GMT
Its working must be why identical twins always have the same future. Oh wait.. It's not a science at all. And arguing for validity of astrology from the fact that it 'has not been dispensed with' is just the aforementioned Argument from Popularity, in another guise. Identical twins don't come down the birth canal at the same time, nor are they truly identical. When delivered by caesarian, as twins can be due to likelihood of complications with multiple births, this objection is moot. And it is not the genetic make up of the individual that astrology is concerned with but the alignment of the planets when born which has the greatest supposed influence. Even though, er, several planets were unknown when the 'science' first originated.
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 24, 2019 19:56:59 GMT
There is no caution about it as God forbids it, period. any of that occult type of stuff is strictly forbidden. because any kind of 'magic', it's source is guaranteed to be from hell. basically that divination/magic/sorcery etc is forbidden for our own sake. or put it this way... either nothing will happen, or something bad will happen. nothing good will come from messing with occult type of stuff. basically people just potentially open themselves up to the demonic by screwing with with that type of stuff.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jan 24, 2019 20:02:23 GMT
There is no caution about it as God forbids it, period. any of that occult type of stuff is strictly forbidden. because any kind of 'magic', it's source is guaranteed to be from hell. basically that divination/magic/sorcery etc is forbidden for our own sake. or put it this way... either nothing will happen, or something bad will happen. nothing good will come from messing with occult type of stuff. basically people just potentially open themselves up to the demonic by screwing with with that type of stuff.
I have something of a talent for understatement.
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Post by puvo on Jan 24, 2019 22:30:15 GMT
This is some classic erjen. Love it.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jan 24, 2019 23:00:10 GMT
Its working must be why identical twins always have the same future. Oh wait.. It's not a science at all. And arguing for validity of astrology from the fact that it 'has not been dispensed with' is just the aforementioned Argument from Popularity, in another guise. I agree that astrology is not a science, but I suspect most people who bother with it are aware that it is not a science. It is an art, if not the most reputable one.
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