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Post by summers8 on Jan 22, 2019 10:04:03 GMT
www.screengeek.net/2019/01/08/x-men-mcu-wolverine-rumor/So what do we have here? Well it will make the most sense for mcu xmen to just use the same formula they did with homecoming. which is ironic after the beatings the movie got from logan in 2017. also what does that mean for the content of mcu xmen. I am guessing more batman and robin and TDK. we know homecoming and antman are considered to be the most useless childish mcu movies even for the already childish standard of gotg and avengers.we also know homecoming has now been exposed for the useless spiderman movie it was thanks to into the spiderverse. seriously how will mcu explain this? that their own xmen a series with logan, dofp and X2 is now on the same low lane as homecoming? Homecoming is the movie spiderman could not punch people? wow, talkless of handling many of the hard social and political themes of xmen that used to make formershamd so angry he started insulting blacks and jews. yikes. this is bad for mcu xmen. xmen:homecoming? What is stopping MCU XMEN from getting inspired by....let see. Batman Begins. afterall first class used that inspiration and did it justice.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 22, 2019 10:49:05 GMT
also the article says wolverine might not be in the movies because he is a gritty character? he may be getting the punisher and daredevil treatment.
um.....mcu.
this was pg 13 xmen.
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Post by scabab on Jan 22, 2019 14:14:21 GMT
So they made an article based on what someone on Reddit said who "can’t even spell Kevin Feige right".
Right...
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Post by summers8 on Jan 22, 2019 14:59:49 GMT
So they made an article based on what someone on Reddit said who "can’t even spell Kevin Feige right". Right... Still the homecoming route will make sense for mcu xmen and the disney way of film making. its what the mcu formula is about. only it will get even more trashed than homecoming.
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Post by scabab on Jan 22, 2019 16:15:29 GMT
Ok. You're still getting upset about something that won't be a thing for years.
I suppose if they do go that route, at least it'll be successful again.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 22, 2019 16:35:26 GMT
Ok. You're still getting upset about something that won't be a thing for years.I suppose if they do go that route, at least it'll be successful again. Just adding extra stress he doesn't need. Lawyers already suffer enough stress or so I read. |
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Post by summers8 on Jan 22, 2019 17:58:53 GMT
Ok. You're still getting upset about something that won't be a thing for years. I suppose if they do go that route, at least it'll be successful again. it depends on how you define success. homecoming was a failure to spiderman fans. you scabab even admitted it was one of the most childish comic films you had seen.
the success could be like star wars. faux. the reason why spiderman and star wars fans dont find the disney movies a true success is because they had superior movies. xmen fans will come to those same conclusions
xmen homecoming is an artistic failure in the making. Logan is R but how do yo go from DOFP to homecoming? the fall is huge.We knew even an xmen movie like black panther or civil war will still be a big disappointment but homecoming inspired movie is a big fail on all levels
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Post by scabab on Jan 22, 2019 22:49:10 GMT
it depends on how you define success. homecoming was a failure to spiderman fans. you scabab even admitted it was one of the most childish comic films you had seen. I never said that at all. I said I liked the movie, it was definitely better than both The Amazing Spider-man movies I just don't think it was as good as the first two Spider-Man movies. I wouldn't agree but most seem to think Homecoming is the best or second best Spider-Man movie of the lot. They already went from Days of Future Past to Apocalypse, that fall was huge. It's just a rumour by some random guy on Reddit, there's nothing to say it will be anything like Homecoming. People always "leak" stuff that ends up being nonsense. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jan 23, 2019 0:46:52 GMT
It's just a rumour by some random guy on Reddit, there's nothing to say it will be anything like Homecoming. People always "leak" stuff that ends up being nonsense. I think he just wants the attention. |
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Post by summers8 on Jan 23, 2019 12:06:27 GMT
it depends on how you define success. homecoming was a failure to spiderman fans. you scabab even admitted it was one of the most childish comic films you had seen. I never said that at all. I said I liked the movie, it was definitely better than both The Amazing Spider-man movies I just don't think it was as good as the first two Spider-Man movies. I wouldn't agree but most seem to think Homecoming is the best or second best Spider-Man movie of the lot. They already went from Days of Future Past to Apocalypse, that fall was huge. It's just a rumour by some random guy on Reddit, there's nothing to say it will be anything like Homecoming. People always "leak" stuff that ends up being nonsense. the most childish spiderman movies you admitted it was homecoming and ant man which is the truth. that alone is fail for mcu xmen since xmen is perhaps the most adult comic franchise.
They went from dofp to apocalypse and bounced back with Logan. xmen was a real film series and like every film series you have have ups and down. mcu xmen will be stuck in the basic generic mcu formula rule.
I hate to say this but homecoming is something people need to pretend didn't happen after into the spideverse.for xmen to be inspired by homecoming when the last spiderman move went the opposite direction is just bad.
it is a rumour but truly. what can mcu do? we know mcu cant make a movie like dofp?
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Post by scabab on Jan 23, 2019 14:18:10 GMT
the most childish spiderman movies you admitted it was homecoming and ant man which is the truth. that alone is fail for mcu xmen since xmen is perhaps the most adult comic franchise. It was probably the most childish Spider-Man movie but it wasn't a particularky childish movie or certainly not a bad one. They won't do anything similar with the X-Men though. Peter Parker is young, he's still in school. The X-Men are presumably going to be a team of adults again. Logan wasn't really an X-Men movie. The next one is this Dark Phoenix and that's not really looking all that promising yet. It's many years away so it's hardly even worth giving any thought. The current X-Men series has become stale, all the original cast is done, Magneto has been played out, they've done Apocalypse, they're doing Dark Phoenix again, they've done the prequels and spin offs. A fresh start would be a good thing for it now. It helped Spider-Man so it'll probably help X-Men. |
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Post by summers8 on Jan 23, 2019 14:32:15 GMT
the most childish spiderman movies you admitted it was homecoming and ant man which is the truth. that alone is fail for mcu xmen since xmen is perhaps the most adult comic franchise. It was probably the most childish Spider-Man movie but it wasn't a particularky childish movie or certainly not a bad one. They won't do anything similar with the X-Men though. Peter Parker is young, he's still in school. The X-Men are presumably going to be a team of adults again. Logan wasn't really an X-Men movie. The next one is this Dark Phoenix and that's not really looking all that promising yet. It's many years away so it's hardly even worth giving any thought. The current X-Men series has become stale, all the original cast is done, Magneto has been played out, they've done Apocalypse, they're doing Dark Phoenix again, they've done the prequels and spin offs. A fresh start would be a good thing for it now. It helped Spider-Man so it'll probably help X-Men.
I think it will be the same concept. it is safe to say mcu xmen will be childish. the best mcu can do is black panther or tws but when you have first class and dofp already, mcu xmen on black panther level or tws is still kind of a big fall.
all mcu movies are childish, disney has admitted they make childish movies. I think mcu just ran with it with spiderman because he was a teen.
a fresh start was always going to be new mutants and x force. the mcu forumla on xmen is not really a fresh start since mcu will just make the same movie and stamp xmen on it.
spiderman's fresh start was dismissed by spidey fans because they had the raimi movie. fresh starts only works for xmen or spiderman where there is a potential to be better than the past. mcu does not have the potential to be better than the past. remember they cant even make xmen stories due to content.
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Post by scabab on Jan 23, 2019 17:53:29 GMT
a fresh start was always going to be new mutants and x force. Nobody cares about either of those movies. Even the last proper X-Men didn't all that well and the new one will probably do worse. Whatever MCU X-Men movie they end up coming out with, whether it's good or not will be the most successful of the lot. The Spider-Man movies were doing progressively worse until Homecoming turned it around. That'll probably happen with X-Men. We don't know what they'll do yet. Why is it getting you so worked up? I haven't seen anyone so panicked over a movie that isn't even in development. We haven't even had the next X-Men movie by Fox yet for any MCU X-Men to even be thought about. [/quote] |
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Post by summers8 on Jan 23, 2019 19:54:42 GMT
a fresh start was always going to be new mutants and x force. Nobody cares about either of those movies. Even the last proper X-Men didn't all that well and the new one will probably do worse. Whatever MCU X-Men movie they end up coming out with, whether it's good or not will be the most successful of the lot. The Spider-Man movies were doing progressively worse until Homecoming turned it around. That'll probably happen with X-Men. We don't know what they'll do yet. Why is it getting you so worked up? I haven't seen anyone so panicked over a movie that isn't even in development. We haven't even had the next X-Men movie by Fox yet for any MCU X-Men to even be thought about. into the spiderverse turned it around, homecoming is mediocre.
x-men movies did not get not worse. mcu got worse look at what they did with gotg 2, ant man 2 and ragnork? there was a low with apocalypse but bounced back wit two highs after logan and deadpool 2.
I am not panicked i am just here to watch the mess. I learned from star wars but still I can still discuss future bad movies. when it is clear the people making it cant do better
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Post by scabab on Jan 24, 2019 1:47:35 GMT
into the spiderverse turned it around, homecoming is mediocre.™ No that's a whole other movie on the side, an animated movie with a different main character that's done well but will ultimately make about half a proper live action Spider-Man will. The first two Spider-Man movies were great, Spider-Man 3 was not and people didn't care for The Amazing Spider-man movies. Each movie made and less money and that was going to continue but Homecoming saved it. Apocalypse was worse than Days of Future Past and Dark Phoenix. You can't count Logan or Deadpool, they're not X-Men movies. Let's just be realistic for a moment. Apocalypse had a big drop off from the previous movie, it made over $200 million less. In America it is the second least successful Marvel movie since Mid-2013. People weren't impressed with it. You now have Dark Phoenix and people don't seem all that fussed about it, the trailer is lacking views, it's covering similar ground, there's been delays and unfortunate rumours etc. It will more than likely be even less successful. Might even be liked even less than Apocalypse. So then what? They make another movie? Now they're fighting two mediocre movies and what can they do? They've had all the main X-Men, all that people ever wanted to see have been done, Angel, Gambit, Psylocke, Quicksilver etc. They've done a lot of the major villains, Magneto Sentinels, Humans, Apocalypse, Hellfire Club etc. They obviously don't want to have the Savage Land or Genosha or Mojo World or Aliens which limits them severely. So there's not much they can do anymore, the series has ran for 18 years, it needs a fresh start because it's all become a bit stale now.[/quote] |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jan 24, 2019 3:10:28 GMT
the trailer is lacking views, Spiderverse, Venom, and Deadpool 2’s first trailers range in 15-20 million views. Dark Phoenix is in that range at 17 million views. Not really a bad view count considering the success of those other films. Venom also covered even more similar ground by retelling the origin that was already in Spider-Man 3 and there were far more unfortunate rumors about it. There were reports that test screening weren’t good and that the movie was slow. Sony didn’t even have faith in the movie as the review embargo was not lifted until the release date. I doubt the general audience know about Dark Phoenix’s first delay as there was no marketing before the trailer dropped. But have delays ever hurt a movie? Fury Road was delayed for three years after filming and Alien 3 was delayed after its teaser released but still made bank. Genosha and “aliens” will have a major role in Dark Phoenix. There was even an alien in Deadpool 2, remember? I would like to add Dark Phoenix is not really marketed as a mainline X-film but a Jean Grey movie. Hence the lack of X-Men in the title. |
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