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Post by fjenkins on Jan 28, 2019 22:05:16 GMT
sidenote * - I'm watching 'A Bronx Tale' again - anybody ever hear the tragic tale of what happened in real life to the 'kid' 'Colojodojello' in the movie? talk about life imitating art............. You know he's out, now. He's actually getting work in low budget straight to DVD stuff. I saw him in one really awful movie.
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 28, 2019 22:07:32 GMT
Tommy DeVito: No more shines, Billy.
Billy Batts: What?
Tommy DeVito: I said, no more shines. Maybe you didn't hear about it, you've been away a long time. They didn't go up there and tell you. I don't shine shoes anymore.
Billy Batts: Relax, will ya? Ya flip right out, what's got into you? I'm breaking your balls a little bit, that's all. I'm only kidding with ya...
Tommy DeVito: Sometimes you don't sound like you're kidding, you know, there's a lotta people around...
Billy Batts: I'm only kidding with you, we're having a party, I just came home and I haven't seen you in a long time and I'm breaking your balls, and you're getting fucking fresh. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you.
Tommy DeVito: I'm sorry too. It's okay. No problem.
Billy Batts: Okay, salud.
Billy Batts: [takes a drink] Now go home and get your fuckin' shinebox.
Tommy DeVito: Mother fuckin' mutt! You, you fucking piece of shit!
Billy Batts: [taunting] Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, come on!
Tommy DeVito: Motherfucking... He bought his fucking button! That fake old tough guy! You bought your fucking button! You mother fuck... Fuck! Keep that motherfucker here, keep him here!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 15:55:43 GMT
How come Carlito's Way never gets any love?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 29, 2019 16:15:18 GMT
How come Carlito's Way never gets any love? Great flick, somebody mentioned it earlier in the thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 16:32:46 GMT
No love in this thread for American Gangster With Russell Crowe and Denzel?
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 29, 2019 16:50:30 GMT
Tommy DeVito: No more shines, Billy. Billy Batts: What? Tommy DeVito: I said, no more shines. Maybe you didn't hear about it, you've been away a long time. They didn't go up there and tell you. I don't shine shoes anymore. Billy Batts: Relax, will ya? Ya flip right out, what's got into you? I'm breaking your balls a little bit, that's all. I'm only kidding with ya... Tommy DeVito: Sometimes you don't sound like you're kidding, you know, there's a lotta people around... Billy Batts: I'm only kidding with you, we're having a party, I just came home and I haven't seen you in a long time and I'm breaking your balls, and you're getting fucking fresh. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. Tommy DeVito: I'm sorry too. It's okay. No problem. Billy Batts: Okay, salud. Billy Batts: [takes a drink] Now go home and get your fuckin' shinebox. Tommy DeVito: Mother fuckin' mutt! You, you fucking piece of shit! Billy Batts: [taunting] Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, come on! Tommy DeVito: Motherfucking... He bought his fucking button! That fake old tough guy! You bought your fucking button! You mother fuck... Fuck! Keep that motherfucker here, keep him here! I flipped over from the news to this movie this morning and this scene happened to be, and I watched it with your transcript in mind. I've seen it a million times and never deciphered half of these words, or even ever thought about it. What's the button and what does buying it signify?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 16:56:32 GMT
Tommy DeVito: No more shines, Billy. Billy Batts: What? Tommy DeVito: I said, no more shines. Maybe you didn't hear about it, you've been away a long time. They didn't go up there and tell you. I don't shine shoes anymore. Billy Batts: Relax, will ya? Ya flip right out, what's got into you? I'm breaking your balls a little bit, that's all. I'm only kidding with ya... Tommy DeVito: Sometimes you don't sound like you're kidding, you know, there's a lotta people around... Billy Batts: I'm only kidding with you, we're having a party, I just came home and I haven't seen you in a long time and I'm breaking your balls, and you're getting fucking fresh. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. Tommy DeVito: I'm sorry too. It's okay. No problem. Billy Batts: Okay, salud. Billy Batts: [takes a drink] Now go home and get your fuckin' shinebox. Tommy DeVito: Mother fuckin' mutt! You, you fucking piece of shit! Billy Batts: [taunting] Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, come on! Tommy DeVito: Motherfucking... He bought his fucking button! That fake old tough guy! You bought your fucking button! You mother fuck... Fuck! Keep that motherfucker here, keep him here! I flipped over from the news to this movie this morning and this scene happened to be, and I watched it with your transcript in mind. I've seen it a million times and never deciphered half of these words, or even ever thought about it. What's the button and what does buying it signify? Billy Batts was a made man, had his button... a full mafiosa. Tommy and co were just associates, they are strictly forbidden from touching a made man.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 16:58:43 GMT
I always thought button meant 'respect' and his place in the mob.........
i.e. a 'Made Man' .......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 17:00:29 GMT
I flipped over from the news to this movie this morning and this scene happened to be, and I watched it with your transcript in mind. I've seen it a million times and never deciphered half of these words, or even ever thought about it. What's the button and what does buying it signify? Billy Batts was a made man, had his button... a full mafiosa. Tommy and co were just associates, they are strictly forbidden from touching a made man. yep - beat me to it - this was my interpretation.....
great scene.
as was tommy's eventual demise for offing a 'made man'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 17:02:24 GMT
sidenote * - I'm watching 'A Bronx Tale' again - anybody ever hear the tragic tale of what happened in real life to the 'kid' 'Colojodojello' in the movie? talk about life imitating art............. You know he's out, now. He's actually getting work in low budget straight to DVD stuff. I saw him in one really awful movie. That innocent scrawny little creampuff from A Bronx Tale looks like an animal in that pic..........
I'll have to look that movie up. Love stories about tragic figures.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 29, 2019 17:40:18 GMT
I flipped over from the news to this movie this morning and this scene happened to be, and I watched it with your transcript in mind. I've seen it a million times and never deciphered half of these words, or even ever thought about it. What's the button and what does buying it signify? Billy Batts was a made man, had his button... a full mafiosa. Tommy and co were just associates, they are strictly forbidden from touching a made man. That's what I figured, but as far as I am a aware there's no other mention of a 'button' accompanying the guy being made. If that's the case it's an interesting little detail for such a barely noticeable dialogue exchange. Like when Tommy's supposed to get made later on, I don't think there's a mention of a button. Nice little minutia though.
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Post by Marv on Jan 29, 2019 18:31:53 GMT
The Godfather Carlitos Way Goodfellas Scarface The Departed
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 18:51:16 GMT
no love for King of New York with Christopher Walken, David Caruso and Laurence Fishburne?
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 29, 2019 19:18:36 GMT
Tommy DeVito: No more shines, Billy. Billy Batts: What? Tommy DeVito: I said, no more shines. Maybe you didn't hear about it, you've been away a long time. They didn't go up there and tell you. I don't shine shoes anymore. Billy Batts: Relax, will ya? Ya flip right out, what's got into you? I'm breaking your balls a little bit, that's all. I'm only kidding with ya... Tommy DeVito: Sometimes you don't sound like you're kidding, you know, there's a lotta people around... Billy Batts: I'm only kidding with you, we're having a party, I just came home and I haven't seen you in a long time and I'm breaking your balls, and you're getting fucking fresh. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. Tommy DeVito: I'm sorry too. It's okay. No problem. Billy Batts: Okay, salud. Billy Batts: [takes a drink] Now go home and get your fuckin' shinebox. Tommy DeVito: Mother fuckin' mutt! You, you fucking piece of shit! Billy Batts: [taunting] Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, come on! Tommy DeVito: Motherfucking... He bought his fucking button! That fake old tough guy! You bought your fucking button! You mother fuck... Fuck! Keep that motherfucker here, keep him here! I flipped over from the news to this movie this morning and this scene happened to be, and I watched it with your transcript in mind. I've seen it a million times and never deciphered half of these words, or even ever thought about it. What's the button and what does buying it signify? You "get your button" means you get made. Tommy is suggesting Billy was made but not by being a tough guy who paid his dues.
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 29, 2019 19:20:13 GMT
Billy Batts was a made man, had his button... a full mafiosa. Tommy and co were just associates, they are strictly forbidden from touching a made man. That's what I figured, but as far as I am a aware there's no other mention of a 'button' accompanying the guy being made. If that's the case it's an interesting little detail for such a barely noticeable dialogue exchange. Like when Tommy's supposed to get made later on, I don't think there's a mention of a button. Nice little minutia though. "Getting your button" is another phrase for "getting made" Common in the gangster world. I've read tons of stuff on the whole genre.
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 29, 2019 19:20:56 GMT
I'm a massive Kubrick fan, love everything he's done (even Eyes Wide Shut). The Killing and Paths of Glory are standouts for me and you're 100% right in terms of recognition. Yeah, what a powerful one-two punch for a young filmmaker. Paths of Glory holds up really well. It's quite a provocative story and Kirk Douglas leads a really good ensemble. His superiors that he has to answer to literally sickened me the first time I saw it. Then, obviously, Spartacus was good but soured Kubrick on every making a movie that was not entirely on his own terms ever again, and he went on to the run of films that most people would say define his work. But those early ones are still great... I haven't seen his first couple of titles though. The killing was a great movie and one of the main ones that inspired Tarantino.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 19:24:50 GMT
no love for 'Last Man Standing' with Walken and Willis? granted it's set in the Old West - but one can argue Walken ran a mob............
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 29, 2019 20:02:08 GMT
no love for 'Last Man Standing' with Walken and Willis? granted it's set in the Old West - but one can argue Walken ran a mob............ Last man standing wasn't in the old west, it was the 1930s. It was a remake of Kurosawa's Yojimbo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 20:17:23 GMT
no love for 'Last Man Standing' with Walken and Willis? granted it's set in the Old West - but one can argue Walken ran a mob............ Last man standing wasn't in the old west, it was the 1930s. It was a remake of Kurosawa's Yojimbo. sounds 'old' and has a 'western' feel to it to me being there were shootouts in dusty old school bars, dirt roads - setting is almost a century ago
I mean - 90 years ago - i'd say that's pretty 'old', no?
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 29, 2019 20:24:12 GMT
Last man standing wasn't in the old west, it was the 1930s. It was a remake of Kurosawa's Yojimbo. sounds 'old' and has a 'western' feel to it to me being there were shootouts in dusty old school bars, dirt roads - setting is almost a century ago
I mean - 90 years ago - i'd say that's pretty 'old', no?
It's old but it's not the "old west" - old west is generally California/Arizona/Nevada in the 1880s range. The movie takes place in some out of the way town where the gangsters hide out.
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