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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 17:37:07 GMT
I like it when they revisit classic stories like that. But apparently that's just me. I wish they'd stop trying to add a new "twist" or try to make it hip with CGI overload like that King Arthur movie or the latest Robin Hood though. It looks tacky. As much as I enjoy the POTC series, I guess I'll have to blame those movies for starting that trend. This is true. I don't want to see King Arthur with a lightsaber doing triple-flips over battlements with a pair of magical rocket boots that Merlin invented. Well, alright, maybe I want to see that a little, but not for the right reasons. I think another big problem that Arthurian legend faces in modern times, and I'm just going to say it, is that it is not very "PC". There's a a lot of kidnapping of women going on and women are depicted as both having no agency and as being the downfall of virtuous men. Morgan Le Fay probably has the most agency of any woman in the legends and she's generally depicted as outright evil. This is where the concept of damsels in distress was practically invented. Arthurian legend is not for the ladies, is what I'm saying. Many of the stories revolve around women as the source of conflict and you can't do much to change that without drastically reinventing the stories to the point where you might as well write something new. Either way you go about it, you're going to face a lot of backlash from somebody. Another problem is China and whether or not they care about Arthurian legend. I know the Japanese like some of the trappings of the mythos as both juxtaposition and to draw parallels to their own samurais-- but that's Japan and I risk going off on a tangent. I'm not sure what China thinks of it but if the box office is any indication, they don't give a shit, so that's another big obstacle to overcome.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 29, 2019 18:48:42 GMT
I heard the latest one is pretty good.
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Post by vegalyra on Jan 29, 2019 18:51:21 GMT
They should make a movie about a world leader people care about like the President of CHADI would pay to see a movie about the President of Chad. I'd buy the 4k blu ray too once it came out. Sheer awesomeness. On another note, there are so many historical figures that have never had a movie made about them (or very few). Heck, where is the movie about Charlemagne? He was definitely an alpha.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 29, 2019 20:48:24 GMT
I don't know if that's completely accurate.
If they made a truly good King Arthur movie like Excalibur, and epic that delves into the heroism and the myths, then maybe there would be some interest.
But ALL the King Arthur movies they've made since then have blown.
Same with the Robin Hood tale. There's something very primal about those stories, but they have to be done right.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 29, 2019 20:52:33 GMT
They should make a movie about a world leader people care about like the President of CHADI would pay to see a movie about the President of Chad. I'd buy the 4k blu ray too once it came out. Sheer awesomeness.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 20:58:57 GMT
What they need to do is make a movie where King Arthur and Robin Hood team up that takes place after their respective stories.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 29, 2019 21:19:27 GMT
This was my first thought when I saw the trailer. Kids don't care or even know about Arthur anymore, this was never going to succeed. Honestly I think it has more to do with filling the void left by Harry Potter than the studio thinking anyone cares about King Arthur.
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Post by vegalyra on Jan 29, 2019 21:56:09 GMT
I would pay to see a movie about the President of Chad. I'd buy the 4k blu ray too once it came out. Sheer awesomeness. Are you sure?
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Post by Vits on Jan 29, 2019 23:43:27 GMT
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jan 29, 2019 23:57:10 GMT
Did you see the movie?
Worth considering that movies can have more than one influence. You don't understand the point I'm making. I'm taking about king Arthur Merlin all that. Not influences. I'm sure in the future they could make a movie with the back theme of a hero stealing from the rich and giving to the poor but if it's Robinhood then it will fail. Time's change. There's no guarantee a Robin Hood movie will fail anymore than there is that it will succeed. Western tv shows fell out of favor for decades, yet Deadwood and Westworld are two of HBO's biggest hits.
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Post by Harmless elf on Jan 30, 2019 0:37:00 GMT
You don't understand the point I'm making. I'm taking about king Arthur Merlin all that. Not influences. I'm sure in the future they could make a movie with the back theme of a hero stealing from the rich and giving to the poor but if it's Robinhood then it will fail. Time's change. There's no guarantee a Robin Hood movie will fail anymore than there is that it will succeed. Western tv shows fell out of favor for decades, yet Deadwood and Westworld are two of HBO's biggest hits. Western is a genre though, not a specific story. People don't care about these specific characters anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 3:10:55 GMT
Time's change. There's no guarantee a Robin Hood movie will fail anymore than there is that it will succeed. Western tv shows fell out of favor for decades, yet Deadwood and Westworld are two of HBO's biggest hits. Western is a genre though, not a specific story. People don't care about these specific characters anymore. I wouldn't say they don't care. These are timeless stories. It's just that there have been so many shit movies about them and they keep trying to reinvent the wheel. The Prince of Thieves is one of my favorite Films. I really wanted Guy Ritchie's movie to be great, but it wasn't. Disney might actually do a decent film, although The Kid Who Would Be King has 86% on RT. I'd prefer a film set in its historical context though. I do think they need to leave Robin Hood alone for awhile until audiences forget how Hollywood has mangled it.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jan 30, 2019 14:00:08 GMT
Time's change. There's no guarantee a Robin Hood movie will fail anymore than there is that it will succeed. Western tv shows fell out of favor for decades, yet Deadwood and Westworld are two of HBO's biggest hits. Western is a genre though, not a specific story. People don't care about these specific characters anymore. Doesn't mean they won't later on. There was a time when the X-Men were a failing franchise. Even Batman movies had fallen out of fashion for a while. Times change. They always do.
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Post by Harmless elf on Jan 30, 2019 15:45:59 GMT
Western is a genre though, not a specific story. People don't care about these specific characters anymore. Doesn't mean they won't later on. There was a time when the X-Men were a failing franchise. Even Batman movies had fallen out of fashion for a while. Times change. They always do. Yes that's my point times change and no one cares about king Arthur anymore. Maybe in 30 years, but now it's superheroes.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jan 30, 2019 15:50:52 GMT
Doesn't mean they won't later on. There was a time when the X-Men were a failing franchise. Even Batman movies had fallen out of fashion for a while. Times change. They always do. Yes that's my point times change and no one cares about king Arthur anymore. Maybe in 30 years, but now it's superheroes. But you specifically said: You were stating that even in the future, audiences won't care about characters like Robin Hood. I merely pointed out there's no way to know that.
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