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Post by drystyx on Jan 30, 2019 1:26:49 GMT
Now the final list of best Western films ever. The second list, understandably, covered the greatest era of Westerns, and this list is hampered by the poor movie making era of control freaks that dominated the late sixties, the seventies, and the eighties, and even today a bit.
In fact, it is tough to fill the list with decent Westerns from this time period, but I managed. I even put in those three Eastwood Westerns I promised for his fans. That has to make them happy, since I used what are undeniably his three best. Certainly the ones most likely to have classic status a hundred years from now.
So anyone who whines about not including any more movies with Eastwood in them is forewarned that he will stamp "Retard" on his forehead, so best not to do it.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 30, 2019 2:17:48 GMT
Last of the Mohicans is a western ? Twice ?
"Journey to Shiloh" …. Tennessee
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Post by drystyx on Jan 30, 2019 2:39:18 GMT
Last of the Mohicans is a western ? Twice ? "Journey to Shiloh" …. Tennessee I see your point. Already went over Mohicans in the other thread. In this one, it was a matter of including enough movies in an era devoid of many real Westerns. Journey to Shiloh begins in Texas. That's why it's a journey. There were those in the U.S. at the time who considered Tennessee part of the Western U.S., as the East Coast dominated the East and there was much wilderness yet in places we consider East today.and the other le Speaking of which, there are others debatable. In the second list, SAVAGE PAMPAS takes place geographically East in the Americas, being in South America, but the genre is considered Western for the wilderness, the horses, the elements. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 30, 2019 2:47:19 GMT
drystyx It will be interesting to see how many of the "non-westerns" will get votes as "best westerns"  … am rather strict in my definition of what makes a western a western as in time period, location, western plot.
edit … yeah .. there were other debatables but …  edit edit Too many that are definitely NOT western on these lists … Civil War films are NOT "westerns".. nor is Westworld and several others. Polls are really pointless if the films to be "voted on" are not even in the genre. .. so much for <shrug )
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Post by OldAussie on Jan 30, 2019 2:51:53 GMT
Hombre Glory True Grit 2010 Open Range One Eyed Jacks Last of the Mohicans 1992 Unforgiven and Josey Wales |
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Post by movielover on Jan 30, 2019 2:55:18 GMT
I've never thought of Glory as a western, but I voted for it because it's a great movie.
I also voted for The Cowboys, Young Guns II, Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid, and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.
The Wild Bunch should've been listed in your poll.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jan 30, 2019 13:12:52 GMT
YOU FORGOT Tombstone (1993)!!!
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 30, 2019 14:48:56 GMT
I've never thought of Glory as a western, That's possibly / probably because it is NOT a western !  Nor are The Alamo, Westworld and several others on the list  |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 30, 2019 15:14:32 GMT
No Tombstone?!?
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Post by vegalyra on Jan 30, 2019 16:07:56 GMT
Wyatt Earp but no Tombstone? Hmm....
Not my favorite era for Westerns but I voted for:
Open Range
Rio Lobo
El Dorado
Both True Grits
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 30, 2019 16:28:15 GMT
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
McCabe and Mrs Miller
The Wild Bunch (is that even on your list)
And where’s The Hired Hand?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 18:35:45 GMT
I haven't seen many of these but of those I have seen:
Lonesome Dove - maybe the best western novel and the tv series is as good, brilliant
Glory - I never thought of this as the traditional 'western' but I'll go along, a great film
True Grit - I have only seen the John Wayne original and I thought it was terrific
Bandolero! - I enjoyed this quite a bit, solid performances
The Lone Ranger 2013 - completely shocked me, so much better than I expecteed
Last of the Mohicans - not as good as I had hoped, but still well worth watching, incredible score
Westworld - I have to admit I was bored but the last half hour really saved this film for me
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Jan 31, 2019 5:13:45 GMT
Did you specifically set out to make 3 lists that didn't include at least half of the most entertaining and well-known westerns while randomly including non-westerns like Of Mice And Men and Django Unchained? Not sure why you couldn't include some of the following over choices like Westworld or Glory.
Your list is missing:
Ravenous (since horror-western Bone Tomahawk is included even though you nixed comedy-westerns)
Unforgiven
3:10 To Yuma
Dances With Wolves
Once Upon A Time In The West
Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid The Magnificent Seven Tombstone Dead Man The Wild Bunch The Outlaw Josey Wales The Propostion (I know it's set in Australia but it's more of a western than a number of your choices) High Plains Drifter Little Big Man Jeremiah Johnson El Topo My Name Is Nobody Heaven's Gate The Grey Fox The Great Silence
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Post by Farside on Jan 31, 2019 5:31:57 GMT
The Hateful Eight wasn't even good. Why would anyone pick that? In any case I chose Lawman, Once Upon A Time In The West, and No Country For Old Men.
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Post by drystyx on Feb 3, 2019 16:29:51 GMT
Who would have thought the True Grit remake would be in the lead, a huge lead right now even over the original?
I find it hard to separate the two. The remake stays very close to the original. The differences are very subtle.
But one has to admit that the True Grit remake is the only thing the Coen brother ever made that wasn't less than 3/10 garbage. In fact, it really stands out among their movies as a top film. Doubt it will be enough to salvage their future Oblivion in movie making History.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Feb 4, 2019 0:38:37 GMT
One-Eyed Jacks was made in 1960.
"The Professionals" is 1966 - one of the best.
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Post by drystyx on Feb 4, 2019 22:41:03 GMT
HANG EM HIGH holds second spot right now.
Easily the best western that Eastwood ever appeared in, it has the most three dimensional and well defined characters of all his Westerns, save perhaps Joe Kidd and Pale Rider.
The characters and the passiveness of Eastwood's character make it a no go for the bubble boy fans of today, but make it a "go to" film for mature thinkers.
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