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Post by klawrencio79 on Jan 30, 2019 22:32:04 GMT
Hits. Congratulations, you hit the ball. Oh, you did it 3,000 times? Well, whoop-dee-fucking-doo. Now, 4000, like Pete Rose. THAT'S something. Wins for a pitcher. You can do great but if your team sucks or the reliever blows it, how is that your fault? Total yards/touchdowns thrown. What usually matters is when, not how many. WAR, or any of those others like WHIP. Not really sure what that is, but seems kinda useless. See, this is why you'd love slugging percentage. It emphasizes attaining multiple bases with one swing. With you on Wins and WAR, but WHIP is a useful stat, as discussed elsewhere in this thread by Goodman, who is smarter than I am.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 22:36:00 GMT
Interesting.
Interesting indeed.
My immediate reaction was - well since you live in the area don't you feel compelled to support the team.
But if one is not 'taken'/attracted to a product - just because that 'product' is affiliated with their home - it doesn't necessarily mean a person has to support them/it - so there must be some reasoning.
Why do you hate the NBA?
If that was your initial reaction, I'm glad you went past it. The idea that one should feel compelled to support a local team simply because of where one lives there is fucking crazy. Think of the implications of what you just said and extend it to everything your home town has to offer. I hate the NBA because I find it boring and always have. Simple. Just like there are things you don't like. Not really much to explain about it. Absolutely.
We all have different tastes and enjoyments in life.
The NBA is not a very popular sport on here - seen it get bashed repeatedly - to each their own.
Have listened to the argument the season is meaningless and the game is too long and really doesn't matter until the final minute and the even then it is too drawn out with the multiple timeouts/fouls what have you.
But you can't find the final minute of an NBA playoff game thrilling - especially in the playoffs/finals?
Hockey is #4 out of the 4 majors for me. Same argument from me now. Boring. Regular season is meaningless and garbage. That being said - I think the drama of playoff hockey in OT far surpasses the drama the NFL, NBA, or MLB has to offer.
You're pretty much on pins and needles every time 'your' team brings the puck up the ice - or everytime 'your' team's goalie is facing a slapshot in OT.
Although not a hardcore fan anymore - I can appreciate the excitement when games matter.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jan 30, 2019 22:54:36 GMT
If that was your initial reaction, I'm glad you went past it. The idea that one should feel compelled to support a local team simply because of where one lives there is fucking crazy. Think of the implications of what you just said and extend it to everything your home town has to offer. I hate the NBA because I find it boring and always have. Simple. Just like there are things you don't like. Not really much to explain about it. Absolutely.
We all have different tastes and enjoyments in life.
The NBA is not a very popular sport on here - seen it get bashed repeatedly - to each their own.
Have listened to the argument the season is meaningless and the game is too long and really doesn't matter until the final minute and the even then it is too drawn out with the multiple timeouts/fouls what have you.
But you can't find the final minute of an NBA playoff game thrilling - especially in the playoffs/finals?
Hockey is #4 out of the 4 majors for me. Same argument from me now. Boring. Regular season is meaningless and garbage. That being said - I think the drama of playoff hockey in OT far surpasses the drama the NFL, NBA, or MLB has to offer.
You're pretty much on pins and needles every time 'your' team brings the puck up the ice - or everytime 'your' team's goalie is facing a slapshot in OT.
Although not a hardcore fan anymore - I can appreciate the excitement when games matter.
I used to follow hockey religiously, probably more closely than either baseball or football. This was growing up where I was about a 15 minute drive to the Nassau Coliseum and my dad and I went to 20 or so games every year. In 1993, we went to every playoff game. Nowadays I'm only a casual hockey fan (largely due to multiple strikes and the Islanders moving to Brooklyn), watching a game now and then but really have no vested interested in the Islanders or any other team but you're dead on about playoff hockey - it is awesome. Tense, every shift matters, awesome stuff. A grinding playoff hockey game is as good as anything sports has to offer. I just love it. I just can't watch basketball. When I was younger and would hang out at friends houses, they'd invariably watch the Knicks games and I just never got into it, playoffs included. I've been to Knicks games, Nets games (almost always with clients, using my firm's tickets), Lakers games and even a Hornets (NO) game, but I've never liked it and probably never will. As an aside, my old firm represented Carmelo Anthony (I mentioned this on the old board and perhaps on this one too) and I met him a handful of times when we were working on licensing deals and similar enterprises. You couldn't ask for a friendlier, appreciative and earnest fellow. There were a handful of athletes we worked with and of them all, he was by far the nicest and appreciative of the effort. Most of the rest of them, similar to other celebrities we worked with, couldn't be bothered and treated us like fungible billing units. In fact, many of them wouldn't even talk to us at all, instead having their people deal with it, which is fine but of the ones I did meet, Carmelo was good people.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 23:20:09 GMT
That's awesome about 'Melo. From accounts - he's a good human being and cordial. As I kid I saw Mike Mamula coming out of the Vet after a game and tried to high five him - he pretty much walked past me and left me hangin'
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Jan 31, 2019 19:15:56 GMT
Passing/receiving yards. A passing play goes for 40 yards and they both get credit for that distance? Throw to catch is QB's yardage and catch+ is the receiver's. And I'd argue that distance thrown into the endzone should count as QB yardage too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 19:23:01 GMT
Passing/receiving yards. A passing play goes for 40 yards and they both get credit for that distance? Throw to catch is QB's yardage and catch+ is the receiver's. And I'd argue that distance thrown into the endzone should count as QB yardage too. Or - 'Yards after a catch'.
You get rewarded and accolades because a defense and secondary blows and can't tackle?
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 31, 2019 19:38:59 GMT
Pretty much every stat can be meaningless in a particular context. Kurt Warner threw for about 400 yards in SB XXXVI: his team scored 17 points. I've watched basketball games where players have had triple doubles and had no impact on the game.
My least favourite are Tackles in Rugby League. This used to be the most important defensive stat in the sport, now you can br third man in, holding the legs of a player flailing on the ground and you're credited with a tackle.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 1, 2019 17:10:40 GMT
One thing I hate is when they give a kick returner more than 100 yards.
The field is only 100 yards long.
The longest possible return is 100 yards ( goal line to goal line )
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 1, 2019 17:11:26 GMT
I also wish field goals were measured from the line of scrimmage, just like every other offensive play.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Feb 1, 2019 17:17:35 GMT
This is perhaps the most overrated NBA stat. Unless you’re Oscar Robertson, who gives a shit about this? Is Russell Westbrook great because of this? No, he’s a selfish cock that values stats over team.
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Post by NJtoTX on Feb 1, 2019 18:36:10 GMT
This is perhaps the most overrated NBA stat. Unless you’re Oscar Robertson, who gives a shit about this? Is Russell Westbrook great because of this? No, he’s a selfish cock that values stats over team. And now the bigs clear out for Westbrook et al. when the defense is getting back and there are uncontested rebounds. Stephen Adams could easily have 5 or more of Russ's boards.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Feb 1, 2019 19:05:47 GMT
This is perhaps the most overrated NBA stat. Unless you’re Oscar Robertson, who gives a shit about this? Is Russell Westbrook great because of this? No, he’s a selfish cock that values stats over team. And now the bigs clear out for Westbrook et al. when the defense is getting back and there are uncontested rebounds. Stephen Adams could easily have 5 or more of Russ's boards. Flashbacks of Brett Favre letting Michael Strahan sack him. Things like this are the answer to the question “When is a stat not a stat?”
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Post by hehatesshe on Feb 2, 2019 1:47:28 GMT
wRC+ has to be the answer here. A lot of others have been mentioned, but I, at the very least, know what those mean by their very name, or have taken the time to figure out what they mean previously.
But take wRC+. Instead of spending a minute looking it up, I decided to write this post about how I don't even know what it means and couldn't even be bothered to look it up. That's gotta be the definitive "sport stat I don't care about."
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Post by hi224 on Feb 2, 2019 2:34:25 GMT
bunts?.
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Post by GiantFan1980 on Feb 2, 2019 2:39:53 GMT
Football is treated as this macho man American sport. So I do find it a bit ironic when the announcers need to fill up time and they start shoot'n the shit and pulling Wikipedia facts out of their asses.
Some guy makes a play and the announcers is like "The last time that happened was Dec 15th 1973 when the Dolhpins beat the Lions in the Orange Bowl.
Me:.........AND THAT'S NOT NERDY???!!!
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 2, 2019 5:53:32 GMT
The only ones I care about is wins and losses.
Anything else is just getting silly. What's next? Figuring out how the QB does on certain days he had sex with his wife? "Well Jim when he bangs his wife on Thursdays he does much better than when they do hanky panky on Tuesdays. Now as for the other QB, his girlfriend didn't kiss him today so it is very much in doubt he will do well at all."
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 2, 2019 6:00:06 GMT
Football is treated as this macho man American sport. So I do find it a bit ironic when the announcers need to fill up time and they start shoot'n the shit and pulling Wikipedia facts out of their asses. Some guy makes a play and the announcers is like "The last time that happened was Dec 15th 1973 when the Dolhpins beat the Lions in the Orange Bowl. Me:.........AND THAT'S NOT NERDY???!!! They act like as if the past is the present or will have any bearing on what is going on. C'mon guys. Be present. Does it really matter how many last minute chances the QB has blown it when anything else can happen now?
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