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Post by WarrenPeace on Jan 31, 2019 18:45:05 GMT
We see one of the future scientists sitting down on the plane next to the bad guy with the virus. So is she going to somehow stop it from spreading or find a cure somehow?
And James is still alive since we see him as a young boy?
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Post by azzajones on Jan 31, 2019 20:43:03 GMT
It wasn't possible to change the past, so the scientist (Jones) was going to get a sample of the original virus and use it to create a cure in the future. James is killed at the end and younger James witnessed the death of his future self.
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Post by claudius on Jan 31, 2019 21:44:05 GMT
From what I read, the future plague still happens, the scientist takes the sample, returns to the future, finds a cure but for the scientists' own self-interest (cure their area but let's the rest of the world remain plagued, use the cure to render them in a powerful position). Those scientists don't seem rather altruistic.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 31, 2019 23:27:03 GMT
The ending is purposely ambiguous and James will always still be alive because time keeps repeating itself. He will grow up and then be sent back in time again and fail again and so on. the dream he always has is of him as a child seeing himself killed as an adult in the Airport, suggesting this will happened an infinite amount of times.
That is how I see it anyway.
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Post by darksidebeadle on Jan 31, 2019 23:29:41 GMT
the credits ran
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 1, 2019 6:00:06 GMT
The ending is purposely ambiguous and James will always still be alive because time keeps repeating itself. He will grow up and then be sent back in time again and fail again and so on. the dream he always has is of him as a child seeing himself killed as an adult in the Airport, suggesting this will happened an infinite amount of times. That is how I see it anyway. The difference is that the scientist is now sitting next to the terrorist so if she changes the future then James won't have to go back. Mission accomplished for him. And since the boy James saw the crime, he may not grow up to end up in prison after all somehow.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 1, 2019 6:01:06 GMT
It wasn't possible to change the past, so the scientist (Jones) was going to get a sample of the original virus and use it to create a cure in the future. James is killed at the end and younger James witnessed the death of his future self. I don't see how it can be possible at all to run into yourself through time travel.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 1, 2019 6:06:11 GMT
The ending is purposely ambiguous and James will always still be alive because time keeps repeating itself. He will grow up and then be sent back in time again and fail again and so on. the dream he always has is of him as a child seeing himself killed as an adult in the Airport, suggesting this will happened an infinite amount of times. That is how I see it anyway. The difference is that the scientist is now sitting next to the terrorist so if she changes the future then James won't have to go back. Mission accomplished for him. And since the boy James saw the crime, he may not grow up to end up in prison after all somehow. That depends on what the scientist does with the cure or if they even find a cure. I assumed that the scientist was going to take the cure to the future and not change anything in the past. Let's say the scientist finds a cure and stays in the past. James would simply grow up normally, but that doesn't change all the times this has possibly happened before. I see the movie as saying that you can't change the past and I don't think the scientist will find a cure, but that is just how I see it. The movie has a very nihilistic tone. The movie is suppose to be an infinite time loop. The events of the movie have always happened and they will always happen. That is what makes the movie so great.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 1, 2019 6:07:14 GMT
It wasn't possible to change the past, so the scientist (Jones) was going to get a sample of the original virus and use it to create a cure in the future. James is killed at the end and younger James witnessed the death of his future self. I don't see how it can be possible at all to run into yourself through time travel. Why would that not be possible? Time travel isn't possible in the first place, so there are no rules that time travel based movies have to follow.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 1, 2019 6:37:08 GMT
I don't see how it can be possible at all to run into yourself through time travel. Why would that not be possible? Time travel isn't possible in the first place, so there are no rules that time travel based movies have to follow. You really think that you could run into yourself as a kid if you time travelled back in the past? You can't. There is only one you and you would be an adult at that time as an adult as James was. Same thing here. Other than that BS it's a good movie.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 1, 2019 6:41:02 GMT
Why would that not be possible? Time travel isn't possible in the first place, so there are no rules that time travel based movies have to follow. You really think that you could run into yourself as a kid if you time travelled back in the past? You can't. There is only one you and you would be an adult at that time as an adult as James was. Same thing here. Other than that BS it's a good movie. He exists in the past as a kid, so of course he could run into himself. Your argument makes no sense to me. There is only one you, unless you go into the past to a time after you were born. Then there would be 2 of you. This is actually a major plot point in the movie Time Cop. Why is this not making sense to you?
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 1, 2019 6:48:44 GMT
You really think that you could run into yourself as a kid if you time travelled back in the past? You can't. There is only one you and you would be an adult at that time as an adult as James was. Same thing here. Other than that BS it's a good movie. He exists in the past as a kid, so of course he could run into himself. Your argument makes no sense to me. There is only one you, unless you go into the past to a time after you were born. Then there would be 2 of you. This is actual a major plot point in the movie Time Cop. Why is this not making sense to you? If time travel were possible, I don't see how you could run into your past or future self. There is only one of you. You grew up. That's it. As you pointed out, it's a sci fi movie where anything can happen.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 1, 2019 6:54:13 GMT
He exists in the past as a kid, so of course he could run into himself. Your argument makes no sense to me. There is only one you, unless you go into the past to a time after you were born. Then there would be 2 of you. This is actual a major plot point in the movie Time Cop. Why is this not making sense to you? If time travel were possible, I don't see how you could run into your past or future self. There is only one of you. You grew up. That's it. As you pointed out, it's a sci fi movie where anything can happen. It makes total sense to me and what you are saying makes no sense to me. It feels like there is some mental block that is stopping you from understanding the concept. Or you are seriously overthinking things.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Feb 1, 2019 6:56:37 GMT
First of all, it's a Terry Gilliam film.
Secondly, IMO, we start all over again.
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Post by Winter_King on Feb 1, 2019 11:12:15 GMT
The whole thing about the movie is that you can't change the past. I saw it as the scientists in the future will get their sample in order to produce the cure for the disease in the future.
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