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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Feb 3, 2019 18:57:44 GMT
In fairness to his claim, New York has 3 NFL teams, 3 NHL teams, 2 NBA teams, 2 MLS teams, and 2 MLB teams. That's 12 professional teams to Massachusetts' 5. And California has 4 NFL teams, 3 NHL teams, 4 NBA teams, 3 MLS teams, and 5 MLB teams. That's a whopping 19 teams. Not really comparing apples to apples. New York has 3 NFL teams but One never won, another last won when we were landing on the moon, and only the Giants have had recent success. They have two NBA teams but one never won and most of you weren’t born when the other won. Go back to the 80s for the Islanders and one blip year for the Rangers in the 90s and forget about the Sabres. Most of that are Yankees and baseball teams that have since moved west.
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Post by Aj_June on Feb 3, 2019 19:11:11 GMT
In fairness to his claim, New York has 3 NFL teams, 3 NHL teams, 2 NBA teams, 2 MLS teams, and 2 MLB teams. That's 12 professional teams to Massachusetts' 5. And California has 4 NFL teams, 3 NHL teams, 4 NBA teams, 3 MLS teams, and 5 MLB teams. That's a whopping 19 teams. Not really comparing apples to apples. New York has 3 NFL teams but One never won, another last won when we were landing on the moon, and only the Giants have had recent success. They have two NBA teams but one never won and most of you weren’t born when the other won. Go back to the 80s for the Islanders and one blip year for the Rangers in the 90s and forget about the Sabres. Most of that are Yankees and baseball teams that have since moved west. That's really really bad statistics for NY. Its achievements are so concentrated.
I believe Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Illinois have been phenomenal. Texas seem to be a major disappointment. It's rich and big in population though I understand it may not have been rich before the oil was found. But even oil boom happened a long long time ago. That would be pre-50s. So they are big underachievers. Although Spurs have recently got 5 for them.
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Post by hehatesshe on Feb 3, 2019 19:29:26 GMT
Given the difference in the population/economy size of the 3, Mass really is the most successful. It doesn't even have multiple teams unlike CA and NY. No, NY and California are the 2 most succeddful states. It's not NY and California's fault that Massachsetts is too lame to support more pro sports teams. Heck, throw in Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. That's 6 states (including Mass). NY and California sill beat those 6 states combined. Don't know how you can consider yourself the most successful state when every year you have over 10 teams that don't even make the playoffs.
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Post by hehatesshe on Feb 3, 2019 19:30:39 GMT
In fairness to his claim, New York has 3 NFL teams, 3 NHL teams, 2 NBA teams, 2 MLS teams, and 2 MLB teams. That's 12 professional teams to Massachusetts' 5. And California has 4 NFL teams, 3 NHL teams, 4 NBA teams, 3 MLS teams, and 5 MLB teams. That's a whopping 19 teams. Not really comparing apples to apples. New York has 3 NFL teams but One never won, another last won when we were landing on the moon, and only the Giants have had recent success. They have two NBA teams but one never won and most of you weren’t born when the other won. Go back to the 80s for the Islanders and one blip year for the Rangers in the 90s and forget about the Sabres. Most of that are Yankees and baseball teams that have since moved west. Which side are you arguing for again? That doesn't sound like a successful state to me.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Feb 3, 2019 19:37:54 GMT
In fairness to his claim, New York has 3 NFL teams, 3 NHL teams, 2 NBA teams, 2 MLS teams, and 2 MLB teams. That's 12 professional teams to Massachusetts' 5. And California has 4 NFL teams, 3 NHL teams, 4 NBA teams, 3 MLS teams, and 5 MLB teams. That's a whopping 19 teams. Not really comparing apples to apples. New York has 3 NFL teams but One never won, another last won when we were landing on the moon, and only the Giants have had recent success. They have two NBA teams but one never won and most of you weren’t born when the other won. Go back to the 80s for the Islanders and one blip year for the Rangers in the 90s and forget about the Sabres. Most of that are Yankees and baseball teams that have since moved west. Well with basketball that depends on how you count it. The Nets have to ABA championships, but they've only been a 'New York team' for a few years. So so their championships count from their history or do they drag down the average as being a team that never won in New York even though they've only played in Brooklyn for short while? Not clear on how they're counting that.
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