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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 8:49:41 GMT
There is a book by George Orwell called Animal Farm.
I know how much you like to read books cover to cover. Yeah right, you haven't read a book cover to cover since the internet started. It's difficult for you pot heads to read something as long as a book, isn't it?
At one time Animal Farm was required reading in school. Maybe someone here remembers that.
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Post by geode on Feb 5, 2019 9:17:59 GMT
There is a book by George Orwell called Animal Farm. I know how much you like to read books cover to cover. Yeah right, you haven't read a book cover to cover since the internet started. It's difficult for you pot heads to read something as long as a book, isn't it? At one time Animal Farm was required reading in school. Maybe someone here remembers that. I read it 51 years ago, and your point would be?
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Post by Karl Aksel on Feb 5, 2019 9:42:35 GMT
There is a book by George Orwell called Animal Farm. I know how much you like to read books cover to cover. Yeah right, you haven't read a book cover to cover since the internet started. It's difficult for you pot heads to read something as long as a book, isn't it? At one time Animal Farm was required reading in school. Maybe someone here remembers that. No one has even said anything to you yet, and you start out with a pretty broad judgement call. Do you count yourself among the pot heads, or do you grace us with your presence out of the goodness of your heart?
You don't even seem to have a point with this thread, other than to state that a) there is a book by George Orwell, and b) you just wanted to call everyone pot heads. Pretty random.
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 11:47:26 GMT
There is a book by George Orwell called Animal Farm. I know how much you like to read books cover to cover. Yeah right, you haven't read a book cover to cover since the internet started. It's difficult for you pot heads to read something as long as a book, isn't it? At one time Animal Farm was required reading in school. Maybe someone here remembers that. No one has even said anything to you yet, and you start out with a pretty broad judgement call. Do you count yourself among the pot heads, or do you grace us with your presence out of the goodness of your heart?
You don't even seem to have a point with this thread, other than to state that a) there is a book by George Orwell, and b) you just wanted to call everyone pot heads. Pretty random.
Excuse me, are any Republicans trying to make marijuana illegal? Any Democrats? Any atheists? I have a web page complaining about marijuana and explaining why. I suppose there might be several people who are not pot heads and could read the book in a rather short time if they haven't already. It's not very long. There are comparisons that could be made to Donald Trump and other current public figures. Who would you say on the animal farm reminds you most of Trump?
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 11:50:00 GMT
There is a book by George Orwell called Animal Farm. I know how much you like to read books cover to cover. Yeah right, you haven't read a book cover to cover since the internet started. It's difficult for you pot heads to read something as long as a book, isn't it? At one time Animal Farm was required reading in school. Maybe someone here remembers that. You can't possibly have any inkling of what other poster's book reading experiences have been, and making broad and conceited statements that only prove how pompous you really are Arlon, why don't you let on why this book was considered required reading in schools and what are it's finer points and details, let alone your own point for bringing it up? Which is why there is this thread. I brought it up because there are comparisons to be made between characters in the book and public figures today.
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 11:51:46 GMT
There is a book by George Orwell called Animal Farm. I know how much you like to read books cover to cover. Yeah right, you haven't read a book cover to cover since the internet started. It's difficult for you pot heads to read something as long as a book, isn't it? At one time Animal Farm was required reading in school. Maybe someone here remembers that. I read it 51 years ago, and your point would be? Is there any public figure today you would compare to the character Snowball?
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Post by Karl Aksel on Feb 5, 2019 12:15:05 GMT
No one has even said anything to you yet, and you start out with a pretty broad judgement call. Do you count yourself among the pot heads, or do you grace us with your presence out of the goodness of your heart?
You don't even seem to have a point with this thread, other than to state that a) there is a book by George Orwell, and b) you just wanted to call everyone pot heads. Pretty random.
Excuse me, are any Republicans trying to make marijuana illegal? Any Democrats? Any atheists? I have a web page complaining about marijuana and explaining why. I suppose there might be several people who are not pot heads and could read the book in a rather short time if they haven't already. It's not very long. There are comparisons that could be made to Donald Trump and other current public figures. Who would you say on the animal farm reminds you most of Trump? Excuse me, are you trying to make alcohol illegal? No? Can I call you a wino, then?
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 12:26:39 GMT
Excuse me, are any Republicans trying to make marijuana illegal? Any Democrats? Any atheists? I have a web page complaining about marijuana and explaining why. I suppose there might be several people who are not pot heads and could read the book in a rather short time if they haven't already. It's not very long. There are comparisons that could be made to Donald Trump and other current public figures. Who would you say on the animal farm reminds you most of Trump? Excuse me, are you trying to make alcohol illegal? No? Can I call you a wino, then? I get your point, see how civil I can be when I try? However the comparison is not perfect, alcohol and marijuana are not the same problem. No, I do not drink alcohol regularly, but it is a great household antiseptic. One time when I had a persistent stomach virus I did treat it with whiskey.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Feb 5, 2019 12:34:31 GMT
Excuse me, are you trying to make alcohol illegal? No? Can I call you a wino, then? I get your point, see how civil I can be when I try? However the comparison is not perfect, alcohol and marijuana are not the same problem. No, I do not drink alcohol regularly, but it is a great household antiseptic. One time when I had a persistent stomach virus I did treat it with whiskey. Just like you don't need to be an alcoholic to argue against prohibition, you don't need to be a pot head to argue for legalising marijuana. Marijuana, too, can be used medicinally. Personally I have never tried marijuana, and never intend to. I am ambivalent on the issue of legalisation, though. On the one hand I don't want the stuff on the market, but on the other, the market will exist whether you ban it or not. The question is, do you want legal and regulated businesses to control the market, or organised crime?
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 12:46:40 GMT
I get your point, see how civil I can be when I try? However the comparison is not perfect, alcohol and marijuana are not the same problem. No, I do not drink alcohol regularly, but it is a great household antiseptic. One time when I had a persistent stomach virus I did treat it with whiskey. Just like you don't need to be an alcoholic to argue against prohibition, you don't need to be a pot head to argue for legalising marijuana. Marijuana, too, can be used medicinally. Personally I have never tried marijuana, and never intend to. I am ambivalent on the issue of legalisation, though. On the one hand I don't want the stuff on the market, but on the other, the market will exist whether you ban it or not. The question is, do you want legal and regulated businesses to control the market, or organised crime? Great. Now try to understand, when I say "you pot heads" I mean the people who know they are, not every last individual on the board. That you take offense suggests to me you have some learning disability, or is English your first language? I have no exact details on the legal restraints that ought to be placed on marijuana. I do however notice that users have difficulties processing large quantities of text and remind people on my website of this.
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Post by geode on Feb 5, 2019 12:51:27 GMT
I read it 51 years ago, and your point would be? Is there any public figure today you would compare to the character Snowball? I think it is easier to find a public figure to compare to Napoleon, that being Donald Trump. But with that parallel made the treatment of Snowball by Napoleon is similar to what Trump does to Obama or Hillary Clinton in blaming anything not going correctly upon one of them, or both of them.
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 13:02:03 GMT
Is there any public figure today you would compare to the character Snowball? I think it is easier to find a public figure to compare to Napoleon, that being Donald Trump. But with that parallel made the treatment of Snowball by Napoleon is similar to what Trump does to Obama or Hillary Clinton in blaming anything not going correctly upon one of them, or both of them. Bingo. Thanks, I didn't want to be the first to say it. I think Barak is closer to Snowball than Hillary, but I suppose there are arguments for both of them.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Feb 5, 2019 13:03:51 GMT
Just like you don't need to be an alcoholic to argue against prohibition, you don't need to be a pot head to argue for legalising marijuana. Marijuana, too, can be used medicinally. Personally I have never tried marijuana, and never intend to. I am ambivalent on the issue of legalisation, though. On the one hand I don't want the stuff on the market, but on the other, the market will exist whether you ban it or not. The question is, do you want legal and regulated businesses to control the market, or organised crime? Great. Now try to understand, when I say "you pot heads" I mean the people who know they are, not every last individual on the board. That you take offense suggests to me you have some learning disability, or is English your first language? I have no exact details on the legal restraints that ought to be placed on marijuana. I do however notice that users have difficulties processing large quantities of text and remind people on my website of this. My command of the English language is evidently better than yours, if you think your first post was not a blanket accusation against every man jack on this board. You did not address "people who know they are pot heads", as you made no such distinction.
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 13:09:05 GMT
Great. Now try to understand, when I say "you pot heads" I mean the people who know they are, not every last individual on the board. That you take offense suggests to me you have some learning disability, or is English your first language? I have no exact details on the legal restraints that ought to be placed on marijuana. I do however notice that users have difficulties processing large quantities of text and remind people on my website of this. My command of the English language is evidently better than yours, if you think your first post was not a blanket accusation against every man jack on this board. You did not address "people who know they are pot heads", as you made no such distinction. My impression is that you are too insistent on your interpretations. "You pot heads" also refers loosely to people who have not for one reason or another done the amount of reading I would expect from people who do not use marijuana, even if that reason is not marijuana use. How upset are you going to get over that?
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Post by Karl Aksel on Feb 5, 2019 13:26:44 GMT
My command of the English language is evidently better than yours, if you think your first post was not a blanket accusation against every man jack on this board. You did not address "people who know they are pot heads", as you made no such distinction. My impression is that you are too insistent on your interpretations. "You pot heads" also refers loosely to people who have not for one reason or another done the amount of reading I would expect from people who do not use marijuana, even if that reason is not marijuana use. How upset are you going to get over that? "You pot heads" also refer to everyone else besides the ones you mention - because again, you addressed all of us: "I know how much you like to read books cover to cover." "You" who? Grammatically, this means everyone on the board in which the thread is posted, because you made no distinction. Unless you specify whom you mean by "you", then "you" is unspecified. And you never made any distinctions later on either until I twisted your arm to come up with some half-baked back-paddling. Perhaps you really did mean "just the ones who actually fit the description, and not people here in general", but that is not what you communicated. But seeing as you failed to even outline a topic in your OP (you had to be prodded to provide that, too), I'm not surprised you find nothing wrong with your communication.
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 13:29:42 GMT
My impression is that you are too insistent on your interpretations. "You pot heads" also refers loosely to people who have not for one reason or another done the amount of reading I would expect from people who do not use marijuana, even if that reason is not marijuana use. How upset are you going to get over that? "You pot heads" also refer to everyone else besides the ones you mention - because again, you addressed all of us: "I know how much you like to read books cover to cover." "You" who? Grammatically, this means everyone on the board in which the thread is posted, because you made no distinction. Unless you specify whom you mean by "you", then "you" is unspecified. And you never made any distinctions later on either until I twisted your arm to come up with some half-baked back-paddling. Perhaps you really did mean "just the ones who actually fit the description, and not people here in general", but that is not what you communicated. But seeing as you failed to even outline a topic in your OP (you had to be prodded to provide that, too), I'm not surprised you find nothing wrong with your communication. You don't teach English. Pretending you do on the internet is amusing to watch though.
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Post by phludowin on Feb 5, 2019 14:10:43 GMT
Is there any public figure today you would compare to the character Snowball? I think it is easier to find a public figure to compare to Napoleon, that being Donald Trump. But with that parallel made the treatment of Snowball by Napoleon is similar to what Trump does to Obama or Hillary Clinton in blaming anything not going correctly upon one of them, or both of them. I disagree. Trump, while being a bad politician and probably the worst president in recent history, is not a ruthless dictator who has political opponents being executed or sent from the USA. I believe he is more like Mr.Jones, from a time when the Manor Farm was still prosperous (meaning before the events depicted in the book). The USA are not broke yet, but if Trump continues his blundering, I don't know for how long. If we were to compare Animal Farm to current places, we'd have to look at places which have dictatorships, like Turkey (Erdogan = Napoleon), or Belarus (does Lukaschenko have a Snowball?) But it's obvious that George Orwell wrote Animal Farm with Soviet Union in mind. Which state is like Soviet Union today? The correct answer, I believe, is: None.
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Post by Arlon10 on Feb 5, 2019 14:17:10 GMT
I think it is easier to find a public figure to compare to Napoleon, that being Donald Trump. But with that parallel made the treatment of Snowball by Napoleon is similar to what Trump does to Obama or Hillary Clinton in blaming anything not going correctly upon one of them, or both of them. I disagree. Trump, while being a bad politician and probably the worst president in recent history, is not a ruthless dictator who has political opponents being executed or sent from the USA. I believe he is more like Mr.Jones, from a time when the Manor Farm was still prosperous (meaning before the events depicted in the book). The USA are not broke yet, but if Trump continues his blundering, I don't know for how long. If we were to compare Animal Farm to current places, we'd have to look at places which have dictatorships, like Turkey (Erdogan = Napoleon), or Belarus (does Lukaschenko have a Snowball?) But it's obvious that George Orwell wrote Animal Farm with Soviet Union in mind. Which state is like Soviet Union today? The correct answer, I believe, is: None. I am aware that comparisons with public figures today would have to be incidental, except to the limited extent that some dramas are timeless.
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Post by geode on Feb 5, 2019 14:21:28 GMT
I think it is easier to find a public figure to compare to Napoleon, that being Donald Trump. But with that parallel made the treatment of Snowball by Napoleon is similar to what Trump does to Obama or Hillary Clinton in blaming anything not going correctly upon one of them, or both of them. I disagree. Trump, while being a bad politician and probably the worst president in recent history, is not a ruthless dictator who has political opponents being executed or sent from the USA. I believe he is more like Mr.Jones, from a time when the Manor Farm was still prosperous (meaning before the events depicted in the book). The USA are not broke yet, but if Trump continues his blundering, I don't know for how long. If we were to compare Animal Farm to current places, we'd have to look at places which have dictatorships, like Turkey (Erdogan = Napoleon), or Belarus (does Lukaschenko have a Snowball?) But it's obvious that George Orwell wrote Animal Farm with Soviet Union in mind. Which state is like Soviet Union today? The correct answer, I believe, is: None. Having been written by Orwell with the Soviet Union and Stalin in mind over 70 years ago it is not possible to make a current comparison that fits all of the content and characters. Trump may not be a dictator yet, but neither is Napoleon at the start of the book. He just has latent tendencies. Trump has not been forced from control like Mr. Jones. But in choosing Trump as Napoleon it makes it possible to find a counterpart figure(s) for Snowball. With my selection that becomes possible, and that was the question posed, so I still think my choice holds up better than what you are coming up with.
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Post by clusium on Feb 5, 2019 14:43:16 GMT
I read it 51 years ago, and your point would be? Is there any public figure today you would compare to the character Snowball? Nope. Can't think of any. I must confess, there are not that many politicians that I really like, right now.
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