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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 5, 2019 15:42:39 GMT
Q: On the movie side of things, are X-Force and Gambit still projects that are going ahead, or is everything on hold, at the moment, until the Disney acquisition is complete?A: DONNER: Everything is on hold, since Disney took over. I, frankly, took a step back after Deadpool, so I wasn’t front and center, at all, for Apocalypse or New Mutants or Simon Kinberg’s Dark Phoenix. He took over, but these were things that I put in place. With Gambit, certainly, it’s too bad that it’s taking so long because I really wanted to see that. It’s such a great character. But, let’s see. Let’s hope so. Right now, it’s all in Disney’s hands. We don’t know what they’re gonna do. Now, it goes to Kevin Feige, who was my protégé. He and I started X-Men together, so I do trust him, not only based on knowing him and knowing how he knows the story so well, but on pure evidence. With his movies, there’s not a bad one in the bunch. He’ll figure it out. The problem lies in how many movies you can release in a year. Being a standalone movie help because they’re not multiple character, real hardcore superhero movies. You don’t want the audience to get sick of it. You don’t want the audience not to go to this one because they already saw a superhero movie a couple months ago, or last month. That’s the rub, right there. collider.com/fox-marvel-movies-status-update-lauren-shuler-donner/So can we stop posting tweets from clueless jobbers saying, "I'm still working on X, and Y is definitely still happening?"
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 5, 2019 15:46:43 GMT
Q: Are you hoping to see the main X-Men franchise continue on, after Dark Phoenix?
DONNER: I want it to go in a different direction, very much. I think we’ve played that out and it needs to evolve. I don’t know. There are lots of stories. There are some great stories to do, especially with Cable and with X-Force. I’d love to see it. I really would. But, I don’t know.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 5, 2019 15:56:14 GMT
another person like mcavoy who knows how retarded xmen will be in the mcu. but says it nicely. truth speakers are so cool. laura should see things as fortunate. like star wars, xmen got real movies that would stand the test of time compared to the Disney crap.
new mutants was evolving the genre, to something Disney cant do. good DC will counter that. either way, MCU is still crashing artistically.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 5, 2019 16:27:08 GMT
another person like mcavoy who knows how retarded xmen will be in the mcu. but says it nicely. truth speakers are so cool. laura should see things as fortunate. like star wars, xmen got real movies that would stand the test of time compared to the Disney crap. new mutants was evolving the genre, to something Disney cant do. good DC will countered that. either way, MCU is still crashing artistically. Right, I suppose everyone who had even half a say in the creative direction of the now near-defunct X-Men franchise all agrees with James McAvoy and now Lauren Shuler Donner. It's one giant consensus party - makes perfect sense. Some people have a hard time believing you are or were a lawyer. I don't doubt it for a minute. “Kevin (Feige) and I started the first movie, he worked for me, he has a great story sense when it comes to weaving each world together, I trust him and I trust where he will take it,” said Shuler Donner. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 5, 2019 20:36:11 GMT
Now she wants the franchise to evolve? The franchise didn't evolve until someone went rogue (Deadpool).
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Post by charzhino on Feb 5, 2019 21:01:31 GMT
New Mutants will be the last Fox comic book film.
But didnt know she took a step back from Apocalypse, New Mutants and Dark Phoenix. Guess its no coincidence the mayhem thats followed those projects.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 5, 2019 21:05:45 GMT
another person like mcavoy who knows how retarded xmen will be in the mcu. but says it nicely. What did he say? Didn't the director of Logan (Mangold) say something about it too.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 5, 2019 21:12:26 GMT
another person like mcavoy who knows how retarded xmen will be in the mcu. but says it nicely. What did he say? Didn't the director of Logan (Mangold) say something about it too.
Basically said MCU might not have the right setup to introduce Xmen into its hero loving world. And if they wanted him he would play Xavier if the project was interesting enough because "you cant keep doing the same thing over and over" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 10:30:08 GMT
I wish they'd just release them and get it over with. I'd watch New Mutants but not Dark Phoenix. Let the reboot commence and get some casting and director news going. Every update I see in terms of XMen related stuff anymore just depresses me because I used to love this franchise. I need something to get excited about in terms of XMen again.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 6, 2019 15:22:06 GMT
another person like mcavoy who knows how retarded xmen will be in the mcu. but says it nicely. What did he say? Didn't the director of Logan (Mangold) say something about it too.
he just implied mcu was generic silly stuff and xmen was a lot deeper. mixing both is not a good thing but he thinks they will find way. mangold worries about creative freedom and real film making, something he said mcu does not have. these men are lucky. mcavoy got to shine in dofp, mangold in logan. the mcu actors ..I do feel sorry for them. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 8, 2019 8:00:35 GMT
What did he say? Didn't the director of Logan (Mangold) say something about it too.
Basically said MCU might not have the right setup to introduce Xmen into its hero loving world. And if they wanted him he would play Xavier if the project was interesting enough because "you cant keep doing the same thing over and over" The set up meaning there aren't a lot of powered people. Something that bringing in Mutants would do. And about doing the same thing over and over, he was talking about his own movies. They've been retreading the same thing for all 7 main X-men movies. |
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Post by charzhino on Feb 8, 2019 13:21:18 GMT
Basically said MCU might not have the right setup to introduce Xmen into its hero loving world. And if they wanted him he would play Xavier if the project was interesting enough because "you cant keep doing the same thing over and over" The set meaning there aren't a lot of powered people. Something that bringing in Mutants would do. And about doing the same thing over and over, he was talking about his own movies. They've been retreading the same thing for all 7 main X-men movies. The number is growing in the MCU, as Vision projected.
I know he was talking about the X-men movies.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 8, 2019 13:40:11 GMT
The set meaning there aren't a lot of powered people. Something that bringing in Mutants would do. And about doing the same thing over and over, he was talking about his own movies. They've been retreading the same thing for all 7 main X-men movies. The number is growing in the MCU, as Vision projected.
I know he was talking about the X-men movies.
Well, yeah. More movies and new characters. But, at the moment, there is only a small amount. And with Mutants coming in, powered nonheroes/villains will spike. That's the part I think McAvoy was talking about. The everyday Mutants that just want to live. Not the ones that want to join a super team. |
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Post by charzhino on Feb 8, 2019 14:07:25 GMT
The number is growing in the MCU, as Vision projected.
I know he was talking about the X-men movies.
Well, yeah. More movies and new characters. But, at the moment, there is only a small amount. And with Mutants coming in, powered nonheroes/villains will spike. That's the part I think McAvoy was talking about. The everyday Mutants that just want to live. Not the ones that want to join a super team. He was talking about whether introducing mutants right now in a superhero loved world would be compatible and not dampen the mutant-paranoia trait. Short answer is that it would be difficult to achieve a balance. We don't actually know exactly what the humans in the world of the MCU think about the Avengers and their status as heros because its never been shown in any of the films. A small snippet at the end of The Avengers with people celebrating their victory, with positive hand held banners and replica gear. But all the focus has been on the heros themselves along with the villains and human government officials. Nothing on street level. So when mutants are introduced, how are we going to appreciate the turn in public opinion when that opinion was never firmly established in the first place? Humans characterisation has played a key role in all the Xmen films to harbour a general feeling of anti-mutant sentiment in the world the Xmen live in. From Bobbys parents and brother, to the humans using mutants as slave cage fighters; all depict how untrustworthy mutants are to humans. Where are the humans who show affection or hate to Avengers? Theyve never been shown. When mutants are introduced, why should we care what they think now all of a sudden when we didnt care before. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 8, 2019 17:13:35 GMT
Well, yeah. More movies and new characters. But, at the moment, there is only a small amount. And with Mutants coming in, powered nonheroes/villains will spike. That's the part I think McAvoy was talking about. The everyday Mutants that just want to live. Not the ones that want to join a super team. He was talking about whether introducing mutants right now in a superhero loved world would be compatible and not dampen the mutant-paranoia trait. Short answer is that it would be difficult to achieve a balance. We don't actually know exactly what the humans in the world of the MCU think about the Avengers and their status as heros because its never been shown in any of the films. A small snippet at the end of The Avengers with people celebrating their victory, with positive hand held banners and replica gear. But all the focus has been on the heros themselves along with the villains and human government officials. Nothing on street level. So when mutants are introduced, how are we going to appreciate the turn in public opinion when that opinion was never firmly established in the first place? Humans characterisation has played a key role in all the Xmen films to harbour a general feeling of anti-mutant sentiment in the world the Xmen live in. From Bobbys parents and brother, to the humans using mutants as slave cage fighters; all depict how untrustworthy mutants are to humans. Where are the humans who show affection or hate to Avengers? Theyve never been shown. When mutants are introduced, why should we care what they think now all of a sudden when we didnt care before. It's been shown in both Avengers (loved) and AoU (some what hated) and also Civil War (individual hate). Not gonna be too into replying for a bit. Mom had a heart attack and is in the hospital. |
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Post by charzhino on Feb 8, 2019 17:31:12 GMT
It's been shown in both Avengers (loved) and AoU (some what hated) and also Civil War (individual hate). Not gonna be too into replying for a bit. Mom had a heart attack and is in the hospital. Hope she recovers well. |
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Post by summers8 on Feb 8, 2019 17:32:11 GMT
He was talking about whether introducing mutants right now in a superhero loved world would be compatible and not dampen the mutant-paranoia trait. Short answer is that it would be difficult to achieve a balance. We don't actually know exactly what the humans in the world of the MCU think about the Avengers and their status as heros because its never been shown in any of the films. A small snippet at the end of The Avengers with people celebrating their victory, with positive hand held banners and replica gear. But all the focus has been on the heros themselves along with the villains and human government officials. Nothing on street level. So when mutants are introduced, how are we going to appreciate the turn in public opinion when that opinion was never firmly established in the first place? Humans characterisation has played a key role in all the Xmen films to harbour a general feeling of anti-mutant sentiment in the world the Xmen live in. From Bobbys parents and brother, to the humans using mutants as slave cage fighters; all depict how untrustworthy mutants are to humans. Where are the humans who show affection or hate to Avengers? Theyve never been shown. When mutants are introduced, why should we care what they think now all of a sudden when we didnt care before. It's been shown in both Avengers (loved) and AoU (some what hated) and also Civil War (individual hate). Not gonna be too into replying for a bit. Mom had a heart attack and is in the hospital. so sad about your mum, hope she recovers.
to what extent has it been shown in civil ?
civil war folks was not hated because of genetics. also look how civil war quickly disposed how dangerous these people are for a cheap silly revenge story line that turned into a cage match unlike xmen that will make it more about philosophy.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 8, 2019 17:35:13 GMT
Well, yeah. More movies and new characters. But, at the moment, there is only a small amount. And with Mutants coming in, powered nonheroes/villains will spike. That's the part I think McAvoy was talking about. The everyday Mutants that just want to live. Not the ones that want to join a super team. He was talking about whether introducing mutants right now in a superhero loved world would be compatible and not dampen the mutant-paranoia trait. Short answer is that it would be difficult to achieve a balance. We don't actually know exactly what the humans in the world of the MCU think about the Avengers and their status as heros because its never been shown in any of the films. A small snippet at the end of The Avengers with people celebrating their victory, with positive hand held banners and replica gear. But all the focus has been on the heros themselves along with the villains and human government officials. Nothing on street level. So when mutants are introduced, how are we going to appreciate the turn in public opinion when that opinion was never firmly established in the first place? Humans characterisation has played a key role in all the Xmen films to harbour a general feeling of anti-mutant sentiment in the world the Xmen live in. From Bobbys parents and brother, to the humans using mutants as slave cage fighters; all depict how untrustworthy mutants are to humans. Where are the humans who show affection or hate to Avengers? Theyve never been shown. When mutants are introduced, why should we care what they think now all of a sudden when we didnt care before. Mcvoy seem worried about philosophy and story telling.
it beyond laughable mcu fans thinks it was done in civil war. if you remember civil war, the story is barely there. it is mention simply in the film, then they have a nonsense comedy fight at the airport scene then it became a cheesy revenge story line.
the fact shows the hated and feared angle is not as deep or as heavy as X2 or DOFP , where the entire world was nealry wiped out and that was the main plot of the story that got more complicated until the end.
some xmen fans who thinks mcu will ditch the mutants philosophy because it is so complicated and can never be solved , I think are right.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 8, 2019 18:01:43 GMT
It's been shown in both Avengers (loved) and AoU (some what hated) and also Civil War (individual hate). Not gonna be too into replying for a bit. Mom had a heart attack and is in the hospital. so sad about your mum, hope she recovers.
to what extent has it been shown in civil ?
civil war folks was not hated because of genetics. also look how civil war quickly disposed how dangerous these people are for a cheap silly revenge story line that turned into a cage match unlike xmen that will make it more about philosophy.
Thanks. Civil War had individual hate from the mom. But then, now that I think about it, the entire movie was about how people felt about them and their methods. The movies are more telling about the US government and military. I think the change for X-men would be more about regular people. |
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Post by summers8 on Feb 8, 2019 18:42:00 GMT
so sad about your mum, hope she recovers.
to what extent has it been shown in civil ?
civil war folks was not hated because of genetics. also look how civil war quickly disposed how dangerous these people are for a cheap silly revenge story line that turned into a cage match unlike xmen that will make it more about philosophy.
Thanks. Civil War had individual hate from the mom. But then, now that I think about it, the entire movie was about how people felt about them and their methods. The movies are more telling about the US government and military. I think the change for X-men would be more about regular people. Just look after your mum. this discussion feels meaningless now. |
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