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Post by movieliker on Feb 15, 2019 18:46:10 GMT
1) I don't know enough about basketball to talk about players. 2) If AD doesn't want to stay in New Orleans, yes, the Pelicans are better off trading him for other good players. I think Pels should have taken Kuzma, Ingram and some other offerings by Lakers. Kuzma is an immense talent. I am getting the impression they are more attracted to trading with Boston than LA. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 18:49:56 GMT
maybe ownerships thought process is a new GM can get AD to stay?
maybe it to squash the displeasure of disgruntled fans?
if that's not the thought process....
think it's a bad look.
I think he's the fall guy.
they're not going to make the playoffs.
do it after the season so the new GM can then take an offer at the Draft or Free Agency period
and if he caved to pressure from the Lakers - It just show that pretty much all of these 'stars' can just make any demand they want.
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Post by Aj_June on Feb 15, 2019 18:50:57 GMT
I think Pels should have taken Kuzma, Ingram and some other offerings by Lakers. Kuzma is an immense talent. I am getting the impression they are more attracted to trading with Boston than LA. That is possible. The problem being that Davis (indirectly through his father) has let it be known that he doesn't want to be in Boston. Of course they can still trade with Boston but there is always more comfort in present value of assets than future value. Means Laker were already giving them a great deal but Boston might give them that at the end of the year. You never know what turns out with Boston given that Boston are one of the contenders. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 18:53:16 GMT
I think Pels should have taken Kuzma, Ingram and some other offerings by Lakers. Kuzma is an immense talent. I am getting the impression they are more attracted to trading with Boston than LA. can somebody school me?
are there no trade clauses in NBA contracts?
mlb - players may have a no trade clause correct? and in some cases state which teams they are willing to play for if a trade comes up?
AD has made it clear he doesn't want to play in Boston apparently over the last two weeks.
could this hold up a deal to Boston - or it's pretty much - 'Too Bad - you're going to Beantown if we get the right package'.
I think the fear for Ainge would be he'd be getting a disgruntled player who doesn't want to play there. Maybe he doesn't care and the thought process would be - you trade for him and maybe he'll fall in love with the city (i.e. what Toronto is hoping with Kawhi)
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Post by Aj_June on Feb 15, 2019 18:58:35 GMT
I am getting the impression they are more attracted to trading with Boston than LA. can somebody school me?
are there no trade clauses in NBA contracts?
mlb - players may have a no trade clause correct? and in some cases state which teams they are willing to play for if a trade comes up?
AD has made it clear he doesn't want to play in Boston apparently over the last two weeks.
could this hold up a deal to Boston - or it's pretty much - 'Too Bad - you're going to Beantown if we get the right package'.
I think the fear for Ainge would be he'd be getting a disgruntled player who doesn't want to play there. Maybe he doesn't care and the thought process would be - you trade for him and maybe he'll fall in love with the city (i.e. what Toronto is hoping with Kawhi)
Can't help you with the clause question but you are spot on about the fear that Ainge may have in taking Anthony. AD could potentially be sulking all through the year and make the whole team bad. All the kids spoiled by Uncle Bron. |
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Post by movieliker on Feb 15, 2019 18:58:40 GMT
I am getting the impression they are more attracted to trading with Boston than LA. That is possible. The problem being that Davis (indirectly through his father) has let it be known that he doesn't want to be in Boston. Of course they can still trade with Boston but there is always more comfort in present value of assets than future value. Means Laker were already giving them a great deal but Boston might give them that at the end of the year. You never know what turns out with Boston given that Boston are one of the contenders. Its being said down here the Pelicans are better off waiting to the end of the season and looking at all offers from every team that might be interested. Than hastefully trading with the Lakers. Also it is being said down here the Laker offer was a trap that would benefit LA and hurt New Orleans. |
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Post by movieliker on Feb 15, 2019 19:02:09 GMT
I am getting the impression they are more attracted to trading with Boston than LA. can somebody school me?
are there no trade clauses in NBA contracts?
mlb - players may have a no trade clause correct? and in some cases state which teams they are willing to play for if a trade comes up?
AD has made it clear he doesn't want to play in Boston apparently over the last two weeks.
could this hold up a deal to Boston - or it's pretty much - 'Too Bad - you're going to Beantown if we get the right package'.
I think the fear for Ainge would be he'd be getting a disgruntled player who doesn't want to play there. Maybe he doesn't care and the thought process would be - you trade for him and maybe he'll fall in love with the city (i.e. what Toronto is hoping with Kawhi)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 19:04:43 GMT
That is possible. The problem being that Davis (indirectly through his father) has let it be known that he doesn't want to be in Boston. Of course they can still trade with Boston but there is always more comfort in present value of assets than future value. Means Laker were already giving them a great deal but Boston might give them that at the end of the year. You never know what turns out with Boston given that Boston are one of the contenders. Its being said down here the Pelicans are better off waiting to the end of the season and looking at all offers from every team that might be interested. Than hastefully trading with the Lakers. Also it is being said down here the Laker offer was a trap that would benefit LA and hurt New Orleans. Who do you want from the Celts
Kyrie is as good as gone in my eyes (probably the Knicks)
Tatum, Brown, Smart, a couple of #1s
So who are they left with on the Celts - AD, Hayward, Terry Rozier and an aging Al Horford? That team is abysmal IMO.
I just can't see Ainge doing this especially if Kyrie bolts - which is why I think this should have been done at the trade deadline for Boston. I think Kyrie walks and they get 'nothing'.
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Post by movieliker on Feb 15, 2019 19:10:05 GMT
They are not saying "parted ways" down here anymore. They are saying he was fired.
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Post by movieliker on Feb 15, 2019 19:10:53 GMT
Its being said down here the Pelicans are better off waiting to the end of the season and looking at all offers from every team that might be interested. Than hastefully trading with the Lakers. Also it is being said down here the Laker offer was a trap that would benefit LA and hurt New Orleans. Who do you want from the Celts
Kyrie is as good as gone in my eyes (probably the Knicks)
Tatum, Brown, Smart, a couple of #1s
So who are they left with on the Celts - AD, Hayward, Terry Rozier and an aging Al Horford? That team is abysmal IMO.
I just can't see Ainge doing this especially if Kyrie bolts - which is why I think this should have been done at the trade deadline for Boston. I think Kyrie walks and they get 'nothing'.
I don't know. All I know is what is being reported down here. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 15, 2019 19:21:33 GMT
I agree and I think that is the reason he is gone. The Lakers offered them the moon and they turned it down out of spite. Not a good look. Could it be that now the owners realised that they made a massive mistake by not accepting Laker's offer and fired him now? I think it is more the why than the what. He decided not to make the trade simply to spite the Lakers. Granted, the Lakers and Rich Paul tried to bully the Pelicans into trading Davis. It was a messed up move. They even created chaos to keep other teams out. I can understand Demps being pissed. Still, he let his emotions get in the way of an amazing deal. All of those young players, picks, and contract buyouts? He was dumb to turn it down. Ownership knows this and he is gone. |
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Feb 15, 2019 20:11:53 GMT
The Pelicans didn't finalize the deal with the Lakers as a slap in the face of LeBron and his overbearing agent. Now, they are looking at grabbing the Knicks #1 from the Celtics to hopefully grab Zion.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 15, 2019 20:16:24 GMT
The Pelicans didn't finalize the deal with the Lakers as a slap in the face of LeBron and his overbearing agent. Now, they are looking at grabbing the Knicks #1 from the Celtics to hopefully grab Zion. C's don't have the Knicks #1. They have the Kings, which I believe is protected if it's #1 overall. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 20:17:43 GMT
If I'm the Knicks and they get that #1?
I roll with that (keeping the #1) and don't even entertain the thought of trading for Davis - and show this to KD and Kyrie
Zion
KD
Kyrie?
That would be some epic fun back in MSG
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 20:19:41 GMT
The Pelicans didn't finalize the deal with the Lakers as a slap in the face of LeBron and his overbearing agent. Now, they are looking at grabbing the Knicks #1 from the Celtics to hopefully grab Zion. C's don't have the Knicks #1. They have the Kings, which I believe is protected if it's #1 overall. Celts get the better of the Kings or Sixers #1 - whichever is better - which is a shame - because that Kings pick was looking oh so sweet - but they've really impressed this year and it may not even be in the lottery if they make the playoffs.
** if the Kings Pick does fall at #1 - yes the Sixers keep it - but right now that has like a 0.001% chance of happening.
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