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Post by Zos on Feb 16, 2019 16:09:56 GMT
You could say the same thing about other sports too like boxing, wrestling and ice hockey. Completely agreed.
Track and Soccer are pretty much 2 sports that 'anybody' could play as a kid - and are non-physical (sorry hardcore soccer fans - we're talking the kids level here)
But what is intriguing to me is - I wonder if baseball will in fact make a comeback over the next decade or so and if parents don't push their children in that direction.
Gotta admit - If I was a parent - I'd have reservations about letting my child wrestle, play football - and would likely push them towards track, soccer, baseball, tennis.......
Is wrestling still a "sport" in US schools? Is it something kids get involved in?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 16:13:00 GMT
Completely agreed.
Track and Soccer are pretty much 2 sports that 'anybody' could play as a kid - and are non-physical (sorry hardcore soccer fans - we're talking the kids level here)
But what is intriguing to me is - I wonder if baseball will in fact make a comeback over the next decade or so and if parents don't push their children in that direction.
Gotta admit - If I was a parent - I'd have reservations about letting my child wrestle, play football - and would likely push them towards track, soccer, baseball, tennis.......
Is wrestling still a "sport" in US schools? Is it something kids get involved in? By my way it is.
Rival high school - poor kid broke his neck and ended up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 16, 2019 16:37:43 GMT
20, 30 years from now, I can see the NFL being made up of nothing but convicts, working off their sentence by agreeing to play football for the masses. Fewer in and fewer families are allowing their kids to play football. Hell, even Trump came out and said that he wouldn't want his kid to play the game. This is slowly becoming a problem for the NFL. But the masses always want blood, so football will still be played, but in more of a "Running Man" kind of deal, it will only be played by convicts and the lowest of the low. Laugh now, but this will happen. I'm laughing now and I'll laugh then. You've obviously never been to Texas if you think parents aren't going to let their boys play football. As for Trump saying he wouldn't let his son play football, Donny has been bitter about being let out of the boys club of the NFL and has spited it for decades. Complete sour grapes on his part. It's lower level Hitler: if the NFL would have let him own the suck-ass Jets, we wouldn't be stuck with the tard (yeah, I know, you're a Trump fan).
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 16, 2019 16:41:02 GMT
Is living with life long pain and brain damage after retirement really worth it? There are tons of players who have gone on after football to have insanely successful careers in politics, law, business, education, entertainment, etc. It's a risk - - like life is. People still ride motorcycles, drink alcohol, eat bad food knowing what could happen to you. Football will be the same.
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Post by sdm3 on Feb 16, 2019 16:45:05 GMT
20, 30 years from now, I can see the NFL being made up of nothing but convicts, working off their sentence by agreeing to play football for the masses. Fewer in and fewer families are allowing their kids to play football. Hell, even Trump came out and said that he wouldn't want his kid to play the game. This is slowly becoming a problem for the NFL. But the masses always want blood, so football will still be played, but in more of a "Running Man" kind of deal, it will only be played by convicts and the lowest of the low. Laugh now, but this will happen. I'm laughing now and I'll laugh then. You've obviously never been to Texas if you think parents aren't going to let their boys play football. As for Trump saying he wouldn't let his son play football, Donny has been bitter about being let out of the boys club of the NFL and has spited it for decades. Complete sour grapes on his part. It's lower level Hitler: if the NFL would have let him own the suck-ass Jets, we wouldn't be stuck with the tard (yeah, I know, you're a Trump fan). Wasn’t it the Bills?
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Post by Zos on Feb 16, 2019 17:04:54 GMT
Is wrestling still a "sport" in US schools? Is it something kids get involved in? By my way it is.
Rival high school - poor kid broke his neck and ended up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
Jesus. I really struggle with the idea of it being a school sport. It's not like you can have a successful career in non fixed wrestling anyway. Unless there is in the US?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 17:13:57 GMT
By my way it is.
Rival high school - poor kid broke his neck and ended up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.
Jesus. I really struggle with the idea of it being a school sport. It's not like you can have a successful career in non fixed wrestling anyway. Unless there is in the US? I never understood it either. But to each their own.
Friends in high school were on the team - I never 'got it'. They'd be running in trash bags at 4:30am to sweat out an extra pound to 'make weight'. Personally I think they did it because the chicks ate it up.
Barbaric IMO - your body gets twisted/contorted in all types of awkward positions.
It's huge at some colleges around here - i.e. the Iowas and Penn States of the world - if memory serves the Big 10 is big into College Wrestling - and if a kid is good enough in high school - I'm sure he can get a scholarship to get all of his tuition (or portion of it) paid for free.
I'm not quite certain if colleges offer full rides to school for wrestling - but it wouldn't shock me - i.e.s the Iowas, Penn States of the world.
After college I'd assume these guys - if they're elite can partake in the Olympics (I know this is a very small percentage) - i.e. they make a life out of it - or some just go into physical fitness jobs - i.e. trainers, coaches.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 16, 2019 18:45:47 GMT
I'm laughing now and I'll laugh then. You've obviously never been to Texas if you think parents aren't going to let their boys play football. As for Trump saying he wouldn't let his son play football, Donny has been bitter about being let out of the boys club of the NFL and has spited it for decades. Complete sour grapes on his part. It's lower level Hitler: if the NFL would have let him own the suck-ass Jets, we wouldn't be stuck with the tard (yeah, I know, you're a Trump fan). Wasn’t it the Bills? He was in the mix for about 10 minutes for the Bills when Ralph Wilson died. The estate didn't want to sell to someone who would move them (Trump would have taken them to NY-NJ in three minutes) and he knew the owners would never let him in the club. Jon Bon Jovi was the other suitor. He said he'd keep the team in Buffalo but he was lying through his teeth.
And owning an NFL team wouldn't have stopped Trumpy from running, The Bills probably would have had to put MAGA on their helmets instead of the charging Buffalo
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Post by WarrenPeace on Feb 16, 2019 20:41:57 GMT
Is living with life long pain and brain damage after retirement really worth it? There are tons of players who have gone on after football to have insanely successful careers in politics, law, business, education, entertainment, etc. It's a risk - - like life is. People still ride motorcycles, drink alcohol, eat bad food knowing what could happen to you. Football will be the same. I believe the majority of players go broke or into debt once they leave the NFL. As for risks we take vs players, that is true. However it's not like we expose ourselves to getting hit after hit after hit, punishing our bodies the way they do. Like one can do that stuff you mentioned and live to a ripe old age with no health problems, as long as they don't get into an accident, drink in moderation or not DUI, and as for eating unhealthy stuff, that might be like playing Russian Roulette but it won't have an immediate impact on the way football can. I see the risks of debt, lifetime pain, and brain injury of football being greater than non players doing everyday things.
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 16, 2019 22:29:22 GMT
There are tons of players who have gone on after football to have insanely successful careers in politics, law, business, education, entertainment, etc. It's a risk - - like life is. People still ride motorcycles, drink alcohol, eat bad food knowing what could happen to you. Football will be the same. I believe the majority of players go broke or into debt once they leave the NFL. As for risks we take vs players, that is true. However it's not like we expose ourselves to getting hit after hit after hit, punishing our bodies the way they do. Like one can do that stuff you mentioned and live to a ripe old age with no health problems, as long as they don't get into an accident, drink in moderation or not DUI, and as for eating unhealthy stuff, that might be like playing Russian Roulette but it won't have an immediate impact on the way football can. I see the risks of debt, lifetime pain, and brain injury of football being greater than non players doing everyday things. Football isn't the reason for the debt - - it's the lack of financial acumen that too many players have. And you need to have that second career to fall back on for most. Playing football gives lots of opportunities; players need to be better able to take advantage of those.
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Post by millar70 on Feb 17, 2019 0:17:51 GMT
20, 30 years from now, I can see the NFL being made up of nothing but convicts, working off their sentence by agreeing to play football for the masses. Fewer in and fewer families are allowing their kids to play football. Hell, even Trump came out and said that he wouldn't want his kid to play the game. This is slowly becoming a problem for the NFL. But the masses always want blood, so football will still be played, but in more of a "Running Man" kind of deal, it will only be played by convicts and the lowest of the low. Laugh now, but this will happen. I'm laughing now and I'll laugh then. You've obviously never been to Texas if you think parents aren't going to let their boys play football. As for Trump saying he wouldn't let his son play football, Donny has been bitter about being let out of the boys club of the NFL and has spited it for decades. Complete sour grapes on his part. It's lower level Hitler: if the NFL would have let him own the suck-ass Jets, we wouldn't be stuck with the tard (yeah, I know, you're a Trump fan). Trust me, I don't want political discussion on this thread, but even when talking about owning a football team, you compare Trump to Hitler?!? I might be dumb for not understanding parents in Texas, but you're not too bright in your understanding of Adolf Hitler. 😉
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