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Post by dazz on Feb 19, 2019 18:01:15 GMT
But that's also why people care about the reviews it's not up their own arse shitheads who look down on something because oh it's just a comic book movie, oh look talking cares how laughable, it's more normal people who have the same affinity for stuff like this and a similar type of taste as you do.
Look at how many huge money series there have been that have little positive reception among "authentic" critics, people don't care what stuck up WAFFLEs think nor do they care what random fuck knuckle in asshat Indiana thinks, they look at what the people they know or like think and judge based on that.
Which isn't to say these people aren't legit, they just like geek culture is all, which is where you can see a difference between the critics and their fans, I like a few youtube critics, but you watch them and you see the difference between the ones who are the critics who get invited to the screenings and the ones who aren't and are on the shows because they work for the company in other ways.
But yeah a lot of them do go over the fucking top a lot, no doubt but that's not just Disney all the companies do it, and not just for movies, game companies invite well known online critics/fans to go and play their games early, they pick those who are fans because they best represent the audience the games are aimed at, no one is inviting a gamer who hates blood and violence and heavily loves Dance Dance Revolution to go and play and review the new bloody Mortal Kombat game, I mean how many KKK card carry members got invited to review Black Panther before it came out? probably none because they know this shit aint got a hope in hell of a good review, that's just sense.
Target audience-like critics are fine, but they are bound to give these Marvel movies in particular a better review than others. We should be aiming for neutrality from a critical consensus. Now you cant force these geek circle reviewer's to tone down their biases, they will more often than not show loyality which is why they keep getting invited by Disney-Marvel to every new early release. But having critics from a wider variety of backgrounds at early press screenings would showcase a truer reflection on the movie. Not just through the eyes of someone like Charlie aka Emergency Awesome. I know its not just Disney doing this as you pointed out a lot of game companies hand pick game reviewers too. I just find the whole idea of this "early reactions are in - and they are amazing" scheme a con. Its the closest thing youl get to Disney paid off the critics- which I never believed btw But as pointed out it's not just the geek culture critics that like the movie, when the normal reviews are up you see a huge number of "real" critics also praising the movie, which tracks regardless of which metric you think to use, unless you say all the aggregator sights are equally biased which WB & Universal own RT but somehow Disney still regularly score high on.
It's not who reviews what, now maybe the geek culture lovers outweigh the more balanced reviews in social media reviews because they maybe more aligned to use such things being they make their name online more than in paper, so it seems like an imbalance, I generally dislike the social media things though as it's not long enough to properly review anything and as such people tend to go over board with the hyperbole, which I think is a fair issue, but it is one for everything, not just pro Disney or pro this reviews, but in the negative ones also.
It's the thing now nothing can just be good, it has to be the greatest thing ever or the dizzling shits, people just don't know what anything means these days either, imo Black Panther is one of the most overrated movies of all time, not just CBM's but movies in general...that doesn't mean I am saying it's bad though, just overrated, it's a good film with some questionable choices in the story with god awful cgi in it, but a lot of positives to outweigh the negatives overall, it is not the be all and end all that so many made it out to be, but you say that and people think oh why do you hate Black Panther...I don't I just think it's overrated learn what words mean you fucking morons.
Same goes for people using mediocre as an insult, that means it's fine, nothing special whatever, mediocre doesn't mean it was horrible, you should avoid at all cost but the amount of people who use it as such is baffling.
As for the companies looking for a biased perspective, yeah but they all do that, that's what everything press related is about, that's why they get free screenings, I think they get free popcorn also bastards, it's done to take off as many negatives of the experience as possible if you paid $12 to see a movie and it was mediocre, plus another $12 for food and drink you are more likely to think well that was a waste, but if you got it all for free you are more inclined to think ah nothing special but still enjoyable, same thing when press send someone to a show to talk about their movie, youtube show or national Tv doesn't matter they will lick the crack of that guest until their tongue turns to sandpaper because they didn't come there to be insulted and their work knocked, and no one is going to do so in fear the actor, director, publicist or studio get a bug up their arse over it and refuse to work with them in future.
It's all done and designed to get people to go to see these movies, no matter what movie it is, it's all a con because the creators need the critics but the critics need the creators so it's all done to hopefully propagate business and a healthy system where they can all keep making money.
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 19, 2019 18:07:11 GMT
If early reviews praised the movie and then later reviews gave you a lower score, you would have a point. However, they do not and you do not. The movies are praised early and late because, get this, they are typically very well done. Dont they? Early tomatoemeter scores are usually exceedingly high for most movies and generally decline as more wider array of critics start publishing their reviews and scores. They decline slightly, sometimes even raise. Almost all MCU movies were HIGHLY praised. |
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Post by bud47 on Feb 19, 2019 18:07:26 GMT
And you're going to make everyone aware and that's going to change what exactly? To stop believing the inevitable OTT hype thats gonna hit when the embargo lifts tonight. This thread isnt for MCU diehards who will eat anything thrown at them like every one whose replied so far. Its for those who are passive fans that will get tricked by Disney into believing Captain Marvel is a must watch movie of 2019 because a bunch of sweetened up reviewers said so. Its disingenuous. LOL tricked by Disney. We get it. You hate Disney, the big evil corporation. That's basically what it all comes down to with you, right? Your efforts won't make any difference. The reviews will come out, people will see the film (or they won't), it will make money. All you're doing is blowing off steam and stomping your feet over a film franchise and studio that you despise (for having stolen the success and praise from your beloved Fox-Men films), yet for some reason, still force yourself to watch, I guess for the sole purpose of complaining. |
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Post by merh on Feb 19, 2019 18:49:47 GMT
Which strangely is also the same crop of critics that also get to see most of the big blockbuster releases and yet give much less glowing reviews on average to the DC films, or Transformer movies, hell even the latest Potter films...almost as if they can discern quality despite their fandom  Also they do include critics from elsewhere except they don't have pure press screenings like those in NY or LA can attend due to smaller number of critics and more limited cinema selections available outside a LA or NY by comparison, so it can be harder for a critic to make those screenings or have the same experience. I dont think they are the same but ill look into it Top critics are top critics 5 out of 44 were rotten. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 19, 2019 19:56:25 GMT
That's a lot of top critics.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 19, 2019 20:38:38 GMT
These nerd bloggers are generally dimwits who are easily pleased. If that were true wouldn't they give good reviews to all the geek culture movies? |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 19, 2019 20:42:00 GMT
These nerd bloggers are generally dimwits who are easily pleased. If that were true wouldn't they give good reviews to all the geek culture movies? Did I just here a mic drop? |
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 19, 2019 21:09:05 GMT
If that were true wouldn't they give good reviews to all the geek culture movies? Did I just here a mic drop? Actually that was your trousers for Mickey Mouse’s penis. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 19, 2019 21:33:49 GMT
Did I just here a mic drop? Actually that was your trousers for Mickey Mouse’s penis. You're hilarious! But what's your explanation for why these easily pleased nerd blogger dimwits don't like all of the comic book movies that you like?
Let me guess, your comic book superhero movies are too sophisticated for them, right?
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 19, 2019 21:42:23 GMT
These nerd bloggers are generally dimwits who are easily pleased. Yeah, early reviews of Batman v. Superman and Justice League were saying it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. |
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 19, 2019 22:35:57 GMT
These nerd bloggers are generally dimwits who are easily pleased. Yeah, early reviews of Batman v. Superman and Justice League were saying it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Save... MARTHA!!! |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 19, 2019 23:14:49 GMT
Yeah, early reviews of Batman v. Superman and Justice League were saying it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Save... MARTHA!!! WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME??! |
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Post by NormanClature on Feb 19, 2019 23:29:10 GMT
I hope it gets 90%+ approval on RT and massively underperforms at the BO anyway. Then maybe Hollywood will get the message that they can take their SJW BS and shove it up their ass.  |
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 19, 2019 23:47:30 GMT
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME??! Lesson from 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice' - a single 3rd act fiasco can ruin an entire film. |
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 20, 2019 0:06:41 GMT
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME??! Lesson from 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice' - a single 3rd act fiasco can ruin an entire film. Pretty sure IM3 already proved that theory. |
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 20, 2019 0:55:53 GMT
Lesson from 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice' - a single 3rd act fiasco can ruin an entire film. Pretty sure IM3 already proved that theory. I still think Martha thing is much worse. |
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 20, 2019 1:29:32 GMT
Pretty sure IM3 already proved that theory. I still think Martha thing is much worse. Oh definitely. At least the Mandarin twist was done in jest whereas we were supposed to take the Martha scene seriously. |
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Post by politicidal on Feb 20, 2019 1:37:15 GMT
Disney: "The jig is up! They cracked the case!"
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Post by dazz on Feb 20, 2019 4:20:01 GMT
I still think Martha thing is much worse. Oh definitely. At least the Mandarin twist was done in jest whereas we were supposed to take the Martha scene seriously. So what you are saying is the Mandarin reveal got a response such as this.
If albeit briefly where as MARTHA!! was received more like this...
Seems about right.
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Post by poutinep on Feb 20, 2019 5:21:54 GMT
Then maybe Hollywood will get the message that they can take their SJW BS and shove it up their ass. What's this even mean? How is Captain Marvel any more social justice-y than any other super hero movie? what the hell is wrong with social justice? |
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