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Post by WullieFort on Feb 25, 2019 19:26:07 GMT
finished last night. I'm not going to spoil it for those who haven't seen the last few episodes but am confused about what happened to Hays and his wife. Help.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 25, 2019 19:38:59 GMT
finished last night. I'm not going to spoil it for those who haven't seen the last few episodes but am confused about what happened to Hays and his wife. Help. They split and got back together.
I want to know what was up with the final shot
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Post by WullieFort on Feb 25, 2019 19:47:49 GMT
So where was she at the end? I didn't get that final scene either
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Post by orlandogardner on Feb 25, 2019 19:49:27 GMT
finished last night. I'm not going to spoil it for those who haven't seen the last few episodes but am confused about what happened to Hays and his wife. Help. Haven't caught S3 as yet. How does it rate compared to both S1 & S2?
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 25, 2019 19:57:23 GMT
So where was she at the end? I didn't get that final scene either I never had luck with the spoiler feature, so, y'all were warned...
At the end where Hays is sitting on the porch with his kids and Roland? Dead. She died somewhere between 1990 and 2014.
I've seen some say Hays dies in Vietnam and this was all a fantasy. Bull. Just assuming his dementia was taking him back to the jungle.
I liked the ending except for the book falling open to the exact page Hays needed to dot all the "i's" and cross all the "t's". He solved the case, found Julie and the dementia took it away.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Feb 25, 2019 22:45:38 GMT
finished last night. I'm not going to spoil it for those who haven't seen the last few episodes but am confused about what happened to Hays and his wife. Help. Haven't caught S3 as yet. How does it rate compared to both S1 & S2? Probably best one so far. s1 was terrific but I think s3 just shades it. Ali's a great actor but I wish he didn't mumble so much. Dorff was terrific too. s2 was way below s1 and s3 in terms of acting/plot/entertainment value etc. etc.
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Post by orlandogardner on Feb 26, 2019 0:52:40 GMT
Haven't caught S3 as yet. How does it rate compared to both S1 & S2? Probably best one so far. s1 was terrific but I think s3 just shades it. Ali's a great actor but I wish he didn't mumble so much. Dorff was terrific too. s2 was way below s1 and s3 in terms of acting/plot/entertainment value etc. etc. Oh really? That's great so, season one was so good.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Feb 26, 2019 1:03:33 GMT
Probably best one so far. s1 was terrific but I think s3 just shades it. Ali's a great actor but I wish he didn't mumble so much. Dorff was terrific too. s2 was way below s1 and s3 in terms of acting/plot/entertainment value etc. etc. Oh really? That's great so, season one was so good. Yes, pretty sure you'll really enjoy S3.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 26, 2019 3:17:20 GMT
finished last night. I'm not going to spoil it for those who haven't seen the last few episodes but am confused about what happened to Hays and his wife. Help. They split and got back together.
I want to know what was up with the final shot
I think the final shot was supposed to be a metaphor for Hays completely succumbing to his dementia. That's how I read it, anyway. Overall a great season, a true return to form. Strangely similar to season 1 in that the finale is a bit underwhelming and ends on a more positive note than you'd expect for such a dark storyline. However, unlike season 1 which uncovers a broad conspiracy that the protagonists cannot completely bring down, season 3 hints at a larger conspiracy and reveals a very straightforward, personal story at the end.
It's for the best that he couldn't reveal the truth about Julie to anyone else, though it's a shame he couldn't quite get the satisfaction of solving the case before his condition got the better of him even if we, the audience do. Ultimately it was better for her that he couldn't share that information with anyone else, anyway. Though you have to wonder what his son will do with that address since you see him put it back in his pocket instead of throwing it away. Loved the way they ended it with Hays disappearing into the jungle. As with any great show you're always sad to see it go, but I'm really going to miss this world. It's awesome that they found a way to connect it to season 1, even as a throwaway reference in the middle of the season. The writing and the performances were amazing from start to finish, I hope we get a season 4 on par with 1 & 3, I think we can all agree that season 2 never happened.
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Post by fjenkins on Mar 5, 2019 16:02:21 GMT
finished last night. I'm not going to spoil it for those who haven't seen the last few episodes but am confused about what happened to Hays and his wife. Help. Haven't caught S3 as yet. How does it rate compared to both S1 & S2? SPOILERS: I just finished this last night and I have to say, it was a pile of shit. I don't get the praise for this. I think because season 2 was the worst ever, people were just happy to see anything better but this was goddamned terrible. Starts out okay and by episode 4 I was bored stiff. It's a 2 hour movie dragged out over 8 episodes. There are long boring passages of dialog that don't advance the story in anyway, or even the characters. The constant time changing was getting annoying and after a while they were just doing it to be "cool." (the driving the car in episode 8 and swinging between periods over and over which literally meant nothing). Pretentious people claim "you just don't get it." No, I get it. And it was pointless and stupid. And then the conclusion and you're going "that's it? All that for that?" Fucking awful. What a let down.
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Post by Zos on Mar 5, 2019 16:22:41 GMT
finished last night. I'm not going to spoil it for those who haven't seen the last few episodes but am confused about what happened to Hays and his wife. Help. Haven't caught S3 as yet. How does it rate compared to both S1 & S2? 1 is best 2 is muddled unwatchable mess 3 is very good just below the 1st series imho.
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Post by fjenkins on Mar 5, 2019 17:24:20 GMT
Haven't caught S3 as yet. How does it rate compared to both S1 & S2? 1 is best 2 is muddled unwatchable mess 3 is very good just below the 1st series imho. 1 is best 2 is muddled unwatchable mess 3 is muddled unwatchable mess
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 5, 2019 17:34:01 GMT
Haven't caught S3 as yet. How does it rate compared to both S1 & S2? SPOILERS: I just finished this last night and I have to say, it was a pile of shit. I don't get the praise for this. I think because season 2 was the worst ever, people were just happy to see anything better but this was goddamned terrible. Starts out okay and by episode 4 I was bored stiff. It's a 2 hour movie dragged out over 8 episodes. There are long boring passages of dialog that don't advance the story in anyway, or even the characters. The constant time changing was getting annoying and after a while they were just doing it to be "cool." (the driving the car in episode 8 and swinging between periods over and over which literally meant nothing). Pretentious people claim "you just don't get it." No, I get it. And it was pointless and stupid. And then the conclusion and you're going "that's it? All that for that?" Fucking awful. What a let down. You just don't get it. Seriously though, I hear what you're saying (even though I personally thought it was great). Nonlinear storytelling has often been a way of saying, "This story is actually pretty bland if we use the straightforward approach, so let's just muddle up the timeline and we'll have a mystery on our hands." But the acting is off the charts on this show, and I liked the twist of building a huge conspiracy and revealing a basic kidnapping; especially considering it's the opposite of season one. It's a rare example of subverting expectations in a way that actually makes the story more compelling (well at least for me, clearly not for you).
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Post by Zos on Mar 5, 2019 17:53:11 GMT
1 is best 2 is muddled unwatchable mess 3 is very good just below the 1st series imho. 1 is best 2 is muddled unwatchable mess 3 is muddled unwatchable mess I think the latest series getsg slightly muddled but with the 3 time frame switches close attention is needed, TV has become so low attention that people tend to watch shows with only half their attention totally on it. I thought it very well acted and cleverly scripted although the outcome was slightly banal, but then again so is life.
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Post by fjenkins on Mar 5, 2019 19:03:56 GMT
SPOILERS: I just finished this last night and I have to say, it was a pile of shit. I don't get the praise for this. I think because season 2 was the worst ever, people were just happy to see anything better but this was goddamned terrible. Starts out okay and by episode 4 I was bored stiff. It's a 2 hour movie dragged out over 8 episodes. There are long boring passages of dialog that don't advance the story in anyway, or even the characters. The constant time changing was getting annoying and after a while they were just doing it to be "cool." (the driving the car in episode 8 and swinging between periods over and over which literally meant nothing). Pretentious people claim "you just don't get it." No, I get it. And it was pointless and stupid. And then the conclusion and you're going "that's it? All that for that?" Fucking awful. What a let down. You just don't get it. Seriously though, I hear what you're saying (even though I personally thought it was great). Nonlinear storytelling has often been a way of saying, "This story is actually pretty bland if we use the straightforward approach, so let's just muddle up the timeline and we'll have a mystery on our hands." But the acting is off the charts on this show, and I liked the twist of building a huge conspiracy and revealing a basic kidnapping; especially considering it's the opposite of season one. It's a rare example of subverting expectations in a way that actually makes the story more compelling (well at least for me, clearly not for you). The story itself wasn't strong enough for nonlinear storytelling. It was severely weak. It all leads up to the guy with one eye telling us everything. Long drawn out repetitious conversations throughout, long boring scenes and we end with a guy telling us what happened. Really disappointing, I'm mad at myself for sitting through all 8 hours of it when simply jumping to the end would have saved a lot of time.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 5, 2019 19:26:40 GMT
You just don't get it. Seriously though, I hear what you're saying (even though I personally thought it was great). Nonlinear storytelling has often been a way of saying, "This story is actually pretty bland if we use the straightforward approach, so let's just muddle up the timeline and we'll have a mystery on our hands." But the acting is off the charts on this show, and I liked the twist of building a huge conspiracy and revealing a basic kidnapping; especially considering it's the opposite of season one. It's a rare example of subverting expectations in a way that actually makes the story more compelling (well at least for me, clearly not for you). The story itself wasn't strong enough for nonlinear storytelling. It was severely weak. It all leads up to the guy with one eye telling us everything. Long drawn out repetitious conversations throughout, long boring scenes and we end with a guy telling us what happened. Really disappointing, I'm mad at myself for sitting through all 8 hours of it when simply jumping to the end would have saved a lot of time. Ironically this is the same reason I gave up on Westworld season 2. No real story, just a bunch of time jumps to disguise the fact that nothing interesting or original is going on. What can I say, the performances really made True Detective for me even if the ending was underwhelming.
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Post by fjenkins on Mar 5, 2019 19:35:23 GMT
The story itself wasn't strong enough for nonlinear storytelling. It was severely weak. It all leads up to the guy with one eye telling us everything. Long drawn out repetitious conversations throughout, long boring scenes and we end with a guy telling us what happened. Really disappointing, I'm mad at myself for sitting through all 8 hours of it when simply jumping to the end would have saved a lot of time. Ironically this is the same reason I gave up on Westworld season 2. No real story, just a bunch of time jumps to disguise the fact that nothing interesting or original is going on. What can I say, the performances really made True Detective for me even if the ending was underwhelming. Agreed, Westworld 2 was dreadful, I literally couldn't finish, although I thought the first season was pretentious and made up as they went along as well.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 5, 2019 20:12:25 GMT
I guess there will be a season 4 of Fargo. Loved Season 1 and 2, 3, not as much.
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Post by fjenkins on Mar 6, 2019 19:25:28 GMT
I guess there will be a season 4 of Fargo. Loved Season 1 and 2, 3, not as much. Fargo was tremendous, each season was better than the last. Love that show, especially the last season.
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