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Post by Skaathar on Feb 26, 2019 0:20:17 GMT
A few months ago Feige mentioned that CM would be the most powerful hero they've introduced in the MCU. Now that statement could have been interpreted in many ways. It could have meant she was simply the most powerful hero in an origin story, as most of the heroes get stronger in succeeding movies like Dr. Strange and Thor. So she might be the strongest character in an origin story but not overall. It could have also meant she was the strongest hero but not as strong as some of the villains. In a recent interview however, it seems Feige has confirmed that Captain Marvel truly will be the strongest character in the MCU. Period. "...she’s one of the most powerful characters in the comics and will be the most powerful character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe."He also mentions again how she'll be the MCU's new flagship character. I mean, not that we didn't already know this, but he now confirms it without a doubt. "...not just for how audiences are going to embrace Brie as this character, but also for how Captain Marvel is about to take the lead and be at the forefront of the entire Cinematic Universe." Here's the link to the article and the video of Feige's interview: cosmicbook.news/captain-marvel-thanos-kevin-feigeAnyway... thoughts?
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Post by NormanClature on Feb 26, 2019 0:27:26 GMT
A few months ago Feige mentioned that CM would be the most powerful hero they've introduced in the MCU. Now that statement could have been interpreted in many ways. It could have meant she was simply the most powerful hero in an origin story, as most of the heroes get stronger in succeeding movies like Dr. Strange and Thor. So she might be the strongest character in an origin story but not overall. It could have also meant she was the strongest hero but not as strong as some of the villains. In a recent interview however, it seems Feige has confirmed that Captain Marvel truly will be the strongest character in the MCU. Period. "...she’s one of the most powerful characters in the comics and will be the most powerful character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe."He also mentions again how she'll be the MCU's new flagship character. I mean, not that we didn't already know this, but he now confirms it without a doubt. "...not just for how audiences are going to embrace Brie as this character, but also for how Captain Marvel is about to take the lead and be at the forefront of the entire Cinematic Universe." Here's the link to the article and the video of Feige's interview: cosmicbook.news/captain-marvel-thanos-kevin-feigeAnyway... thoughts? The MCU could be in real trouble after Endgame. It might be better if they make the X-Men characters their priority.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 26, 2019 0:27:37 GMT
I would had thought either Spider-Man or Black Panther were gonna be the new flagship character. But I guess they gotta one-up Wonder Woman somehow.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 26, 2019 0:31:14 GMT
I would had thought either Spider-Man or Black Panther were gonna be the new flagship character. But I guess they gotta one-up Wonder Woman somehow. In the past, the MCU never announced who their flagship character was. They made the movies, listened to the audience reaction, and promoted those whom the audiences reacted positively the most. I mean, you never heard them declare IM or Captain America to be the flagship characters, they simply started focusing on them more depending on audience demand. It's the same with Dr. Strange, Black Panther and Spiderman. They didn't announce that these three would be the flagship characters of the MCU, but based on how audience reacted to them and how strongly their characters performed we would have assumed that one of them would take the lead. So it feels a bit weird being told that a new character is taking the lead without even knowing if that character is successful or not. It's like being told a fresh grad is being hired to be your manager instead of simply promoting one of your department's top performers for the position.
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Post by NormanClature on Feb 26, 2019 0:39:53 GMT
I would had thought either Spider-Man or Black Panther were gonna be the new flagship character. But I guess they gotta one-up Wonder Woman somehow. In the past, the MCU never announced who their flagship character was. They made the movies, listened to the audience reaction, and promoted those whom the audiences reacted positively the most. I mean, you never heard them declare IM or Captain America to be the flagship characters, they simply started focusing on them more depending on audience demand. It's the same with Dr. Strange, Black Panther and Spiderman. They didn't announce that these three would be the flagship characters of the MCU, but based on how audience reacted to them and how strongly their characters performed we would have assumed that one of them would take the lead. So it feels a bit weird being told that a new character is taking the lead without even knowing if that character is successful or not. It's like being told a fresh grad is being hired to be your manager instead of simply promoting one of your department's top performers for the position. I guess she is so overpowered, how could she be anything else but the figurehead? I foresee problems.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 26, 2019 1:16:43 GMT
I would had thought either Spider-Man or Black Panther were gonna be the new flagship character. But I guess they gotta one-up Wonder Woman somehow. In the past, the MCU never announced who their flagship character was. They made the movies, listened to the audience reaction, and promoted those whom the audiences reacted positively the most. I mean, you never heard them declare IM or Captain America to be the flagship characters, they simply started focusing on them more depending on audience demand. It's the same with Dr. Strange, Black Panther and Spiderman. They didn't announce that these three would be the flagship characters of the MCU, but based on how audience reacted to them and how strongly their characters performed we would have assumed that one of them would take the lead. So it feels a bit weird being told that a new character is taking the lead without even knowing if that character is successful or not. It's like being told a fresh grad is being hired to be your manager instead of simply promoting one of your department's top performers for the position. It's obviously Feige reacting to Wonder Woman again. MCU didn't make a female-led superhero movie for a decade becuase Feige hates female leads in his movies. Then 2 weeks after WB announcsd a Wonder Woman movie, Feige reacts by announcing a Captain Marvel movie. And after Wonder Woman became the 1st great female-led superhero movie, Feige reacts again by naming Captain Marvel (and the polarizing Brie Larson) the future face of MCU. This is the beginning of the fall for MCU.
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Post by poutinep on Feb 26, 2019 1:47:22 GMT
In the past, the MCU never announced who their flagship character was. They made the movies, listened to the audience reaction, and promoted those whom the audiences reacted positively the most. I mean, you never heard them declare IM or Captain America to be the flagship characters, they simply started focusing on them more depending on audience demand. It's the same with Dr. Strange, Black Panther and Spiderman. They didn't announce that these three would be the flagship characters of the MCU, but based on how audience reacted to them and how strongly their characters performed we would have assumed that one of them would take the lead. So it feels a bit weird being told that a new character is taking the lead without even knowing if that character is successful or not. It's like being told a fresh grad is being hired to be your manager instead of simply promoting one of your department's top performers for the position. It's obviously Feige reacting to Wonder Woman again. MCU didn't make a female-led superhero movie for a decade becuase Feige hates female leads in his movies. Then 2 weeks after WB announcsd a Wonder Woman movie, Feige reacts by announcing a Captain Marvel movie. And after Wonder Woman became the 1st great female-led superhero movie, Feige reacts again by naming Captain Marvel (and the polarizing Brie Larson) the future face of MCU. This is the beginning of the fall for MCU. Why would Feige want to emulate the DCEU when the MCU is so much more successful by every metric?
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Feb 26, 2019 3:14:32 GMT
I don’t read much about Carol from the stories I’ve read with her in it she seems to be way below Hulk.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 26, 2019 3:27:47 GMT
I don’t read much about Carol from the stories I’ve read with her in it she seems to be way below Hulk. Are you familiar with Rogue's strength levels? That's pretty much what Captain Marvel is just with energy projection. Strengthwise she's listed at around 50-75 tons (the amount she can carry) whereas guys like Thor and Hulk are considered 100+ tons. Her energy projection does give her some extra oomph though. On average she's usually considered below Scarlet Witch and Dr. Strange in overall power output though her strongest version (Binary) can give regular Thor a good fight. She'd still be curbstomped by Thor's strongest version however. In short, she's a middle-tier powerhouse. Not in the same league as guys like Thor, Hyperion, Gladiator or Silver Surfer.
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Post by janntosh on Feb 26, 2019 5:35:34 GMT
I might be done with the MCU after Endgame then. Guess it's called Endgame for a reason
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 26, 2019 9:01:57 GMT
It's obviously Feige reacting to Wonder Woman again. MCU didn't make a female-led superhero movie for a decade becuase Feige hates female leads in his movies. Then 2 weeks after WB announcsd a Wonder Woman movie, Feige reacts by announcing a Captain Marvel movie. And after Wonder Woman became the 1st great female-led superhero movie, Feige reacts again by naming Captain Marvel (and the polarizing Brie Larson) the future face of MCU. This is the beginning of the fall for MCU. Why would Feige want to emulate the DCEU when the MCU is so much more successful by every metric? DCEU in only its 4th year and 4th movie had the 1st successful female-led superheo movie. MCU after 10+ years and 20 movies still hasn't had a female-led superhero movie. MCU Dictator Kevin Feige wants a total monopoly. That's why Feige is trying to emulate DCEU by making a female-led movie and making Captain Marvel (and the polarizing Brie Larson) the future face of MCU. It's Feige reacting to WB leading the way once again.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 26, 2019 9:04:21 GMT
I don’t read much about Carol from the stories I’ve read with her in it she seems to be way below Hulk. Are you familiar with Rogue's strength levels? That's pretty much what Captain Marvel is just with energy projection. Strengthwise she's listed at around 50-75 tons (the amount she can carry) whereas guys like Thor and Hulk are considered 100+ tons. Her energy projection does give her some extra oomph though. On average she's usually considered below Scarlet Witch and Dr. Strange in overall power output though her strongest version (Binary) can give regular Thor a good fight. She'd still be curbstomped by Thor's strongest version however. In short, she's a middle-tier powerhouse. Not in the same league as guys like Thor, Hyperion, Gladiator or Silver Surfer. So basically MCU Dictator Kevin Feige wants to make Captain Marbel an over-powered Mary Sue who would kick Thor's ass easily.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 26, 2019 9:05:23 GMT
Why would Feige want to emulate the DCEU when the MCU is so much more successful by every metric? DCEU in only its 4th year and 4th movie had the 1st successful female-led superheo movie. MCU after 10+ years and 20 movies still hasn't had a female-led superhero movie. MCU Dictator Kevin Feige wants a total monopoly. That's why Feige is trying to emulate DCEU by making a female-led movie and making Captain Marvel (and the polarizing Brie Larson) the future face of MCU. It's Feige reacting to WB leading the way once again. But Wonder Woman wasn't the first female led superhero movie. But it's the MCU that was first to the $1 billion club, the first to the $2 billion club, and the first to receive a Best Picture nomination. Not to mention the bigger franchise in terms of box office and critical reviews.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 26, 2019 9:14:57 GMT
DCEU in only its 4th year and 4th movie had the 1st successful female-led superheo movie. MCU after 10+ years and 20 movies still hasn't had a female-led superhero movie. MCU Dictator Kevin Feige wants a total monopoly. That's why Feige is trying to emulate DCEU by making a female-led movie and making Captain Marvel (and the polarizing Brie Larson) the future face of MCU. It's Feige reacting to WB leading the way once again. But Wonder Woman wasn't the first female led superhero movie. But it's the MCU that was first to the $1 billion club, the first to the $2 billion club, and the first to receive a Best Picture nomination. Not to mention the bigger franchise in terms of box office and critical reviews. Wonder Woman was not only the 1st female-led superhero movje in more than a decade (after most studios, including MCU, thougjt a female-led superjero movie couldn't be successful) but also the 1st successful female-led superhero movie. Just as Superman: The Movie paved the way for all big-budget superhero movies (including the entire MCU), Wonder Woman has paved the way for all female-led superhero movies, including Captain Marvel. And DC wad the 1st to the $1 billion club with The Dark Knight, which is still the only CBM to ever win an Oscar in a major (acting, directing, producing, or writing) category.
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Post by scabab on Feb 26, 2019 9:39:29 GMT
Just as Superman: The Movie paved the way for all big-budget superhero movies (including the entire MCU), Wonder Woman has paved the way for all female-led superhero movies, including Captain Marvel. Yeah but that works in reverse too. Had it not been for the success of the MCU then there would never have been a DCEU and there would never have been a Wonder Woman movie. So it all balances out. It may have taken 11 years for the MCU to finally make Captain Marvel but it took DC a total of 39 years to make a Wonder Woman movie.
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Post by sostie on Feb 26, 2019 10:30:20 GMT
But Wonder Woman wasn't the first female led superhero movie. But it's the MCU that was first to the $1 billion club, the first to the $2 billion club, and the first to receive a Best Picture nomination. Not to mention the bigger franchise in terms of box office and critical reviews. Wonder Woman was not only the 1st female-led superhero movje in more than a decade (after most studios, including MCU, thougjt a female-led superjero movie couldn't be successful) but also the 1st successful female-led superhero movie. Yeah well done DC....took them over 25 years to put one of the most famous and recogniseable comic book characters on to the big screen. What trailblazers.
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 26, 2019 11:33:00 GMT
Captain Marysuevel.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 26, 2019 13:01:17 GMT
A few months ago Feige mentioned that CM would be the most powerful hero they've introduced in the MCU. Now that statement could have been interpreted in many ways. It could have meant she was simply the most powerful hero in an origin story, as most of the heroes get stronger in succeeding movies like Dr. Strange and Thor. So she might be the strongest character in an origin story but not overall. It could have also meant she was the strongest hero but not as strong as some of the villains. In a recent interview however, it seems Feige has confirmed that Captain Marvel truly will be the strongest character in the MCU. Period. "...she’s one of the most powerful characters in the comics and will be the most powerful character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe."He also mentions again how she'll be the MCU's new flagship character. I mean, not that we didn't already know this, but he now confirms it without a doubt. "...not just for how audiences are going to embrace Brie as this character, but also for how Captain Marvel is about to take the lead and be at the forefront of the entire Cinematic Universe." Here's the link to the article and the video of Feige's interview: cosmicbook.news/captain-marvel-thanos-kevin-feigeAnyway... thoughts? I still think it's hyperbole on Feige's part. How do you define 'most powerful' hero (and I'm assuming he meant hero, because most powerful character puts her ahead of Thanos, Dormammu, etc. and that wouldn't make sense. We don't even really know if Thor is more powerful than Hulk or if the Hulkbuster can beat Hulk without extenuating circumstances. To flatly state one character is the most powerful takes the fun out of it. I think she may have the most diverse powerset at the end of the day, but 'most powerful' should be a theoretical title no matter who it's given to.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 26, 2019 14:35:41 GMT
Are you familiar with Rogue's strength levels? That's pretty much what Captain Marvel is just with energy projection. Strengthwise she's listed at around 50-75 tons (the amount she can carry) whereas guys like Thor and Hulk are considered 100+ tons. Her energy projection does give her some extra oomph though. On average she's usually considered below Scarlet Witch and Dr. Strange in overall power output though her strongest version (Binary) can give regular Thor a good fight. She'd still be curbstomped by Thor's strongest version however. In short, she's a middle-tier powerhouse. Not in the same league as guys like Thor, Hyperion, Gladiator or Silver Surfer. So basically MCU Dictator Kevin Feige wants to make Captain Marbel an over-powered Mary Sue who would kick Thor's ass easily. Why do you have to hijack every thread and turn it into shit? Are you not capable of having any decent conversation?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 26, 2019 15:51:30 GMT
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