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Post by Skaathar on Mar 9, 2019 7:49:30 GMT
With all the criticisms being thrown at this movie, I watched it with the expectation that I'd find myself shaking my head throughout the movie. That... wasn't the case. Though there are some criticisms that were valid, I found that majority of the fears I had due to the criticisms I read were pretty unwarranted. Here's a list of the criticisms about the movie and what I thought after watching the movie.
1. Captain Marvel is without personality - this one is completely wrong. Carol Danvers in the movie has a lot of personality. I'd even describe her as quirky. Some people have described her character as having similarities with RDJ, I find her more like a toned-down, more serious version of Quill. I do wish she had a bit more intensity though, just a bit more gravity to her character so that she might get scary at times. Still, what we do get with Carol is a character with lots of personality.
2. Captain Marvel is a Mary Sue - also not true. She spends a lot of time getting her ass kicked in this movie and being a bit clueless here and there. The times when she showcases her powers it is properly explained and doesn't just come out of nowhere.
3. Brie Larson is miscast - I was actually one of the people who thought she was completely wrong for the role. Well, I was wrong. She did a good job in this and I enjoyed her portrayal. I still think they could have found someone better (I still would have preferred someone like Blake Lively or Emily Blunt), but as of right now I find her character way more interesting than Scarjo's Black Widow or Saldana's Gamora. So that should tell you she at least did something right.
4. The humor is off - I actually liked the humor in this. It's not as jokey as GOTG and Ragnarok but also a bit funnier than BP or TWS. I'd say the humor is more in common with phase 1 films like Thor and CATFA. So it's funny without being jokey.
5. Action is bland - after watching that train fight sequence I was very fearful that this movie would have awful fight scenes. Again, I was mistaken. While there is not action sequence here that stands out like the highway fight in TWS or the waterfall fight in BP, the fight scenes are still crisp and done properly. I'd put it above GOTG or CATFA.
6. Costume looks frumpy and cheap - I remember seeing those leaked costume pics and thinking it looked like a cheap cosplay. Well, her costume here looked pretty good. Both the greeen/black and the red/blue. There's room for improvement to be sure but it's good enough to be believable alien garb.
7. They're going to cram feminism down my throat - I will admit that there are indeed some feminist-inspired language and scenes in this movie, and some of them are quite heavy-handed. That said, there weren't that many and it didn't distract me from the movie the way I thought it would.
8. This is a mediocre movie - I'd say this was a mediocre MCU movie... but that's different from saying it's a mediocre movie. A mediocre MCU movie means that it's a good, solid film. Maybe not great but definitely better than a lot of DCEU or FOX superhero movies. I'd put it slightly below Dr. Strange but above Antman.
9. Movie is disjointed - yes there's a lot of flashback sequences but the movie is still pretty linear. Not convoluted at all. The main criticism I have for this is that the climax doesn't really climb all that high but that's about it.
10. Brie has a flat ass - I mean, it's not like her ass suddenly became huge and tight in this movie, but it's definitely nowhere near as flat in costume as we saw in that leaked pic. Definitely a non-issue in this movie.
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 9, 2019 8:50:21 GMT
"4. The humor is off - I actually liked the humor in this. It's not as jokey as GOTG and Ragnarok but also a bit funnier than BP or TWS. I'd say the humor is more in common with phase 1 films like Thor and CATFA. So it's funny without being jokey.
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Are there random moments of humor that make no sense?
8. This is a mediocre movie - I'd say this was a mediocre MCU movie... but that's different from saying it's a mediocre movie. A mediocre MCU movie means that it's a good, solid film. Maybe not great but definitely better than a lot of DCEU or FOX superhero movies. I'd put it slightly below Dr. Strange but above Antman.
So in other words its a mediocre movie? Winter Soldier for ex isn't just a good mcu movie its a good movie period
"10. Brie has a flat ass - I mean, it's not like her ass suddenly became huge and tight in this movie, but it's definitely nowhere near as flat in costume as we saw in that leaked pic. Definitely a non-issue in this movie. "
I hears she has a body double lol,
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Mar 9, 2019 10:02:26 GMT
Number 10 isn’t really debatable.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 9, 2019 10:38:52 GMT
I have not seen the movie yet. but it does not surprise me that most of the criticisms are unwarranted.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 9, 2019 11:32:11 GMT
I have not seen the movie yet. but it does not surprise me that most of the criticisms are unwarranted. In his opinion. For someone who keeps banging on about making his own mind up, you seem pretty happy to accept the OP's opinion as Gospel. 
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 9, 2019 11:38:22 GMT
I have not seen the movie yet. but it does not surprise me that most of the criticisms are unwarranted. In his opinion. For someone who keeps banging on about making his own mind up, you seem pretty happy to accept the OP's opinion as Gospel. I said it would not surprise me if it was true, that is not the same as accepting what the OP wrote.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 9, 2019 11:44:26 GMT
In his opinion. For someone who keeps banging on about making his own mind up, you seem pretty happy to accept the OP's opinion as Gospel. I said it would not surprise me if it was true, that is not the same as accepting what the OP wrote. You didn't say, "it would not surprise me." You said, " it does not surprise me." Stop trying to change your own syntax, bro.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 9, 2019 11:59:53 GMT
With all the criticisms being thrown at this movie, I watched it with the expectation that I'd find myself shaking my head throughout the movie. That... wasn't the case. Though there are some criticisms that were valid, I found that majority of the fears I had due to the criticisms I read were pretty unwarranted. Here's a list of the criticisms about the movie and what I thought after watching the movie. 1. Captain Marvel is without personality - this one is completely wrong. Carol Danvers in the movie has a lot of personality. I'd even describe her as quirky. Some people have described her character as having similarities with RDJ, I find her more like a toned-down, more serious version of Quill. I do wish she had a bit more intensity though, just a bit more gravity to her character so that she might get scary at times. Still, what we do get with Carol is a character with lots of personality. 2. Captain Marvel is a Mary Sue - also not true. She spends a lot of time getting her ass kicked in this movie and being a bit clueless here and there. The times when she showcases her powers it is properly explained and doesn't just come out of nowhere. 3. Brie Larson is miscast - I was actually one of the people who thought she was completely wrong for the role. Well, I was wrong. She did a good job in this and I enjoyed her portrayal. I still think they could have found someone better (I still would have preferred someone like Blake Lively or Emily Blunt), but as of right now I find her character way more interesting than Scarjo's Black Widow or Saldana's Gamora. So that should tell you she at least did something right. 4. The humor is off - I actually liked the humor in this. It's not as jokey as GOTG and Ragnarok but also a bit funnier than BP or TWS. I'd say the humor is more in common with phase 1 films like Thor and CATFA. So it's funny without being jokey. 5. Action is bland - after watching that train fight sequence I was very fearful that this movie would have awful fight scenes. Again, I was mistaken. While there is not action sequence here that stands out like the highway fight in TWS or the waterfall fight in BP, the fight scenes are still crisp and done properly. I'd put it above GOTG or CATFA. 6. Costume looks frumpy and cheap - I remember seeing those leaked costume pics and thinking it looked like a cheap cosplay. Well, her costume here looked pretty good. Both the greeen/black and the red/blue. There's room for improvement to be sure but it's good enough to be believable alien garb. 7. They're going to cram feminism down my throat - I will admit that there are indeed some feminist-inspired language and scenes in this movie, and some of them are quite heavy-handed. That said, there weren't that many and it didn't distract me from the movie the way I thought it would. 8. This is a mediocre movie - I'd say this was a mediocre MCU movie... but that's different from saying it's a mediocre movie. A mediocre MCU movie means that it's a good, solid film. Maybe not great but definitely better than a lot of DCEU or FOX superhero movies. I'd put it slightly below Dr. Strange but above Antman. 9. Movie is disjointed - yes there's a lot of flashback sequences but the movie is still pretty linear. Not convoluted at all. The main criticism I have for this is that the climax doesn't really climb all that high but that's about it. 10. Brie has a flat ass - I mean, it's not like her ass suddenly became huge and tight in this movie, but it's definitely nowhere near as flat in costume as we saw in that leaked pic. Definitely a non-issue in this movie. Somone whose opinion I trust, said that she is ridiculously overpowered towards the end of the movie. If that is true, doesn't that concern you going forward?
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Post by Marendil on Mar 9, 2019 12:16:18 GMT
I agree. I liked it and especially Brie as Captain Marvel, she's fun and has a nice smile and funny facial expressions. She also plays professional mode well too, she was not Wonderbitch which is how I recall Carol Danvers from Ms Marvel and her X-men appearances circa UXM #160. Lots of funny little parts, especially with her photon blasts which I found hilarious. Some are at the expense of men, but not overly so.
I have come to despise flashbacks, a legacy of watching "Lost," so some of those irritated me but thankfully they weren't too long and the fact the whole movie was a flashback in a sense was quickly forgotten. The sort of things that bothered me most were along the lines of her modifying a pay phone to place an interstellar call (just what is transmitting the signal here?) and Monica Lambeau being maybe eleven but seeming to remember someone she hasn't seen in six years like they grew up together, why not just make her a high-schooler? Thus mostly nitpicking as opposed to serious problems.
I'm surprised there was much fuss or Brie Larson was concerned about the reactions of 40 year-old men, they're the ones who remember the nineties best and are more inclined to like the soundtrack. Too much praise from the Tide-pod Jezabel generation is a far greater concern for the success of the movie.
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Post by Marendil on Mar 9, 2019 12:23:18 GMT
With all the criticisms being thrown at this movie, I watched it with the expectation that I'd find myself shaking my head throughout the movie. That... wasn't the case. Though there are some criticisms that were valid, I found that majority of the fears I had due to the criticisms I read were pretty unwarranted. Here's a list of the criticisms about the movie and what I thought after watching the movie. 1. Captain Marvel is without personality - this one is completely wrong. Carol Danvers in the movie has a lot of personality. I'd even describe her as quirky. Some people have described her character as having similarities with RDJ, I find her more like a toned-down, more serious version of Quill. I do wish she had a bit more intensity though, just a bit more gravity to her character so that she might get scary at times. Still, what we do get with Carol is a character with lots of personality. 2. Captain Marvel is a Mary Sue - also not true. She spends a lot of time getting her ass kicked in this movie and being a bit clueless here and there. The times when she showcases her powers it is properly explained and doesn't just come out of nowhere. 3. Brie Larson is miscast - I was actually one of the people who thought she was completely wrong for the role. Well, I was wrong. She did a good job in this and I enjoyed her portrayal. I still think they could have found someone better (I still would have preferred someone like Blake Lively or Emily Blunt), but as of right now I find her character way more interesting than Scarjo's Black Widow or Saldana's Gamora. So that should tell you she at least did something right. 4. The humor is off - I actually liked the humor in this. It's not as jokey as GOTG and Ragnarok but also a bit funnier than BP or TWS. I'd say the humor is more in common with phase 1 films like Thor and CATFA. So it's funny without being jokey. 5. Action is bland - after watching that train fight sequence I was very fearful that this movie would have awful fight scenes. Again, I was mistaken. While there is not action sequence here that stands out like the highway fight in TWS or the waterfall fight in BP, the fight scenes are still crisp and done properly. I'd put it above GOTG or CATFA. 6. Costume looks frumpy and cheap - I remember seeing those leaked costume pics and thinking it looked like a cheap cosplay. Well, her costume here looked pretty good. Both the greeen/black and the red/blue. There's room for improvement to be sure but it's good enough to be believable alien garb. 7. They're going to cram feminism down my throat - I will admit that there are indeed some feminist-inspired language and scenes in this movie, and some of them are quite heavy-handed. That said, there weren't that many and it didn't distract me from the movie the way I thought it would. 8. This is a mediocre movie - I'd say this was a mediocre MCU movie... but that's different from saying it's a mediocre movie. A mediocre MCU movie means that it's a good, solid film. Maybe not great but definitely better than a lot of DCEU or FOX superhero movies. I'd put it slightly below Dr. Strange but above Antman. 9. Movie is disjointed - yes there's a lot of flashback sequences but the movie is still pretty linear. Not convoluted at all. The main criticism I have for this is that the climax doesn't really climb all that high but that's about it. 10. Brie has a flat ass - I mean, it's not like her ass suddenly became huge and tight in this movie, but it's definitely nowhere near as flat in costume as we saw in that leaked pic. Definitely a non-issue in this movie. Somone whose opinion I trust, said that she is ridiculously overpowered towards the end of the movie. If that is true, doesn't that concern you going forward? What did she do that was so overpowered at the end? I recall her having to use one ISBM to destroy the rest, she didn't vaporize the whole volley or anything. It is funny how people go flying from her photon blasts, but they survive it.
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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 9, 2019 12:32:49 GMT
With all the criticisms being thrown at this movie, I watched it with the expectation that I'd find myself shaking my head throughout the movie. That... wasn't the case. Though there are some criticisms that were valid, I found that majority of the fears I had due to the criticisms I read were pretty unwarranted. Here's a list of the criticisms about the movie and what I thought after watching the movie. 1. Captain Marvel is without personality - this one is completely wrong. Carol Danvers in the movie has a lot of personality. I'd even describe her as quirky. Some people have described her character as having similarities with RDJ, I find her more like a toned-down, more serious version of Quill. I do wish she had a bit more intensity though, just a bit more gravity to her character so that she might get scary at times. Still, what we do get with Carol is a character with lots of personality. 2. Captain Marvel is a Mary Sue - also not true. She spends a lot of time getting her ass kicked in this movie and being a bit clueless here and there. The times when she showcases her powers it is properly explained and doesn't just come out of nowhere. 3. Brie Larson is miscast - I was actually one of the people who thought she was completely wrong for the role. Well, I was wrong. She did a good job in this and I enjoyed her portrayal. I still think they could have found someone better (I still would have preferred someone like Blake Lively or Emily Blunt), but as of right now I find her character way more interesting than Scarjo's Black Widow or Saldana's Gamora. So that should tell you she at least did something right. 4. The humor is off - I actually liked the humor in this. It's not as jokey as GOTG and Ragnarok but also a bit funnier than BP or TWS. I'd say the humor is more in common with phase 1 films like Thor and CATFA. So it's funny without being jokey. 5. Action is bland - after watching that train fight sequence I was very fearful that this movie would have awful fight scenes. Again, I was mistaken. While there is not action sequence here that stands out like the highway fight in TWS or the waterfall fight in BP, the fight scenes are still crisp and done properly. I'd put it above GOTG or CATFA. 6. Costume looks frumpy and cheap - I remember seeing those leaked costume pics and thinking it looked like a cheap cosplay. Well, her costume here looked pretty good. Both the greeen/black and the red/blue. There's room for improvement to be sure but it's good enough to be believable alien garb. 7. They're going to cram feminism down my throat - I will admit that there are indeed some feminist-inspired language and scenes in this movie, and some of them are quite heavy-handed. That said, there weren't that many and it didn't distract me from the movie the way I thought it would. 8. This is a mediocre movie - I'd say this was a mediocre MCU movie... but that's different from saying it's a mediocre movie. A mediocre MCU movie means that it's a good, solid film. Maybe not great but definitely better than a lot of DCEU or FOX superhero movies. I'd put it slightly below Dr. Strange but above Antman. 9. Movie is disjointed - yes there's a lot of flashback sequences but the movie is still pretty linear. Not convoluted at all. The main criticism I have for this is that the climax doesn't really climb all that high but that's about it. 10. Brie has a flat ass - I mean, it's not like her ass suddenly became huge and tight in this movie, but it's definitely nowhere near as flat in costume as we saw in that leaked pic. Definitely a non-issue in this movie. Somone whose opinion I trust, said that she is ridiculously overpowered towards the end of the movie. If that is true, doesn't that concern you going forward? I wouldn't call her ridiculously overpowered. Unless you think Thor is/was ridiculously so. This is just my opinion, but I think by the end she was around Thor with Moljnir. She is less than Thor with Odin Force in Ragnarok minus Moljnir. And definitely less powerful than Thor with Odin Force and Stormbreaker in Infinity War. Now her full power was new to her so she made mistakes with it in 90's CM, so she may be around Thor with Odin Force in present day End Game. (Another Maybe we'll have to wait is. She maybe closer to Thor + OF + SB now if she has tech. She does have access to alien tech for 20+ years and training.) Being OP can be a problem, but it also doesn't have to be. I thought Thor has always been a close to OP with not much negatives (Hulk is OP, but has the blind rage/stupidity trade off. If Professor Hulk rumors then a lot of the negatives will be gone though in IW), but if written right doesn't matter. It's all how they deal with it, honestly. Superman is the definition of OP but written well can still have a compelling story.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 9, 2019 12:44:31 GMT
With all the criticisms being thrown at this movie, I watched it with the expectation that I'd find myself shaking my head throughout the movie. That... wasn't the case. Though there are some criticisms that were valid, I found that majority of the fears I had due to the criticisms I read were pretty unwarranted. Here's a list of the criticisms about the movie and what I thought after watching the movie. 1. Captain Marvel is without personality - this one is completely wrong. Carol Danvers in the movie has a lot of personality. I'd even describe her as quirky. Some people have described her character as having similarities with RDJ, I find her more like a toned-down, more serious version of Quill. I do wish she had a bit more intensity though, just a bit more gravity to her character so that she might get scary at times. Still, what we do get with Carol is a character with lots of personality. 2. Captain Marvel is a Mary Sue - also not true. She spends a lot of time getting her ass kicked in this movie and being a bit clueless here and there. The times when she showcases her powers it is properly explained and doesn't just come out of nowhere. 3. Brie Larson is miscast - I was actually one of the people who thought she was completely wrong for the role. Well, I was wrong. She did a good job in this and I enjoyed her portrayal. I still think they could have found someone better (I still would have preferred someone like Blake Lively or Emily Blunt), but as of right now I find her character way more interesting than Scarjo's Black Widow or Saldana's Gamora. So that should tell you she at least did something right. 4. The humor is off - I actually liked the humor in this. It's not as jokey as GOTG and Ragnarok but also a bit funnier than BP or TWS. I'd say the humor is more in common with phase 1 films like Thor and CATFA. So it's funny without being jokey. 5. Action is bland - after watching that train fight sequence I was very fearful that this movie would have awful fight scenes. Again, I was mistaken. While there is not action sequence here that stands out like the highway fight in TWS or the waterfall fight in BP, the fight scenes are still crisp and done properly. I'd put it above GOTG or CATFA. 6. Costume looks frumpy and cheap - I remember seeing those leaked costume pics and thinking it looked like a cheap cosplay. Well, her costume here looked pretty good. Both the greeen/black and the red/blue. There's room for improvement to be sure but it's good enough to be believable alien garb. 7. They're going to cram feminism down my throat - I will admit that there are indeed some feminist-inspired language and scenes in this movie, and some of them are quite heavy-handed. That said, there weren't that many and it didn't distract me from the movie the way I thought it would. 8. This is a mediocre movie - I'd say this was a mediocre MCU movie... but that's different from saying it's a mediocre movie. A mediocre MCU movie means that it's a good, solid film. Maybe not great but definitely better than a lot of DCEU or FOX superhero movies. I'd put it slightly below Dr. Strange but above Antman. 9. Movie is disjointed - yes there's a lot of flashback sequences but the movie is still pretty linear. Not convoluted at all. The main criticism I have for this is that the climax doesn't really climb all that high but that's about it. 10. Brie has a flat ass - I mean, it's not like her ass suddenly became huge and tight in this movie, but it's definitely nowhere near as flat in costume as we saw in that leaked pic. Definitely a non-issue in this movie. Somone whose opinion I trust, said that she is ridiculously overpowered towards the end of the movie. If that is true, doesn't that concern you going forward? Doctor Strange, Wanda and Thor could all give her a run for her money in my opinion.
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Post by ThatGuy on Mar 9, 2019 13:04:41 GMT
On her personality. Before I was thinking Captain America with a bit of Stark, but thinking about it she was closer to Thor and Cap.
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 9, 2019 13:08:13 GMT
Somone whose opinion I trust, said that she is ridiculously overpowered towards the end of the movie. If that is true, doesn't that concern you going forward? Can you point me to the post where you commented that Superman was ridiculously overpowered and that this should be a concern for anyone going forward? I'm eager to see it. Because of course, you would never have a double standard, right?
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 9, 2019 13:16:04 GMT
Somone whose opinion I trust, said that she is ridiculously overpowered towards the end of the movie. If that is true, doesn't that concern you going forward? Can you point me to the post where you commented that Superman was ridiculously overpowered and that this should be a concern for anyone going forward? I'm eager to see it. Because of course, you would never have a double standard, right? I can guaruntee you I have said it. Do you really want me to trawl through my entire posting history to embarrass the fuck out of you? I am sorely tempted.
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 9, 2019 13:25:39 GMT
Can you point me to the post where you commented that Superman was ridiculously overpowered and that this should be a concern for anyone going forward? I'm eager to see it. Because of course, you would never have a double standard, right? I can guaruntee you I have said it. Do you really want me to trawl through my entire posting history to embarrass the fuck out of you? I am sorely tempted. I don't really believe you, but I wouldn't be that embarrassed if you actually successfully defended yourself.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 9, 2019 13:33:11 GMT
I can guaruntee you I have said it. Do you really want me to trawl through my entire posting history to embarrass the fuck out of you? I am sorely tempted. I don't really believe you, but I wouldn't be that embarrassed if you actually successfully defended yourself. There's nothing to defend. I am telling you I have said it, probably on more than one occasion. If you want to put your money where your mouth is then at some point over the next few days, I am prepared to waste a few hours of my time locating it. If you are right then I will self delete my account, if I am right you can self delete your account. Agreed? If not, STFU. 
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Post by Marendil on Mar 9, 2019 13:34:11 GMT
On her personality. Before I was thinking Captain America with a bit of Stark, but thinking about it she was closer to Thor and Cap. Regarding personality I'd go with Widow and Cap. She has the military bearing as well as a quirky little fun side.
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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 9, 2019 13:37:00 GMT
On her personality. Before I was thinking Captain America with a bit of Stark, but thinking about it she was closer to Thor and Cap. Regarding personality I'd go with Widow and Cap. She has the military bearing as well as a quirky little fun side. She has some of Widow's sarcasm I think, but I feel it's a happier "flavor" of sarcasm than Widow's.
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 9, 2019 13:50:36 GMT
I don't really believe you, but I wouldn't be that embarrassed if you actually successfully defended yourself. There's nothing to defend. I am telling you I have said it, probably on more than one occasion. If you want to put your money where your mouth is then at some point over the next few days, I am prepared to waste a few hours of my time locating it. If you are right then I will self delete my account, if I am right you can self delete your account. Agreed? If not, STFU. The sexism in your posting history about this movie and its star is enough to justify my suspicion that you do indeed have a double standard. If you don't have a double standard in this case, well, even a broken clock is right twice a day. This bargain you want to make is just childish nonsense.
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