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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Mar 9, 2019 22:54:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 23:02:35 GMT
we all knew this day was coming......
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 9, 2019 23:03:10 GMT
Ugh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 23:13:25 GMT
we need a hero......  hero sandwich  
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Post by millar70 on Mar 10, 2019 2:51:22 GMT
I'm so thankful that I got to experience what these sports used to be like, in the 70's, in the 80's......
Football, hockey, baseball in those years. Basketball with Larry and Magic. Before the fantasy losers, before the women everywhere, before the pink hats and bats, before the robots.
You kids really did miss out. But that's your problem.
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Post by Johnny-Come-Lately on Mar 10, 2019 2:53:16 GMT
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 10, 2019 4:47:08 GMT
I don't think that's a bad idea as it removes potential bias, and most importantly, errors made by the umpire.
but... it needs to work well otherwise the hell with it.
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Post by NJtoTX on Mar 10, 2019 5:21:35 GMT
I'm good with that.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Mar 10, 2019 5:39:39 GMT
I don't think that's a bad idea as it removes potential bias, and most importantly, errors made by the umpire. but... it needs to work well otherwise the hell with it. There is always bias. But with computers you won’t know whose bias it is and it will be easier to cheat as the programming won’t be seen.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 10, 2019 5:48:19 GMT
nutsberryfarm 🏜I don't see how that can be true because it will be consistent in how it calls balls/strikes as it simply see's a pitch and the person is irrelevant. so before something like that goes live, people can tweak it so it's accurate to where those in say the MLB will all agree on what's balls/strikes etc. so short of the computer/camera misreading a pitch, it should be quite accurate, especially once tuned properly.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Mar 10, 2019 6:01:46 GMT
nutsberryfarm 🏜 I don't see how that can be true because it will be consistent in how it calls balls/strikes as it simply see's a pitch and the person is irrelevant. so before something like that goes live, people can tweak it so it's accurate to where those in say the MLB will all agree on what's balls/strikes etc. so short of the computer/camera misreading a pitch, it should be quite accurate, especially once tuned properly. Who is say someone won’t change the zone that the computer considers a strike in between innings?....it’s going to lead to a major scandals. People will cheat when no one monitors them. With umps being on the field they can be monitored, and errors are of ommison, and corrupt commission.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 10, 2019 6:37:51 GMT
nutsberryfarm 🏜 Well naturally, there will be stuff put in place to ensure that does not happen as MLB clearly has the money to do it. like I would imagine it should not be too difficult to come up with a system that's fair for all, especially after it's tweaked/adjusted etc, even though I imagine it will have to be monitored for a while to make sure it's rock stable on making accurate pitching calls and say something comes up to where someone debates whether it was a ball or strike, I am sure you could get plenty of managers etc throughout the league to agree whether something needs adjustment etc. either way, I can't see how this system would be overall worse than umpires as I think it's pretty safe to say they would be less accurate than a machine properly setup to monitor balls/strikes since a machine has no bias as it simply goes by what it's programmed to do where as with humans the strike zone can vary a bit from umpire to umpire where as a machine will be consistent in it's calls, especially after it's tweaked once it see's thousands or tens of thousands of pitches etc. I just can't see how a machine won't be better than humans making balls and strikes calls, especially after time has passed and it's tweaked because eventually it will reach a point that it's stable/reliable enough to were one would really have to nitpick to try to claim it was wrong and like I was saying, managers/players etc can come up with a basic strike zone that the computer would follow so people can't claim they got the shaft etc. so once all of those generally agree with where the strike zone should be set, and assuming the computer can accurately track that stuff, then it's going to be difficult for someone to make a legitimate complaint about it. at the very least... it will be better than the pitching umpire. but with that said... even with a reliable system, I am sure some people would still complain because they can't accept that they lost. but I would ignore these people especially if they claim they got robbed and you could simply go back and check the footage and prove it and if there was any obvious errors then the system would need to be adjusted accordingly. like how you currently see that thing they show on TV that shows whether a pitch is a ball or strike etc should be some ball park guideline etc. basically with all of the people out there I am sure they could come up with a reliable system, especially with today's technology.
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Post by sdm3 on Mar 10, 2019 6:54:39 GMT
It’s a conspiracy maaaan!
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Mar 10, 2019 12:08:57 GMT
Works for me! I get super annoyed every year with the bullshit, "every ump has their own strike zone". Fuck that, we need uniformity.
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Post by Marv on Mar 10, 2019 12:14:01 GMT
Because computers are always reliable. Never had any problems with those before.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 10, 2019 12:59:09 GMT
Because computers are always reliable. Never had any problems with those before. To me, this is the only real argument against it. Computers can have glitches, but a computer can't hold a grudge against a player or decide he wants to insert himself into the narrative (Joe West). Computers won't throw a guy out of the game for looking at him sideways after a questionable call. A computer won't go into histrionics while making a call to draw attention to himself as if anyone in the crowd came to see him.
In short, I hate umpires so literally anything would be an improvement.
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Post by Marv on Mar 10, 2019 13:22:51 GMT
Because computers are always reliable. Never had any problems with those before. To me, this is the only real argument against it. Computers can have glitches, but a computer can't hold a grudge against a player or decide he wants to insert himself into the narrative (Joe West). Computers won't throw a guy out of the game for looking at him sideways after a questionable call. A computer won't go into histrionics while making a call to draw attention to himself as if anyone in the crowd came to see him.
In short, I hate umpires so literally anything would be an improvement.
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