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Post by Marendil on Mar 13, 2019 6:57:46 GMT
Yet another clueless celeb who doesn't understand what the problem is. I cant help but agree, I've not seen anyone (here at least) criticize the movie on the basis of CM or Brie Larson being a woman or stating they don't want to see women have an equal place in humanity.
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Post by Marendil on Mar 13, 2019 7:08:36 GMT
Those people are full of it AOS is trash,these reviews are lies.these fuckers trashed punisher a big middle finger to them Maybe they would've been nicer to The Punisher if the second season weren't so damn boring? Because honestly, big Punisher fan here and the second season was such a slog my god it was a real chore to sit through for the most part and when it got good it never got great. Jigsaw was totally wasted, looked too clean and presentable, the how he and Frank settled things was so anti-climactic and unsatisfactory. The John Pilgrim character was totally uninteresting and was clearly just filler to get to that 13 episode mark, take him out and really nothing much is lost from the season. And where the heck was Microchip? The Punisher shouldn't be paced like a Clint Eastwood western it should flow like a Paul Verhoeven movie like Robocop - fast, to the point, brutal, and pulpy in places. I understand why you compared it to a CE western, they even had a thinly veiled reference to that in the exquisite third episode, one of my favorite single episodes of any Nexflix series. I missed Microchip too at first, but eventually forgot about him as I found the young grifter so entertaining to watch, especially her scenes with Frank.
I did wonder why they killed Jigsaw at the end, it seemed such a waste.
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Post by Marendil on Mar 13, 2019 7:33:32 GMT
Those people are full of it AOS is trash,these reviews are lies.these fuckers trashed punisher a big middle finger to them I have been watching AoS since the July Comic-con panel that introduced it ahead of the fall launch. I thought I remembered you from the AoS board. I started watching midway through the first season and really liked it and was astonished so many were dissing it so soon into its run, for a first season I thought it was great, better than (Star Trek) TNG, DS9, Buffy or Angel that ended up becoming outstanding in my view. I don't think AoS ever quite attained that status but it was damned good throughout, consistently improving each year even if it never reached as high a peak. The last one was the best and I'm glad we'll get more.
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 13, 2019 8:03:15 GMT
Actually you dont,you never did know what you are talking about Unlike you, I actually watched all the episodes of AoS and the MCU netflix shows (other than the last few Ironfist episodes) so I know a lot more about this discussion than you do. I watched a seasons worth of eps of Shield it was garbage no way i would i put myself through 100 eps. Iron Fist i ll take any day
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Mar 13, 2019 13:39:09 GMT
I love seeing people who mock "snowflakes" who need "safe spaces" completely melt down and bombard the internet with hate videos because their stupid boycott failed.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 13, 2019 13:42:29 GMT
I love seeing people who mock "snowflakes" who need "safe spaces" completely melt down and bombard the internet with hate videos because their stupid boycott failed. They're drowning in irony and they don't even realize it.
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Post by merh on Mar 13, 2019 13:45:33 GMT
Unlike you, I actually watched all the episodes of AoS and the MCU netflix shows (other than the last few Ironfist episodes) so I know a lot more about this discussion than you do. I watched a seasons worth of eps of Shield it was garbage no way i would i put myself through 100 eps. Iron Fist i ll take any day A lot of people thought it was going to be The Avengers, but that was a very incorrect assumption. It was SHIELD. It was Coulson's daily slog like we all have in our jobs. He doesn't hang out with Tony Stark or Thor every day. He gets assignments & works them. The first season they were really tied to Winter Soldier's reveal, but even worse was the 22 episode season that leaves too much room for repeats. Inserting Agent Carter worked much better because they didnt have to repeat so many episodes. Back in the 60s shows were longer-Man from UNCLE ran 30 episode seasons. Gunsmoke was running 36 ep seasons in the early 60s. So the concept of the TV season starting in the fall & ending in May is a bit outdated. 22 episodes should share the slot with another title. American tv has moved toward the model of other countries of 10, 13, 15, etc. episode seasons. Because when you have longer seasons, you get filler eps. My sister & I would watch certain scripts trade between shows. Its like the scriptwriter just swapped out the names & a couple details to make the script fit half a dozen different series. We got Hydra, the Inhumans, Hyde, LMDs, Asgardians, Mockingbird, Quake, Hive, the Koenigs, Ghost Rider, the Matrix, the Darkhold, Kree & other stuff comic fans recognize over the last 5 seasons.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 14:20:27 GMT
Yet another clueless celeb who doesn't understand what the problem is. I cant help but agree, I've not seen anyone (here at least) criticize the movie on the basis of CM or Brie Larson being a woman or stating they don't want to see women have an equal place in humanity. To be fair, I haven't actually seen anyone anywhere complain about Brie Larson being a woman or Captain Marvel being a female-led film.
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 13, 2019 14:23:09 GMT
I watched a seasons worth of eps of Shield it was garbage no way i would i put myself through 100 eps. Iron Fist i ll take any day A lot of people thought it was going to be The Avengers, but that was a very incorrect assumption. It was SHIELD. It was Coulson's daily slog like we all have in our jobs. He doesn't hang out with Tony Stark or Thor every day. He gets assignments & works them. The first season they were really tied to Winter Soldier's reveal, but even worse was the 22 episode season that leaves too much room for repeats. Inserting Agent Carter worked much better because they didnt have to repeat so many episodes. Back in the 60s shows were longer-Man from UNCLE ran 30 episode seasons. Gunsmoke was running 36 ep seasons in the early 60s. So the concept of the TV season starting in the fall & ending in May is a bit outdated. 22 episodes should share the slot with another title. American tv has moved toward the model of other countries of 10, 13, 15, etc. episode seasons. Because when you have longer seasons, you get filler eps. My sister & I would watch certain scripts trade between shows. Its like the scriptwriter just swapped out the names & a couple details to make the script fit half a dozen different series. We got Hydra, the Inhumans, Hyde, LMDs, Asgardians, Mockingbird, Quake, Hive, the Koenigs, Ghost Rider, the Matrix, the Darkhold, Kree & other stuff comic fans recognize over the last 5 seasons. None of that matters if the show is shit. Abc should have pulled the plug the numbers were very low
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Post by Marendil on Mar 13, 2019 16:11:47 GMT
I cant help but agree, I've not seen anyone (here at least) criticize the movie on the basis of CM or Brie Larson being a woman or stating they don't want to see women have an equal place in humanity. To be fair, I haven't actually seen anyone anywhere complain about Brie Larson being a woman or Captain Marvel being a female-led film. I've not bothered to look around much, the ether is a cesspool these days, but in a brief survey I didn't see it either. However since someone might do it somewhere people like Gregg cluelessly employ the fallacy of composition and assume it must be true of all those critical of Brie Larson or CM. Then a bunch of fellow travelers applaud his 'brave' stance causing his serotonin to spike encouraging him to believe he must be right and should do more of the same never realizing he's just being conditioned into dingbattery.
He's much better playing Phil.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 13, 2019 17:39:47 GMT
Unlike you, I actually watched all the episodes of AoS and the MCU netflix shows (other than the last few Ironfist episodes) so I know a lot more about this discussion than you do. I watched a seasons worth of eps of Shield it was garbage no way i would i put myself through 100 eps. Iron Fist i ll take any day AoS after the first half of its first season blows both seasons of Iron Fist out of the water I'm sorry at least they took better advantage of the source material and the budget they have to work from and actually try to show you something fantastic in concept - we've been to outer space, different dimensions, seen monsters of all kinds, had A.I.'s go wild, seen better display of superpowers, etc. where as on Iron Fist we barely saw Kun Lun to even get a taste of what its like or its scope and for all the training Danny has had he's gotten his ass handed to him by people with basic training on Earth. Danny should be like a mix between Iron Man and Thor for The Defenders in terms of resources and god-like power but they watered him down big time in his series.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 13, 2019 17:47:16 GMT
A lot of people thought it was going to be The Avengers, but that was a very incorrect assumption. It was SHIELD. It was Coulson's daily slog like we all have in our jobs. He doesn't hang out with Tony Stark or Thor every day. He gets assignments & works them. The first season they were really tied to Winter Soldier's reveal, but even worse was the 22 episode season that leaves too much room for repeats. Inserting Agent Carter worked much better because they didnt have to repeat so many episodes. Back in the 60s shows were longer-Man from UNCLE ran 30 episode seasons. Gunsmoke was running 36 ep seasons in the early 60s. So the concept of the TV season starting in the fall & ending in May is a bit outdated. 22 episodes should share the slot with another title. American tv has moved toward the model of other countries of 10, 13, 15, etc. episode seasons. Because when you have longer seasons, you get filler eps. My sister & I would watch certain scripts trade between shows. Its like the scriptwriter just swapped out the names & a couple details to make the script fit half a dozen different series. We got Hydra, the Inhumans, Hyde, LMDs, Asgardians, Mockingbird, Quake, Hive, the Koenigs, Ghost Rider, the Matrix, the Darkhold, Kree & other stuff comic fans recognize over the last 5 seasons. None of that matters if the show is shit. Abc should have pulled the plug the numbers were very low AoS at least tries to do new and exciting things, tries to stay on point with its writing, and tries to gives its viewer the fantastic in as large a dose as they can muster with its collection of characters and story elements whereas Iron Fist barely allowed Danny to be as awesome as he is supposed to be and didn't show us what exactly made him such a great fighter or how amazing a place Kun Lun is meant to be. Also, AoS introduced Micro from The Punisher, and at least with most of their villains they at least seem pretty close to their comic counterparts whereas Punisher's Jigsaw was so...Lackluster(Supposed to look hideous yet still looks like he could easily find work as a male model).
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 17:55:53 GMT
Unlike you, I actually watched all the episodes of AoS and the MCU netflix shows (other than the last few Ironfist episodes) so I know a lot more about this discussion than you do. I watched a seasons worth of eps of Shield it was garbage no way i would i put myself through 100 eps. Iron Fist i ll take any day You watched the worst episodes of the show and based it's overall quality on that. Everybody agrees that majority of AoS's first episodes were lackluster... but they were still better than Ironfist. And the succeeding seasons pretty much make it one of the best superhero shows around.
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Post by Marendil on Mar 13, 2019 18:13:14 GMT
I watched a seasons worth of eps of Shield it was garbage no way i would i put myself through 100 eps. Iron Fist i ll take any day You watched the worst episodes of the show and based it's overall quality on that. Everybody agrees that majority of AoS's first episodes were lackluster... but they were still better than Ironfist. And the succeeding seasons pretty much make it one of the best superhero shows around. I don't, I liked them. I thought they did a great job of introducing the characters and settings. I especially liked "The Well," "FZZT," "The Hub," "End of the Beginning," "T.A.H.I.T.I." "T.R.A.C.K.S." and 'Turn, Turn, Turn." I actively disliked "Repairs" and thought there were a fair number mediocre ones in the first half I didn't mention, but after "Turn, Turn, Turn" the series was very solid in my opinion.
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 13, 2019 20:48:54 GMT
I watched a seasons worth of eps of Shield it was garbage no way i would i put myself through 100 eps. Iron Fist i ll take any day You watched the worst episodes of the show and based it's overall quality on that. Everybody agrees that majority of AoS's first episodes were lackluster... but they were still better than Ironfist. And the succeeding seasons pretty much make it one of the best superhero shows around. I watched the worst eps? Maybe the show wasn't good to begin with. Hell like I said I even tried skipping around to see if the seasons improved nope. Best shows are punisher and Daredevil. Even Iron Fist is better.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 20:55:46 GMT
You watched the worst episodes of the show and based it's overall quality on that. Everybody agrees that majority of AoS's first episodes were lackluster... but they were still better than Ironfist. And the succeeding seasons pretty much make it one of the best superhero shows around. I watched the worst eps? Maybe the show wasn't good to begin with. Hell like I said I even tried skipping around to see if the seasons improved nope. Best shows are punisher and Daredevil. Even Iron Fist is better. So you skipped and watched disjointed episodes without know what the overall arc of that season was? Yeah, you definitely have no idea what you're talking about now.
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Post by thenewnexus on Mar 13, 2019 22:04:11 GMT
I watched the worst eps? Maybe the show wasn't good to begin with. Hell like I said I even tried skipping around to see if the seasons improved nope. Best shows are punisher and Daredevil. Even Iron Fist is better. So you skipped and watched disjointed episodes without know what the overall arc of that season was? Yeah, you definitely have no idea what you're talking about now. You and the AOS fandom pretty much suggested that I do that,saying the first season was boring and the later eps were much better,but nope.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 22:08:18 GMT
So you skipped and watched disjointed episodes without know what the overall arc of that season was? Yeah, you definitely have no idea what you're talking about now. You and the AOS fandom pretty much suggested that I do that,saying the first season was boring and the later eps were much better,but nope. Pretty sure no one would suggest that you suddenly jumped into the middle of a season, watch a single episode, and expect it to make sense.
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Post by THawk on Mar 13, 2019 22:40:15 GMT
Lol that is a good one-liner I'll give him that. But could both sides of the 'issue' just shut the fuck up? Some of us want escapism and not to have to listen to your American socio-political hissy fits 24/7. Go have yourselves another civil war if you hate each other so much.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 13, 2019 22:42:33 GMT
Oh great another moron who thinks if you don`t like this movie you hate women.
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