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Post by hi224 on Mar 15, 2019 3:13:22 GMT
Anyone.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Mar 15, 2019 3:22:52 GMT
1958 seattle university redhawks squad with Elgin Baylor
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Post by hi224 on Mar 15, 2019 3:31:46 GMT
1958 seattle university redhawks squad with Elgin Baylor Good choice as well. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 15, 2019 8:57:15 GMT
Any of John Wooden's UCLA teams. Went way beyond the stars, Alcindor, Walton et al. It was said that the 2nd string, guys who you never heard of, would have been a Final Four team,
1973-74 NC State. 30-1. David Thompson, Monte Towe, Tom Burleson
1975-76 Indiana. Last undefeated team. Scott May. Kent Benson, Quinn Buckner. No team will ever go undefeated again.
1981-82 North Carolina. Fresher in everyone's memory. James Worthy, Sam Perkins, some Jordan kid. 34-2. Actually, the 1983-84 team was better on paper. Worthy was gone, but Jordan and Perkins were still there. Along with Brad Daugherty, Kenny Smith. Joe Wolf, Dave Popson, Buzz Peterson, Matt Doherty. One loss at the end of the regular season, by one to Arkansas. But lost a squeaker to Duke in the ACC and lost to a boring Indiana team in the NCAA. My granny could have led that team to the Final Four.
1991-92 and 1992-92 Duke. The Laettner, Hill, Hill, Hurley teams. Lots of other useful player, Billy McCaffrey, Antonio Lang, Brian Davis, Cherokee Parks. Four Final Fours, three title games, two Championships.
1995-96 Kentucky. 34-2. Nine players who went to the NBA. NINE.
Could add the 1989-90 UNLV. But the 1990-91 team was better until the Final Four
One to consider, the legendary Phi Slama Jama Houston teams. 1982-83 and 1983-84. Good grief, Clyde, Akeem Abdul, Michael Young, Benny Anders, Reid Gettys, "Mr. Mean" Larry Micheaux, Alvin Franklin. I can see them losing to Georgetown in 1984, that team was good. But how the fuck did they lose to Valvano's NC State? Yeah, I seen "Survive and Advance" but Houston should have beat the Wolfpack by 60. No 600. Just the matchup at center, Hakeem v. Cozell Fucking McQueen? Another case of a team playing in a shit conference and not being able to handle the NCAA Tournament. The old SWC was Houston, Arkansas and seven other team that could beat a school for the blind.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 15, 2019 11:58:14 GMT
Any of John Wooden's UCLA teams. Went way beyond the stars, Alcindor, Walton et al. It was said that the 2nd string, guys who you never heard of, would have been a Final Four team, 1973-74 NC State. 30-1. David Thompson, Monte Towe, Tom Burleson 1975-76 Indiana. Last undefeated team. Scott May. Kent Benson, Quinn Buckner. No team will ever go undefeated again. 1981-82 North Carolina. Fresher in everyone's memory. James Worthy, Sam Perkins, some Jordan kid. 34-2. Actually, the 1983-84 team was better on paper. Worthy was gone, but Jordan and Perkins were still there. Along with Brad Daugherty, Kenny Smith. Joe Wolf, Dave Popson, Buzz Peterson, Matt Doherty. One loss at the end of the regular season, by one to Arkansas. But lost a squeaker to Duke in the ACC and lost to a boring Indiana team in the NCAA. My granny could have led that team to the Final Four. 1991-92 and 1992-92 Duke. The Laettner, Hill, Hill, Hurley teams. Lots of other useful player, Billy McCaffrey, Antonio Lang, Brian Davis, Cherokee Parks. Four Final Fours, three title games, two Championships. 1995-96 Kentucky. 34-2. Nine players who went to the NBA. NINE. Could add the 1989-90 UNLV. But the 1990-91 team was better until the Final Four One to consider, the legendary Phi Slama Jama Houston teams. 1982-83 and 1983-84. Good grief, Clyde, Akeem Abdul, Michael Young, Benny Anders, Reid Gettys, "Mr. Mean" Larry Micheaux, Alvin Franklin. I can see them losing to Georgetown in 1984, that team was good. But how the fuck did they lose to Valvano's NC State? Yeah, I seen "Survive and Advance" but Houston should have beat the Wolfpack by 60. No 600. Just the matchup at center, Hakeem v. Cozell Fucking McQueen? Another case of a team playing in a shit conference and not being able to handle the NCAA Tournament. The old SWC was Houston, Arkansas and seven other team that could beat a school for the blind. One of those losses was to UMass! Woot! (So what if Kentucky won the rematch in the Final Four, UMass had to vacate that run anyway due to Camby accepting gifts from a booster.)
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Post by NJtoTX on Mar 15, 2019 15:34:47 GMT
But how the fuck did they lose to Valvano's NC State? Because don't give up, don't ever give up.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 15, 2019 16:42:16 GMT
But how the fuck did they lose to Valvano's NC State? Because don't give up, don't ever give up. Valvano has the image now of part coach, part comic. But he was a good coach. And, obviously, a master motivator. If he hadn't been fucked over, I have no doubt he would have won another. And NC State was a good team. Thurl Bailey, Sid Lowe and Dereck Whittenburg were very good college players. And NCST's lousy record was due to Whittenberg's injury. But they didn't matchup well with Houston. Cozell McQueen and Lorenzo Thomas were below average front court players. Akeem alone should have ruined the Wolfpack. Drexler's foul trouble didn't help. But Guy Lewis played Valvano's game. The team that ran a very very talented Louisville team off the court two days ago plays a slow down game against a team that can only win by playing a slow tempo game. Lewis was a good recruiter but a poor coach. He benefited from being the only shool in Texas to be worth a fidler's fuck. Drexler, Anders, Mr Mean (great nickname) Micheaux , Gettys, Franklin were all form Texas.
Valvano got screwed. Yeah, players were there that shouldn't have been. Yeah some kids were selling shoes and tickets. But they made NC state look like SMU football. Wasn't that bad, State should have got some probation but Valvano should have survived.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 15, 2019 19:26:09 GMT
Any of John Wooden's UCLA teams. Went way beyond the stars, Alcindor, Walton et al. It was said that the 2nd string, guys who you never heard of, would have been a Final Four team, 1973-74 NC State. 30-1. David Thompson, Monte Towe, Tom Burleson 1975-76 Indiana. Last undefeated team. Scott May. Kent Benson, Quinn Buckner. No team will ever go undefeated again. 1981-82 North Carolina. Fresher in everyone's memory. James Worthy, Sam Perkins, some Jordan kid. 34-2. Actually, the 1983-84 team was better on paper. Worthy was gone, but Jordan and Perkins were still there. Along with Brad Daugherty, Kenny Smith. Joe Wolf, Dave Popson, Buzz Peterson, Matt Doherty. One loss at the end of the regular season, by one to Arkansas. But lost a squeaker to Duke in the ACC and lost to a boring Indiana team in the NCAA. My granny could have led that team to the Final Four. 1991-92 and 1992-92 Duke. The Laettner, Hill, Hill, Hurley teams. Lots of other useful player, Billy McCaffrey, Antonio Lang, Brian Davis, Cherokee Parks. Four Final Fours, three title games, two Championships. 1995-96 Kentucky. 34-2. Nine players who went to the NBA. NINE. Could add the 1989-90 UNLV. But the 1990-91 team was better until the Final Four One to consider, the legendary Phi Slama Jama Houston teams. 1982-83 and 1983-84. Good grief, Clyde, Akeem Abdul, Michael Young, Benny Anders, Reid Gettys, "Mr. Mean" Larry Micheaux, Alvin Franklin. I can see them losing to Georgetown in 1984, that team was good. But how the fuck did they lose to Valvano's NC State? Yeah, I seen "Survive and Advance" but Houston should have beat the Wolfpack by 60. No 600. Just the matchup at center, Hakeem v. Cozell Fucking McQueen? Another case of a team playing in a shit conference and not being able to handle the NCAA Tournament. The old SWC was Houston, Arkansas and seven other team that could beat a school for the blind. good call on kentucky.
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Post by permutojoe on Mar 15, 2019 22:48:48 GMT
Quantity wise it has to be '96 Kentucky although I'm not sure how they'd do against some of the tighter knit squads like '99 Duke or MSU and some others I can't think of right now.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Mar 15, 2019 23:42:18 GMT
Tulane 1999.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Mar 16, 2019 0:35:39 GMT
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Post by NJtoTX on Mar 16, 2019 18:21:40 GMT
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 16, 2019 19:57:48 GMT
The Bleacher Report one is hilarious. 1989-90 Loyola Marymount better than 1981-82 UNC? Better than 1995-96 Kentucky? That wasn't one of the top 100 teams. Hell 200. Yeah they scored at will but a 5th grade paraplegic squad could score on them. It sucked that Hank Gathers died, but it didin't make any difference. They played UNLV in the Elite 8 and the Rebs carved them up. UNLV played the same game and played it much better.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 4:38:48 GMT
Any of John Wooden's UCLA teams. Went way beyond the stars, Alcindor, Walton et al. It was said that the 2nd string, guys who you never heard of, would have been a Final Four team, 1973-74 NC State. 30-1. David Thompson, Monte Towe, Tom Burleson 1975-76 Indiana. Last undefeated team. Scott May. Kent Benson, Quinn Buckner. No team will ever go undefeated again. 1981-82 North Carolina. Fresher in everyone's memory. James Worthy, Sam Perkins, some Jordan kid. 34-2. Actually, the 1983-84 team was better on paper. Worthy was gone, but Jordan and Perkins were still there. Along with Brad Daugherty, Kenny Smith. Joe Wolf, Dave Popson, Buzz Peterson, Matt Doherty. One loss at the end of the regular season, by one to Arkansas. But lost a squeaker to Duke in the ACC and lost to a boring Indiana team in the NCAA. My granny could have led that team to the Final Four. 1991-92 and 1992-92 Duke. The Laettner, Hill, Hill, Hurley teams. Lots of other useful player, Billy McCaffrey, Antonio Lang, Brian Davis, Cherokee Parks. Four Final Fours, three title games, two Championships. 1995-96 Kentucky. 34-2. Nine players who went to the NBA. NINE. Could add the 1989-90 UNLV. But the 1990-91 team was better until the Final Four One to consider, the legendary Phi Slama Jama Houston teams. 1982-83 and 1983-84. Good grief, Clyde, Akeem Abdul, Michael Young, Benny Anders, Reid Gettys, "Mr. Mean" Larry Micheaux, Alvin Franklin. I can see them losing to Georgetown in 1984, that team was good. But how the fuck did they lose to Valvano's NC State? Yeah, I seen "Survive and Advance" but Houston should have beat the Wolfpack by 60. No 600. Just the matchup at center, Hakeem v. Cozell Fucking McQueen? Another case of a team playing in a shit conference and not being able to handle the NCAA Tournament. The old SWC was Houston, Arkansas and seven other team that could beat a school for the blind. Shooting. They had no real outside shooters. NC State had a few good ones and two really good big men in Thurl Bailey, their best overall player, and powerful Lorenzo Charles. They played their best in the tournament.
The best shooter on Houston was probably leftie Micheal Young, and he was very inconsistent. Defenses would barely guard Franklin outside. Even Drexler was a poor shooter at the time, he was a thoroughbred known for his high flying dunks. They were just so athletic that they could dominate most teams. And NC State caught fire at the right time, was able to dictate the pace of the game, slow it down.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 17, 2019 6:51:07 GMT
how the fuck did they lose to Valvano's NC State? Houston had an 8-point lead in the 2nd half but Valvano used a Hack-a-Shaq strategy and Houston kept missing their free throws, allowing NC State to come back and tie the game.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 17, 2019 17:20:55 GMT
how the fuck did they lose to Valvano's NC State? Houston had an 8-point lead in the 2nd half but Valvano used a Hack-a-Shaq strategy and Houston kept missing their free throws, allowing NC State to come back and tie the game. It was somewhat of a rhetorical question. I watched the game and watched Survive and Advance. Had Houston come out and played the game they played against Louisville in the semifinal, they would have crushed NC State. Houston took the Pack too lightly, even though they had beat UNC and mighty Virginia twice. They expected NCSU to play a slow down game, Valvano had said that for two days (no shot clock) but he played an uptempo game. Drexler's foul trouble hurt. And Houston played a slow down game in the 2nd half. If Phi Slama Jama had showed up, instead of just the Houston Cougars, they would have won by 30.
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