Caesium137
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Post by Caesium137 on Mar 28, 2019 8:56:56 GMT
I see DCComics twitter page has also put out a timely tweet suggesting people who dont think Batman kill dont know the ture history of Batman lol. They seem to be backing up Snyder
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 28, 2019 8:58:55 GMT
Batman killed people in the original comics and in the two Burton films. It shouldn't be an issue here. Batman quit killing people in the comics before Superman knew how to fly in the comics. Do you want a non-flying Superman as well? The point sailed completely over your head.
Batman killed in the comics.
Batman killed in two hit movies by Tim Burton.
Therefore, there is solid, undeniable precedence for Batman killing people. There is no argument to be had: it is a valid version of the character. Deal with it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 9:51:50 GMT
Batman quit killing people in the comics before Superman knew how to fly in the comics. Do you want a non-flying Superman as well? The point sailed completely over your head.
Batman killed in the comics.
Batman killed in two hit movies by Tim Burton.
Therefore, there is solid, undeniable precedence for Batman killing people. There is no argument to be had: it is a valid version of the character. Deal with it.
Oh, well since you put it THAT way: Batman quit killing people in the comics before Superman knew how to fly in the comics. Do you want a non-flying Superman as well? Oh wait, I said the same thing. |
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 28, 2019 10:58:51 GMT
Batman quit killing people in the comics before Superman knew how to fly in the comics. And in more recent times, Batman started killing again when he appeared in the Burton films, which were seen by millions more than ever read a single issue of the comic, making the Burton version even more relevant. It is therefore established canon that a Batman who kills is a legitimate version of the character. Deal with it.
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Post by James on Mar 28, 2019 12:39:43 GMT
Batman quit killing people in the comics before Superman knew how to fly in the comics. And in more recent times, Batman started killing again when he appeared in the Burton films, which were seen by millions more than ever read a single issue of the comic, making the Burton version even more relevant. It is therefore established canon that a Batman who kills is a legitimate version of the character. Deal with it. Didn’t he stop killing AFTER that though? |
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 28, 2019 12:50:19 GMT
And in more recent times, Batman started killing again when he appeared in the Burton films, which were seen by millions more than ever read a single issue of the comic, making the Burton version even more relevant. It is therefore established canon that a Batman who kills is a legitimate version of the character. Deal with it. Didn’t he stop killing AFTER that though? Well, A. I don't remember since I've tried to banish the memory of the Schumacher films from my brain. B. It wouldn't matter since under a new director with two new actors, you have a new interpretation of the character. C. It wouldn't matter since it has already been established that a version of Batman who kills is canon.
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Post by James on Mar 28, 2019 12:52:49 GMT
Didn’t he stop killing AFTER that though? Well, A. I don't remember since I've tried to banish the memory of the Schumacher films from my brain. B. It wouldn't matter since under a new director with two new actors, you have a new interpretation of the character. C. It wouldn't matter since it has already been established that a version of Batman who kills is canon. What about TDK trilogy? |
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 28, 2019 13:18:12 GMT
New director, new interpretation of the character. It's fundamentally no different than a new writer taking the character in a new direction in the comics. Or writing a stand alone graphic novel.
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Post by James on Mar 28, 2019 13:32:07 GMT
New director, new interpretation of the character. It's fundamentally no different than a new writer taking the character in a new direction in the comics. Or writing a stand alone graphic novel. Sigh, fine. But Batman is more compelling as a character when he chooses NOT to kill. |
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 28, 2019 13:59:01 GMT
But Batman is more compelling as a character when he chooses NOT to kill. I agree. It creates moral complications which the villains can exploit.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Mar 28, 2019 22:28:07 GMT
It's amazing how much Snyder turned out be like Uwe Boll, just with 10,000 times the resources.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 30, 2019 23:10:38 GMT
To be honest out of all the live-action versions of Batman that have been on the big screen I'd say Snyder's had more organic establishment to lead to breaking his 'one rule' compared to the other ones. He had been fighting crime in Gotham for twenty years and saw a lot of death, experienced a lot of pain and loss, and some of the people he came across didn't keep good on their promises after seemingly 'changing' after their encounter with the Dark Knight. Couple that with witnessing first hand the damage fantastical beings can do on Earth and getting apocalyptic visions that Bruce Wayne was on the verge of turning into exactly what he spent so many years fighting against.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Mar 31, 2019 15:51:48 GMT
To be honest out of all the live-action versions of Batman that have been on the big screen I'd say Snyder's had more organic establishment to lead to breaking his 'one rule' compared to the other ones. He had been fighting crime in Gotham for twenty years and saw a lot of death, experienced a lot of pain and loss, and some of the people he came across didn't keep good on their promises after seemingly 'changing' after their encounter with the Dark Knight. Couple that with witnessing first hand the damage fantastical beings can do on Earth and getting apocalyptic visions that Bruce Wayne was on the verge of turning into exactly what he spent so many years fighting against. And perhaps it would have worked if he hadn't made such a bad film.
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