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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 29, 2019 16:09:28 GMT
Evans HAS the right to not want to continue to support Brady because of his like for Trump who is also free to dislike as much as he wishes, HOWEVER by saying so to a publication which can be read by ANYONE he risks causing division amongst potential consumers of any product he is meant to sell. It doesn't help that Evans also shared anecdotes of Kevin Feige where he is said to be fully in favor of his political rantings online as that too causes serious division amongst consumers. Movies like The Avengers and everything else Marvel should be viewed by EVERYONE regardless of political affiliation, race, gender, or religion. The reporter asked him if he would play Brady in a movie if offered. Evans replied honestly. Did you not know this? Chris Pratt is very vocal about his Christianity. Doesn't it sound as though Marvel allows its stars to believe what they choose to believe? You are missing the point, Evans is allowed to think the way he does but he should word his statements better because comments such as these can create serious divisiveness amongst consumers.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 29, 2019 16:14:52 GMT
A fairly popular football star who is worth millions(as you've already been informed) and is married to this fine lady Lmao. Now I understand why DC-Fan added her to his non-attractive female celebrities poll. He hates Tom Brady therefore he can’t find his wife attractive just like he can’t find most of the MCU actresses attractive because he hates the MCU! I don't know how ANYBODY could say with a straight face that Gisele Bundchen isn't attractive, she was an 'angel' for good reason.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 29, 2019 16:18:13 GMT
There was a time when people could disagree on their political views yet still remain friends. Or at the very least, maintain respect for one another. What the hell happened? It's not that hard not to be a jerk. DSDSquared and I have had plenty of political disagreements and we still get along just fine on these boards. Unfortunately some of these guys are just too angry (about what, you'd have to ask them- though you're probably better off not). Yeah it's getting ridiculous. My old seatmate at work was a heavy Trump supporter. I wasn't, and I disagreed with him on about 90% of his political beliefs. That didn't stop us from being able to amicably work together. I didn't hate him or thought he was this vile human being or whatever. Though to be fair, I had to ask him to stop talking about politics otherwise we would never get any work done.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 29, 2019 16:25:41 GMT
It's not that hard not to be a jerk. DSDSquared and I have had plenty of political disagreements and we still get along just fine on these boards. Unfortunately some of these guys are just too angry (about what, you'd have to ask them- though you're probably better off not). Yeah it's getting ridiculous. My old seatmate at work was a heavy Trump supporter. I wasn't, and I disagreed with him on about 90% of his political beliefs. That didn't stop us from being able to amicably work together. I didn't hate him or thought he was this vile human being or whatever. Though to be fair, I had to ask him to stop talking about politics otherwise we would never get any work done. I work with plenty of Trump supporters, even have them in my family. It is what it is, you just focus on the stuff you have in common. I think it's harder for people to do online because they don't know the individual they're speaking with. That person simply becomes the embodiment of whatever ideal it is they're speaking on. There's no nuance in a one-dimensional message board interaction. But it really comes down to what I said earlier. You have to not want to be a jerk, otherwise you'll just be arguing the same stuff with everyone over and over with no resolution. Getting back on topic, I am surprised Disney lets their MCU stars express themselves so freely on social media.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 29, 2019 16:47:08 GMT
Yeah it's getting ridiculous. My old seatmate at work was a heavy Trump supporter. I wasn't, and I disagreed with him on about 90% of his political beliefs. That didn't stop us from being able to amicably work together. I didn't hate him or thought he was this vile human being or whatever. Though to be fair, I had to ask him to stop talking about politics otherwise we would never get any work done. From what I can gather, Brady may have worn a Trump hat once. It's not like he goes around shoving his politcal beliefs down people's throats. Trump is close with the Patriots organization (friendly with ownership, the head coach and Brady). Brady had a MAGA hat in his locker years ago, before Trump became a serious candidate for President (keep in mind Trump never intended to win the election). When asked whether he supported Trump, Brady made a joke about it but didn't say anything political. Since then he's gone out of his way to avoid any conversation about Trump. He's probably still an acquaintance of his, and maybe he agrees with Trump on some topics, who's to say? I respect his decision to keep his politics to himself. I also respect Evans's opinion though I think it's kind of ridiculous regarding Brady. You wouldn't play him because of his support for Trump? Actors play the actual villains in films, not just the people who support them. Do you think Christian Bale was a Cheney supporter? Somehow I doubt a Tom Brady movie would have a heavy political slant, and I can tell you as a Brady fan I have zero interest in a Tom Brady biopic either way.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 29, 2019 17:05:14 GMT
Good video by Professor Geek, curious what you think merh
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Post by DSDSquared on Mar 29, 2019 17:30:20 GMT
There was a time when people could disagree on their political views yet still remain friends. Or at the very least, maintain respect for one another. What the hell happened? It's not that hard not to be a jerk. DSDSquared and I have had plenty of political disagreements and we still get along just fine on these boards. Unfortunately some of these guys are just too angry (about what, you'd have to ask them- though you're probably better off not). I agree. Unfortunately, I just like to argue, whether it be about Trump, NBA, NFL, movies, whatever. I might get heated sometimes, but we move on. Unlike most people on here, I forget who I was arguing with half the time.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 29, 2019 18:57:02 GMT
From what I can gather, Brady may have worn a Trump hat once. It's not like he goes around shoving his politcal beliefs down people's throats. Trump is close with the Patriots organization (friendly with ownership, the head coach and Brady). Brady had a MAGA hat in his locker years ago, before Trump became a serious candidate for President (keep in mind Trump never intended to win the election). When asked whether he supported Trump, Brady made a joke about it but didn't say anything political. Since then he's gone out of his way to avoid any conversation about Trump. He's probably still an acquaintance of his, and maybe he agrees with Trump on some topics, who's to say? I respect his decision to keep his politics to himself. I also respect Evans's opinion though I think it's kind of ridiculous regarding Brady. You wouldn't play him because of his support for Trump? Actors play the actual villains in films, not just the people who support them. Do you think Christian Bale was a Cheney supporter? Somehow I doubt a Tom Brady movie would have a heavy political slant, and I can tell you as a Brady fan I have zero interest in a Tom Brady biopic either way. Good point about actors playing villains. They play homicidal maniacs, psychopaths, rapists, mass murderers, etc. then all of a sudden you're queasy about playing a trump supporter? Reminds me of Charlie Hunnam (allegedly) backing out of 50 Shades of Grey because he wasn't comfortable playing a character that was into BDSM... but he was perfectly fine playing a psycho villain in Cold Mountain.
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Post by damngumby on Mar 29, 2019 22:40:54 GMT
The last thing I read about a Brady bio-pic was that it would key around the bogus deflate-gate suspension and the spectacular success of the 2016 season. I think an accurate dramatization of the deflategate debacle would be very entertaining. The general public would see how badly he was wronged and how he persevered against incredible odds. Football fans already know he is the greatest of all time. A movie like that would elevate his stature into the stratosphere for everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 23:12:12 GMT
That's probably not great. I guess the decision is personal, and crosses a threshold for what Evans considers acceptable. But a job is a job. If the chance to play Tom Brady in a biopic comes along, it's irresponsible not to at least consider it.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 30, 2019 2:34:23 GMT
Lmao. Now I understand why DC-Fan added her to his non-attractive female celebrities poll. He hates Tom Brady therefore he can’t find his wife attractive just like he can’t find most of the MCU actresses attractive because he hates the MCU! I don't know how ANYBODY could say with a straight face that Gisele Bundchen isn't attractive, she was an 'angel' for good reason. Gisele's nose looks like a giraffe's nose and Gisele is really ugly for a model.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 30, 2019 4:37:18 GMT
I don't know how ANYBODY could say with a straight face that Gisele Bundchen isn't attractive, she was an 'angel' for good reason. Gisele's nose looks like a giraffe's nose and Gisele is really ugly for a model. Something is VERY wrong with you if you think Gisele Bundchen is "very ugly for a model"! Girl dated Leonardo DiCaprio!
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Post by sostie on Mar 30, 2019 11:20:39 GMT
Yup. I have no idea who the guy is. Tom "Shady" Brady is the biggest cheater and frad in American sports. You know you have probably done more to promote the name of Tom Brady to those that have no interest in "American sports" than anyone else. And with your track record most of those like the fact that he winds you up so much
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2019 0:46:17 GMT
Trump is close with the Patriots organization (friendly with ownership, the head coach and Brady). Brady had a MAGA hat in his locker years ago, before Trump became a serious candidate for President (keep in mind Trump never intended to win the election). When asked whether he supported Trump, Brady made a joke about it but didn't say anything political. Since then he's gone out of his way to avoid any conversation about Trump. He's probably still an acquaintance of his, and maybe he agrees with Trump on some topics, who's to say? I respect his decision to keep his politics to himself. I also respect Evans's opinion though I think it's kind of ridiculous regarding Brady. You wouldn't play him because of his support for Trump? Actors play the actual villains in films, not just the people who support them. Do you think Christian Bale was a Cheney supporter? Somehow I doubt a Tom Brady movie would have a heavy political slant, and I can tell you as a Brady fan I have zero interest in a Tom Brady biopic either way. Good point about actors playing villains. They play homicidal maniacs, psychopaths, rapists, mass murderers, etc. then all of a sudden you're queasy about playing a trump supporter? Reminds me of Charlie Hunnam (allegedly) backing out of 50 Shades of Grey because he wasn't comfortable playing a character that was into BDSM... but he was perfectly fine playing a psycho villain in Cold Mountain. Playing a murderer can be seen as expanding one's craft. What does playing a quarterback expand Evans' craft? I thought people blame Ledger's death on the idea Joker was too dark for him to live with, yet you're judging Hunnam for not wanting to go there? Defending Jacob (TV Series) (pre-production) Andy Barber - Episode #1.8 ... Andy Barber - Episode #1.7 ... Andy Barber - Episode #1.6 ... Andy Barber - Episode #1.5 ... Andy Barber - Episode #1.4 ... Andy Barber Show all 8 episodes Infinite (pre-production) Evan Michaels Jekyll (pre-production) Tom Jackman 2019 The Red Sea Diving Resort (post-production) Ari Levinson 2019 Knives Out (post-production) Alex Robinson 2019 Avengers: Endgame (completed) Steve Rogers / Captain America 2019 Captain Marvel Steve Rogers (uncredited) 2018 Avengers: Infinity War Steve Rogers / Captain America 2017 Spider-Man: Homecoming Steve Rogers / Captain America 2017 Gifted Frank Adler 2016 Captain America: Civil War Steve Rogers / Captain America 2015 Ant-Man Steve Rogers (uncredited) 2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron Steve Rogers / Captain America 2014 Playing It Cool Me 2014/I Before We Go Nick 2014 Captain America: The Winter Soldier Steve Rogers / Captain America 2013 Thor: The Dark World Loki as Captain America (uncredited) 2013 Snowpiercer Curtis 2012 The Iceman Mr. Freezy 2012 The Avengers Assemble Premiere 2012 The Carlton Dance (Video short) Chris 2012 The Avengers Steve Rogers / Captain America 2011 What's Your Number? Colin Shea 2011 Captain America: Super Soldier (Video Game) Captain America / Steve Rogers (voice) 2011 Captain America: The First Avenger Have you noticed his acting choices since the MCU? He's a bit selective
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2019 2:10:53 GMT
Good video by Professor Geek, curious what you think merh Damn. Ran out of room. I was doing this on memo, but I ran out of space so part 1? 32 seconds-actors can't have opinions? Is Prof Geek a professional political commentator that he has the right to have an opinion? Did you know Evans' uncle is former Massachusetts Representative Mike Capuano so politics is in the blood.(mine also. In my grandmother's geneology book was a campaign bumper sticker for one of her relatives who ran for office. I assume he lost.) 1:15-Evans campaigned for Hillary in 2016, but it's all of a sudden now? Cover date for New Avengers 47 was JANUARY 2009. Agent Trump first appeared in Incredible Hulk in 1987. So don't claim Marvel making comments on Donnieboy is sudden. Marvel did the whole drug issue without the comic code in the 70s, was it? Marvel makes social commentary all the damned time. It's what separated them from DC when I was deciding which comic company I preferred. IT'S MARVEL. 1:36-HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HE'S OUTRAGED ABOUT? I almost swore there. Damnation. Really lazy. LOOK IT UP, GODDAMNIT. READ THE SOURCE. Ok, it's a thing with me. I was a good little Christian girl believed what they fuckin told me, but I was also a headbanger. Do you remember the whole PMRC record rating thing? People who claimed to represent God LIED about song lyrics. Like one of the guys in Judas Priest said people who didn't have a clue about what the band was about was telling people who would never listen to the band their songs were about the devil when they weren't CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF. How many times can they fill me with lies & I listen again? Twisting the truth & they're playing around with my head. Ok. They things they will do & the things they will say when they don't really understand. Tears fill my eyes when I hear all the cries for the reason today. And they dont really know even what they're talking about and I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve 2:43-? Where does Chris Evans insult his fans? Chris Evans IS A FAN OF THE PATRIOTS. So he was asked about portraying Brady in a movie & said his support of Trump is a dealbreaker. He has to portray the man & apparently portraying a Trump supporter is something he cannot portray. Damn him for that? No, this Geek guy says Evans says all Trump supporters are stupid or evil(no. Zero to 60 wrong conclusion) How thin skinned mama's boy is this guy? Walk it off. My signature is from The Lady's Not for Burning by Christopher Fry.Really good play. I recommend it highly. The woman owns property the city leaders want while the man has nothing.
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2019 2:38:13 GMT
Playing a murderer can be seen as expanding one's craft. What does playing a quarterback expand Evans' craft? I thought people blame Ledger's death on the idea Joker was too dark for him to live with, yet you're judging Hunnam for not wanting to go there? Defending Jacob (TV Series) (pre-production) Andy Barber - Episode #1.8 ... Andy Barber - Episode #1.7 ... Andy Barber - Episode #1.6 ... Andy Barber - Episode #1.5 ... Andy Barber - Episode #1.4 ... Andy Barber Show all 8 episodes Infinite (pre-production) Evan Michaels Jekyll (pre-production) Tom Jackman 2019 The Red Sea Diving Resort (post-production) Ari Levinson 2019 Knives Out (post-production) Alex Robinson 2019 Avengers: Endgame (completed) Steve Rogers / Captain America 2019 Captain Marvel Steve Rogers (uncredited) 2018 Avengers: Infinity War Steve Rogers / Captain America 2017 Spider-Man: Homecoming Steve Rogers / Captain America 2017 Gifted Frank Adler 2016 Captain America: Civil War Steve Rogers / Captain America 2015 Ant-Man Steve Rogers (uncredited) 2015 Avengers: Age of Ultron Steve Rogers / Captain America 2014 Playing It Cool Me 2014/I Before We Go Nick 2014 Captain America: The Winter Soldier Steve Rogers / Captain America 2013 Thor: The Dark World Loki as Captain America (uncredited) 2013 Snowpiercer Curtis 2012 The Iceman Mr. Freezy 2012 The Avengers Assemble Premiere 2012 The Carlton Dance (Video short) Chris 2012 The Avengers Steve Rogers / Captain America 2011 What's Your Number? Colin Shea 2011 Captain America: Super Soldier (Video Game) Captain America / Steve Rogers (voice) 2011 Captain America: The First Avenger Have you noticed his acting choices since the MCU? He's a bit selective He is in "Jekyll." As far as I recall, Mr Hyde is a homicidal maniac who abuses women. Not as bad as a casual Trump supporter though, eh? You are SO WOUNDED, aren't you? I pointed out actors see playing murderers as expanding their skills. Are you comparing Trump supporters to murderers? Not to mention, so far as we know he is done with Marvel. It's in pre-production so hell knows if it will get made Ellen DeGeneres is a producer Steven Moffat is a writer. So kicking around since 2016... A film version of a British series. Apparently the creator tried to get it made in the US before that & failed so we're bordering on development hell. Why are guys so wounded anymore? Damnation
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2019 4:31:05 GMT
So he was for Trump's opponent (as was I) Trump is for Trump. He has ballooned the debt. He lies more than he tells the truth. I remember political crap into my childhood. I remember my parents were for Nixon so I was for Nixon when I would have been 7. I grew up in the 60s when everything seemed to be political & was a teen in the 70s when we had Watergate everywhere it seemed. It is not just that they hate him, it is that they say it is a fact that he is somehow evil and dumb and it is a fact that his supporters are not "woke", whatever that means. It is sad. My left toe knows more about politics and what is going on in this country than someone like Evans. Because you're an "average Joe"? You don't know his life. He does a lot of charity work with kids so maybe he sees what budget cuts do to stuff. I've worked for the government for 31 years. I deal with politics daily Ok, this is a bit of a mess No fancy quote breaks this time Sorry, we ALL base actions on our emotions. I am a flaming liberal, but not a bleeding heart liberal. Do you know the difference? I was brought up in a church that emphasized helping others. One of our hymns asks "have I done any good in the world today? Have I helped anyone in need?" I wasn't sure about Obama so I watched the Republican convention in 2008 & was horrified at them mocking community service. Its what I was trained to do in church. You claim to be a government grunt all your life (? I assume not as a child.) Sorry, I picked fruit at age 12 & babysat, then I worked in a movie theater at the concession stand. I worked at a fast food, then at a thrift store, then a laundry, then Montgomery Ward. I was 27 when I was hired by a local government so, sorry, not all my life. But I believe in helping my fellow humans. I work in law enforcement but I believe my clients can change. Most don't, but they might. They deserve the benefit of the doubt & a chance. I believe food stamps are necessary I don't believe we need a border wall & I assume I live closer to Mexico than you do. I think they need to enforce E-verify & sanction the hell out of employers who hire illegals. You know, emotional crap. I think we should have universal healthcare like most every other nation in the world. The stock market doesn't help main street. It exists for the rich mofos of the world. I seem to remember Donald questioned Obama's unemployment numbers. unemployment-rate-hits-50-year-low-what-does-the-number-reveal-and-concealMy clients are still having problems finding work Over on the politics board people were going on about the labor force under Obama. declining-labor-participation-rates/So, yeah, I question the rate because I'm still seeing people who can't find a job. On the other hand, the jerk-in-chief is threatening to shut down the border. I see soybean farmers struggling. /trump-tariffs-farmers-agriculture-866450If you can't see the problems out there, you need better comprehension skills
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Post by merh on Mar 31, 2019 4:47:11 GMT
You are SO WOUNDED, aren't you? I pointed out actors see playing murderers as expanding their skills. Are you comparing Trump supporters to murderers? Not to mention, so far as we know he is done with Marvel. It's in pre-production so hell knows if it will get made Ellen DeGeneres is a producer Steven Moffat is a writer. So kicking around since 2016... A film version of a British series. Apparently the creator tried to get it made in the US before that & failed so we're bordering on development hell. Why are guys so wounded anymore? Damnation Whether or not the series gets made is absolutely irrelevant. The fact is, Chris Evans is happy to play a homicidal maniac who abuses women and he isn't happy to play a casual Trump supporter who he had previously admired. You are that sensitive. Good heavens. I used to tell my kid "dont be like my clients" meaning think it out. Where is the challenge to playing Brady? How would it improve his skills? How about playing a monster? Something Evans isnt? There was a line once about the way to win an oscar was to "get ugly"-play an addict, or some other such extreme being. So you say playing a Trump supporter would be a satisfying experience? It would earn him an oscar?
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 31, 2019 6:25:32 GMT
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Post by sostie on Mar 31, 2019 8:22:58 GMT
Something is VERY wrong with you if you think Gisele Bundchen is "very ugly for a model"! These women are what models should look like. White and mostly blonde. How very progressive
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