Post by stargazer1682 on Apr 1, 2019 4:52:03 GMT
J'Onn's parable about race of shape shifters who lost their identity is interest and probably worth exploring, but it seems a little bit of a leap for J'Onn to be concerned about this happening to him. Ostensibly the other shape shifters forgot their original forms, etc. over time, years, maybe even centuries; which would make a lot of sense. It's not like we're talking about a shape shifter amnesia plague, I assume; he's talking about assimilating to other cultures and forms to such a degree as to lose neglect one's own natural behavior. This happens to people who live abroad for an extended period, speaking a foreign language almost exclusively; it's not uncommon for them to take on traces of an accent when they go back to speaking their native language. Or when an actor intentionally works to lose an accent or dialect, they have a harder time intentionally going back to it.
But it's questionable for that to be an issue with J'Onn now, all of a sudden. Any abilities he's regularly used since coming to Earth should stay honed and there's no reason for suddenly forgetting how to do anything we've seen him doing all this time.
For that matter, his realization that he's not a man of peace, like his father was, shouldn't be so ground shatter considering he'd been head of the DEO for many years. Of course the real reason is to take him out and send him down a tangent that leaves Kara with fewer people with similar powers to help her.... J'Onn really deserves his own series. In a way he almost makes me think of Angel from Buffy the Vampire Slayer; because it was Buffy's show he always had to play second fiddle and his character development was relatively limited, until he spun-off into his own series.
Of course James has powers now. Did anyone not see that coming?
(Or are they going to go a PTSD route for this story?)
Speak of the time J'Onn was in charge, it's really disappointing how they contrived J'Onn out of the DEO, just to give the appearance of promoting Alex, when they immediately undermine it by bringing in a character who essentially fills J'Onn's old role, with Alex as her subordinate.
It only just occurred to me, (or maybe I thought it before forgot....*gasp* am I also a shape shifter....
[sigh] No....still fat.....) - when the DEO demanded to know Kara's identity, why didn't they just create one for her to burn by "revealing" it to the DEO? With Brainy's help it would invariably have been fool proof.
"Press this once and I'll be there; if you press it twice I'll know not to come." First of all, phrasing. Second, where the hell did she pull that watch from? Third, if you don't want Kara to come (phrasing) why even push the buttons at all, much less press it twice?
Wait, they're just now giving Brainy his Legion ring back?? How much time has elapsed since J'Onn killed Manchest? That was two episodes ago....
I've never watched Inception, but I've got a sense that J'Onn's story is turning into a really lame knock-off of Inception...
There's something about the idea about shape shifters I've always thought interesting. It kind of goes back to Odo from Deep Space Nine; and how his species of shape shifters were naturally just goo that could reshape itself into anything they wanted. I've always thought it would make sense that, for a species like that, that they might be able to procreate simply breaking off piece of themselves and letting it mature and redevelop its shape shifting skills. There'd be some trace memory, which would probably help to some degree in developing those skills, but through its own unique experiences would becomes an independent entity, with it own unique personality, different from its parent. Add to that telepathy and a whole host of possibilities open up; not the least of which being the ability to essentially move one's consciousness out of a dying form into a fresh, healthy one. A little easier than some, like the DS9 changelings, with their default form goo and each changling being physically the same as one another, add a way to link the mind of a dying shape shifter and a new baby shape shifter frament and upload the consciousness of the dying shape shifter
Obviously DC Comics Martians aren't like that, but I definitely think there are deeper implications of J'Onn taking on memories from his father.
So when Lena says she thought the FBI had already gone through her papers and things, to track down leads to finding Lex; does she mean the real FBI or the DEO pretending to be the FBI? Since the DEO is apparently the only agency not looking for Lex, it might be safe to assume it was the real FBI, yet it was Alex's DEO team who initially found and rescued her.....
Bitsie's daughter are away at camp? A camp for what? It's freaking March. Is it not March on the show right now? Why aren't Bitsie's daughters in school? What is Bitsie hiding? Did she murder her daughters? Did you bake them into your pies?
I need to know that they're all right. I want the truth Bitsie! Stop lying to us!
Ha, called it before Supergirl.
Come on, who would forget to use oven mitts when taking something hot out of the oven, just because you have powers now? That wouldn't be common enough behavior yet to do without thinking.
I'm glad they see the upside to Lena's work; although technically if there hadn't be any black-k, Lex wouldn't have given himself cancer to push Lena to develop a cure and wouldn't have had James shot to create a greater motivation to complete the work....
Serious, Eve's password is "ILoveLex"? Why not just make it "Guest"? And why would someone as smart as Eve have her computer password set to show the characters?
Clearly none of the characters have watched Archer, or they would know it's pointless to shoot at a freakin' cyborg, because the bullets will just bounce right off them.
And why can't J'Onn be "keeper of the Letters" and not be a man of peace? They even said how J'Onn's father wasn't entirely a peaceful man himself....
I feel like I missed something; they thought Manchester Black shot James? Didn't Lex reveal his whole plan to Lena?
Yes, Kara, we saw the woman on TV transform in front of the entire country into Eve and back again, using what was quite obviously the identity cloaking technology created for aliens. Surely that's going to be major news and some deep investigations into some type of fraud in congress will take place.
But if Eve was going to replace someone in congress, why didn't she replace the congresswoman Ben met with earlier and said she was going to vote no? She seemed to be the sway vote that 7 or 8 other votes would follow; so she'd be the one that needed to vote yes.....
I have mixed feelings about the way they neutralized Kara and brought in the double..... On the one hand, undeniably effective, but on the other..... I don't know, it just seems convenient for Lex and Eve to cook up a plan that incapacitated Kara just long enough; and then the heavy handed way they brought the double in to play on everyone's fears... I can't put my finger on it, but there's something about it that doesn't sit well with me; and maybe it's just the fact that some cockamamie plan to frame Supergirl actually worked.
At least the people at the DEO aren't total idiots....
I guess they're going with the PTSD story. Don't fucking screw this up.
[sigh]They're probably going to screw this up....
But it's questionable for that to be an issue with J'Onn now, all of a sudden. Any abilities he's regularly used since coming to Earth should stay honed and there's no reason for suddenly forgetting how to do anything we've seen him doing all this time.
For that matter, his realization that he's not a man of peace, like his father was, shouldn't be so ground shatter considering he'd been head of the DEO for many years. Of course the real reason is to take him out and send him down a tangent that leaves Kara with fewer people with similar powers to help her.... J'Onn really deserves his own series. In a way he almost makes me think of Angel from Buffy the Vampire Slayer; because it was Buffy's show he always had to play second fiddle and his character development was relatively limited, until he spun-off into his own series.
Of course James has powers now. Did anyone not see that coming?
(Or are they going to go a PTSD route for this story?)
Speak of the time J'Onn was in charge, it's really disappointing how they contrived J'Onn out of the DEO, just to give the appearance of promoting Alex, when they immediately undermine it by bringing in a character who essentially fills J'Onn's old role, with Alex as her subordinate.
It only just occurred to me, (or maybe I thought it before forgot....*gasp* am I also a shape shifter....
[sigh] No....still fat.....) - when the DEO demanded to know Kara's identity, why didn't they just create one for her to burn by "revealing" it to the DEO? With Brainy's help it would invariably have been fool proof."Press this once and I'll be there; if you press it twice I'll know not to come." First of all, phrasing. Second, where the hell did she pull that watch from? Third, if you don't want Kara to come (phrasing) why even push the buttons at all, much less press it twice?
Wait, they're just now giving Brainy his Legion ring back?? How much time has elapsed since J'Onn killed Manchest? That was two episodes ago....
I've never watched Inception, but I've got a sense that J'Onn's story is turning into a really lame knock-off of Inception...
There's something about the idea about shape shifters I've always thought interesting. It kind of goes back to Odo from Deep Space Nine; and how his species of shape shifters were naturally just goo that could reshape itself into anything they wanted. I've always thought it would make sense that, for a species like that, that they might be able to procreate simply breaking off piece of themselves and letting it mature and redevelop its shape shifting skills. There'd be some trace memory, which would probably help to some degree in developing those skills, but through its own unique experiences would becomes an independent entity, with it own unique personality, different from its parent. Add to that telepathy and a whole host of possibilities open up; not the least of which being the ability to essentially move one's consciousness out of a dying form into a fresh, healthy one. A little easier than some, like the DS9 changelings, with their default form goo and each changling being physically the same as one another, add a way to link the mind of a dying shape shifter and a new baby shape shifter frament and upload the consciousness of the dying shape shifter
which they sort of can do through the Great Link
Obviously DC Comics Martians aren't like that, but I definitely think there are deeper implications of J'Onn taking on memories from his father.
So when Lena says she thought the FBI had already gone through her papers and things, to track down leads to finding Lex; does she mean the real FBI or the DEO pretending to be the FBI? Since the DEO is apparently the only agency not looking for Lex, it might be safe to assume it was the real FBI, yet it was Alex's DEO team who initially found and rescued her.....
Bitsie's daughter are away at camp? A camp for what? It's freaking March. Is it not March on the show right now? Why aren't Bitsie's daughters in school? What is Bitsie hiding? Did she murder her daughters? Did you bake them into your pies?
I need to know that they're all right. I want the truth Bitsie! Stop lying to us!
Ha, called it before Supergirl.
Come on, who would forget to use oven mitts when taking something hot out of the oven, just because you have powers now? That wouldn't be common enough behavior yet to do without thinking.
I'm glad they see the upside to Lena's work; although technically if there hadn't be any black-k, Lex wouldn't have given himself cancer to push Lena to develop a cure and wouldn't have had James shot to create a greater motivation to complete the work....
Serious, Eve's password is "ILoveLex"? Why not just make it "Guest"? And why would someone as smart as Eve have her computer password set to show the characters?
Clearly none of the characters have watched Archer, or they would know it's pointless to shoot at a freakin' cyborg, because the bullets will just bounce right off them.
And why can't J'Onn be "keeper of the Letters" and not be a man of peace? They even said how J'Onn's father wasn't entirely a peaceful man himself....
I feel like I missed something; they thought Manchester Black shot James? Didn't Lex reveal his whole plan to Lena?
Yes, Kara, we saw the woman on TV transform in front of the entire country into Eve and back again, using what was quite obviously the identity cloaking technology created for aliens. Surely that's going to be major news and some deep investigations into some type of fraud in congress will take place.
But if Eve was going to replace someone in congress, why didn't she replace the congresswoman Ben met with earlier and said she was going to vote no? She seemed to be the sway vote that 7 or 8 other votes would follow; so she'd be the one that needed to vote yes.....
I have mixed feelings about the way they neutralized Kara and brought in the double..... On the one hand, undeniably effective, but on the other..... I don't know, it just seems convenient for Lex and Eve to cook up a plan that incapacitated Kara just long enough; and then the heavy handed way they brought the double in to play on everyone's fears... I can't put my finger on it, but there's something about it that doesn't sit well with me; and maybe it's just the fact that some cockamamie plan to frame Supergirl actually worked.
At least the people at the DEO aren't total idiots....
I guess they're going with the PTSD story. Don't fucking screw this up.
[sigh]They're probably going to screw this up....
and to be fair it was pretty obvious she was going to be a villain 'cause of her character's long history with Lex Luthor but it is interesting how long they spread this out for and I think they might have been waiting to get the clearance to use Lex Luthor from Warner Bros and when they got it they decided they were finally going to reveal she was working for him the whole time. I don't see the character lasting very long in the show now though 'cause she is not really a major threat to anybody and I am pretty sure Supergirl should be able to flick her with her with her finger and she would be knocked out. I think at this point it is safe to say Lena is going to stay good and won't become a villain and I could see Lena ending up with Alex. They look like they could be hinting at it but they seem to have forgotten Alex is a lesbian the past two seasons and I remember reading there were plans to have her with Sam but that didn't go anywhere after Sam was written out of the show. 
