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Post by gspdude on Dec 14, 2019 14:31:14 GMT
The 1st time I saw The Shining was only a few days after I saw Popeye, and every time I looked at Wendy, I saw Olive Oyl. So not only did I find her annoying, but I couldn't take her seriously. I've seen The Shining enough times now that I see Wendy only as Wendy, but I still find her annoying.
I've never had a problem with Doc.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 18, 2019 12:56:19 GMT
Perhaps I’m reinventing the wheel here, but has anyone else gotten an extremely Pinteresque vibe from The Shining?
Particularly early Pinter, with, e.g., the name changes (Charles vs. Delbert) and other things that don’t add up, though they seem like they should. Also, what a perfect example of a “comedy of menace,” with a lot of humor (Jack’s Kabuki performance) and a lot of small talk, yet with the suggestion that more is going on underneath. (No surprise, then, that Pinter wrote a play called The Caretaker.)
And, now that I think of it, The Shining often feels like a play, or at least an adaptation of one; for one thing, it’s extremely dialogue-heavy, unusually so for a horror movie (if, that is, you can call it a horror movie).
I should qualify all this, though, because The Shining’s actual dialogue isn’t all that Pinteresque. The Pinter influence I’m noting is more thematic than dialogic.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Dec 18, 2019 17:54:26 GMT
Perhaps I’m reinventing the wheel here, but has anyone else gotten an extremely Pinteresque vibe from The Shining? Particularly early Pinter, with, e.g., the name changes (Charles vs. Delbert) and other things that don’t add up, though they seem like they should. Also, what a perfect example of a “comedy of menace,” with a lot of humor (Jack’s Kabuki performance) and a lot of small talk, yet with the suggestion that more is going on underneath. (No surprise, then, that Pinter wrote a play called The Caretaker.) And, now that I think of it, The Shining often feels like a play, or at least an adaptation of one; for one thing, it’s extremely dialogue-heavy, unusually so for a horror movie (if, that is, you can call it a horror movie). I should qualify all this, though, because The Shining’s actual dialogue isn’t all that Pinteresque. The Pinter influence I’m noting is more thematic than dialogic. Interesting take. After all of the 'Pinter in horror' talk that came about from the discussions of The Lighthouse that I saw, this is an interesting companion to that. It might be really interesting to see a stage adaptation of The Shining. Particularly Kubrick's The Shining as opposed to Stephen King's, I think. As cinematic as the movie obviously is, I could totally see some of the iconography working on stage to cue that same sort of feeling, and some of the abstract and elusive story telling could really work in that medium if handled correctly.
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Post by Nalkarj on Dec 18, 2019 18:20:55 GMT
Perhaps I’m reinventing the wheel here, but has anyone else gotten an extremely Pinteresque vibe from The Shining? Particularly early Pinter, with, e.g., the name changes (Charles vs. Delbert) and other things that don’t add up, though they seem like they should. Also, what a perfect example of a “comedy of menace,” with a lot of humor (Jack’s Kabuki performance) and a lot of small talk, yet with the suggestion that more is going on underneath. (No surprise, then, that Pinter wrote a play called The Caretaker.) And, now that I think of it, The Shining often feels like a play, or at least an adaptation of one; for one thing, it’s extremely dialogue-heavy, unusually so for a horror movie (if, that is, you can call it a horror movie). I should qualify all this, though, because The Shining’s actual dialogue isn’t all that Pinteresque. The Pinter influence I’m noting is more thematic than dialogic. Interesting take. After all of the 'Pinter in horror' talk that came about from the discussions of The Lighthouse that I saw, this is an interesting companion to that. It might be really interesting to see a stage adaptation of The Shining. Particularly Kubrick's The Shining as opposed to Stephen King's, I think. As cinematic as the movie obviously is, I could totally see some of the iconography working on stage to cue that same sort of feeling, and some of the abstract and elusive story telling could really work in that medium if handled correctly. Thanks. I only thought of it this morning, and that sent me off Googling it, but I can only find a few reviews that made this case. As for a Shining on stage, there’s that opera I’d like to see, though that’s based on King rather than Kubrick.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Dec 31, 2019 21:37:02 GMT
In Kubrick 's version, I couldn't stand Jack and wanted to drop kick him off the mountain. He's such an angry asshole.
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