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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Apr 7, 2019 20:39:58 GMT
revealed to be Targaryns, not Tyrion.
Truth.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 8, 2019 2:02:32 GMT
revealed to be Targaryns, not Tyrion. Truth. Dunno about the books, but I doubt that will turn out to be the case in the show, Jon being revealed as one pretty much precludes anyone else as it would likely come across as farcical at this juncture.
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Post by Seto on Apr 8, 2019 7:53:35 GMT
No chance in the show. As Marendil said, we have Jon already as the secret Targ. I very much doubt this will happen in the books as well, but it is more of a possibility there. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 8, 2019 8:36:13 GMT
They're lions. I'll eat anyone who claims otherwise  |
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 8, 2019 12:34:21 GMT
This would be the dumbest plot twist ever conceived and this show would never do something so baseless and dumb.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Apr 8, 2019 21:18:48 GMT
This would be the dumbest plot twist ever conceived and this show would never do something so baseless and dumb. Nope, it is already proven by: 1) The show's theme of patricide. Jaime killing the Mad King (who would have been his father) would fit into it. 2) Jaime and Cersei, and their children being notably blonde. 3) The Targaryen history of either greatness (Jaime) or madness (Jeoffrey). 4) The Targaryen history of brother marrying sister.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 8, 2019 23:33:43 GMT
This would be the dumbest plot twist ever conceived and this show would never do something so baseless and dumb. Nope, it is already proven by: 1) The show's theme of patricide. Jaime killing the Mad King (who would have been his father) would fit into it. 2) Jaime and Cersei, and their children being notably blonde. 3) The Targaryen history of either greatness (Jaime) or madness (Jeoffrey). 4) The Targaryen history of brother marrying sister. And here goes another dumbfuck's attempt at logic. Targaryens have silver hair, idiot and marrying sibling is a conscious tradition, not something that happens out of psychological peculiarity. If you're going to be stupid in public, be prepared to be called out for it.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Apr 9, 2019 23:59:26 GMT
Nope, it is already proven by: 1) The show's theme of patricide. Jaime killing the Mad King (who would have been his father) would fit into it. 2) Jaime and Cersei, and their children being notably blonde. 3) The Targaryen history of either greatness (Jaime) or madness (Jeoffrey). 4) The Targaryen history of brother marrying sister. And here goes another dumbfuck's attempt at logic. Targaryens have silver hair, idiot and marrying sibling is a conscious tradition, not something that happens out of psychological peculiarity. If you're going to be stupid in public, be prepared to be called out for it. Whatever. Get ready for a nice tall glass of I-told-you-so.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 10, 2019 0:42:38 GMT
And here goes another dumbfuck's attempt at logic. Targaryens have silver hair, idiot and marrying sibling is a conscious tradition, not something that happens out of psychological peculiarity. If you're going to be stupid in public, be prepared to be called out for it. Whatever. Get ready for a nice tall glass of I-told-you-so. Get ready to be taken as a fool for the rest of your life.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Apr 10, 2019 0:44:30 GMT
Whatever. Get ready for a nice tall glass of I-told-you-so. Get ready to be taken as a fool for the rest of your life. The rest of my life? Even if I am wrong a doubt that it will haunt me for more than a few months.
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Post by Nightman on Apr 10, 2019 1:24:17 GMT
Jaime, Cersei, and Tyrion are all Targaryens. I doubt it will be revealed in the show.
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Post by Seto on Apr 10, 2019 4:26:22 GMT
Jaime, Cersei, and Tyrion are all Targaryens. I find it interesting that you believe that. Care to go into why you think that, a little further??
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Post by Nightman on Apr 10, 2019 5:24:10 GMT
Jaime, Cersei, and Tyrion are all Targaryens. I find it interesting that you believe that. Care to go into why you think that, a little further?? There are subtle clues sprinkled throughout the books. Tyrion's white hair and heterochromia (the only characters in the book with it are Targs), Tommen's white hair, Jaime comparing Cersei to Aerys because of her burning the Tower of the Hand, Jaime's weirwood dream where Joanna pretty much confirms Tywin is not his father, Tywin saying he is not Tyrion's father, Tyrion's dragon thing. Those are the ones from the top of my head, there's probably more in the books I can't remember at the moment.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 10, 2019 6:02:26 GMT
I find it interesting that you believe that. Care to go into why you think that, a little further?? There are subtle clues sprinkled throughout the books. Tyrion's white hair and heterochromia (the only characters in the book with it are Targs), Tommen's white hair, Jaime comparing Cersei to Aerys because of her burning the Tower of the Hand, Jaime's weirwood dream where Joanna pretty much confirms Tywin is not his father, Tywin saying he is not Tyrion's father, Tyrion's dragon thing. Those are the ones from the top of my head, there's probably more in the books I can't remember at the moment. The trouble is that GRRM is just the kind who would sprinkle the stuff with misleading "clues" as well as real ones. You could over-analyse it and still be wrong half of the time.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 10, 2019 6:04:22 GMT
Get ready to be taken as a fool for the rest of your life. The rest of my life? Even if I am wrong a doubt that it will haunt me for more than a few months. Being a fool is not a matter of being wrong once. It keeps happening and people see it each time you bring up illogical arguments, even when your guess is right. The only safe course is to shut up for good.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 10, 2019 9:23:19 GMT
Jaime, Cersei, and Tyrion are all Targaryens. I doubt it will be revealed in the show. Nah... Tyrion is Tywin's son. I think the conversation between Genna and Jaime Lannister confirms it. And it's also poetic, as Tyrion was despised by his father. If anyone is a Targaryen, it's Jaime and Cersei. For the record I think all three are Lannisters.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 10, 2019 11:55:35 GMT
This would be the dumbest plot twist ever conceived and this show would never do something so baseless and dumb. Nope, it is already proven by: 1) The show's theme of patricide. Jaime killing the Mad King (who would have been his father) would fit into it. 2) Jaime and Cersei, and their children being notably blonde. 3) The Targaryen history of either greatness (Jaime) or madness (Jeoffrey). 4) The Targaryen history of brother marrying sister. Not of this proves anything. Anyone who even half pays attention to this series knows this is a dumb theory with absolutely no backing. There have been slight clues that COULD leave you to believe Tyrion is a Targ, but he is not and it would be dumb also. Would you even want this? Think about how baseless it makes 80% of their story. The family dynamic of the Lannisters is what makes them the most interesting characters. There is NOTHING, and I really mean nothing, in the books or show that even hint that Cersei and Jaime are not Lannisters.
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Post by Nightman on Apr 10, 2019 13:33:28 GMT
Jaime, Cersei, and Tyrion are all Targaryens. I doubt it will be revealed in the show. Nah... Tyrion is Tywin's son. I think the conversation between Genna and Jaime Lannister confirms it. And it's also poetic, as Tyrion was despised by his father. If anyone is a Targaryen, it's Jaime and Cersei. For the record I think all three are Lannisters. Genna and Jamie's conversation is the only hint against Tyrion not being half Targ. Either way, all three are still Lannisters. Everybody seems to forget that Joanna was a Lannister too, Tywin's first cousin.
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Post by Seto on Apr 11, 2019 7:00:59 GMT
There are subtle clues sprinkled throughout the books. Tyrion's white hair and heterochromia (the only characters in the book with it are Targs), Tommen's white hair, Jaime comparing Cersei to Aerys because of her burning the Tower of the Hand, Jaime's weirwood dream where Joanna pretty much confirms Tywin is not his father, Tywin saying he is not Tyrion's father, Tyrion's dragon thing. Those are the ones from the top of my head, there's probably more in the books I can't remember at the moment. I must admit there is compelling evidence about Tyrion potentially being a secret Targ. Jamie and Cersei, may be stretching it a bit. I personally lean towards all three being Tywin's children. Mainly because it works better for Tyrion's character arc, killing his father and then possibly replacing him. You could be right though, in the books anyway. I absolutely agree that it aint happening in the show. By the way have you heard the time travelling fetus theory?? lol
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Post by Nightman on Apr 11, 2019 9:23:43 GMT
There are subtle clues sprinkled throughout the books. Tyrion's white hair and heterochromia (the only characters in the book with it are Targs), Tommen's white hair, Jaime comparing Cersei to Aerys because of her burning the Tower of the Hand, Jaime's weirwood dream where Joanna pretty much confirms Tywin is not his father, Tywin saying he is not Tyrion's father, Tyrion's dragon thing. Those are the ones from the top of my head, there's probably more in the books I can't remember at the moment. I must admit there is compelling evidence about Tyrion potentially being a secret Targ. Jamie and Cersei, may be stretching it a bit. I personally lean towards all three being Tywin's children. Mainly because it works better for Tyrion's character arc, killing his father and then possibly replacing him. You could be right though, in the books anyway. I absolutely agree that it aint happening in the show. By the way have you heard the time travelling fetus theory?? lol The time traveling fetus theory is magnificent and hilarious, and I wish I had thought of it.
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