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Post by Lord Death Man on Apr 9, 2019 14:38:10 GMT
It's funny how Marvel movies always get pegged as "kiddie." One of those two films was squarely designed for the enjoyment of a child, and the other was not (based on its so-called political undercurrents). On that basis, I don't see the two movies as being strictly comparable, unless of course, I get to compare Dumbo and Robocop next. Kinda is relevant comparing Shazam with CM It appears to be more relevant to compare CM to Robocop.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 15:31:15 GMT
But I thought you hated humorous kiddie movies? |
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 15:32:38 GMT
SHAZAM! was waaaaaay better.
Now that's how you lose an eye!!! Agreed. Shazam! is much better than Captain Marvel. The Carol Danvers character was like a robot with no personality at all. And the writing in Captain Marvel is awful. Nick Fury getting his eye scratched out by a house pet. That's as lame as Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer getting defeated by a silly Dance-Off. So you're saying you hate that Shazam was goofily dancing in his movie? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 9, 2019 16:19:29 GMT
Agreed. Shazam! is much better than Captain Marvel. The Carol Danvers character was like a robot with no personality at all. And the writing in Captain Marvel is awful. Nick Fury getting his eye scratched out by a house pet. That's as lame as Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer getting defeated by a silly Dance-Off. Wait. I am seeing Shazam today again I believe. I thought we had some dance stuff in there... A Flerken is not a housecat any more than Groot is an apple tree. A Flerken is a Kree house pet just like a cat is a human house pet. Nick Fury got his eye scratched out by a house pet.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 9, 2019 16:21:18 GMT
It's funny how Marvel movies always get pegged as "kiddie." One of those two films was squarely designed for the enjoyment of a child, and the other was not (based on its so-called political undercurrents). On that basis, I don't see the two movies as being strictly comparable, unless of course, I get to compare Dumbo and Robocop next. Kinda is relevant comparing Shazam with CM So Captain Marvel ripped off Robocop.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 9, 2019 16:23:09 GMT
Agreed. Shazam! is much better than Captain Marvel. The Carol Danvers character was like a robot with no personality at all. And the writing in Captain Marvel is awful. Nick Fury getting his eye scratched out by a house pet. That's as lame as Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer getting defeated by a silly Dance-Off. So you're saying you hate that Shazam was goofily dancing in his movie? The villain wasn't defeated by a goofy dance-off in Shazam! Ronan is supposed to be a Big Bad Destroyer and Thanos' herald, yet Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer was defeated by a goofy Dance-Off.
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Post by bud47 on Apr 9, 2019 16:33:03 GMT
So you're saying you hate that Shazam was goofily dancing in his movie? The villain wasn't defeated by a goofy dance-off in Shazam! Ronan is supposed to be a Big Bad Destroyer and Thanos' herald, yet Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer was defeated by a goofy Dance-Off. So DC films get a pass and are free from scrutiny basically because of their studio logo. Gotcha.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 9, 2019 16:49:21 GMT
The hypocrisy on the part of the MCU haters is really stunning. There's only about 4 of them left posting regularly but they are persistent.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 9, 2019 16:53:48 GMT
But I thought you hated humorous kiddie movies? If it ain't the MCU its perfectly okay to like them.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 16:54:26 GMT
So you're saying you hate that Shazam was goofily dancing in his movie? The villain wasn't defeated by a goofy dance-off in Shazam! Ronan is supposed to be a Big Bad Destroyer and Thanos' herald, yet Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer was defeated by a goofy Dance-Off. You're right, Sivana wasn't defeated by a dance-off, but then again neither was Ronan (you'd know this if you actually watched the movie). Sivana was defeated by basically getting goaded into releasing his powers in order to prove he wasn't a coward. I mean, I liked Shazam and all, but you have to admit that was a pretty lame and cheesy way to defeat a villain.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 16:59:18 GMT
The hypocrisy on the part of the MCU haters is really stunning. There's only about 4 of them left posting regularly but they are persistent. Summers and Tristan are no longer around, so the remaining trolls need to work double-time to make up for their staff shortage.
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Post by HorrorMetal on Apr 9, 2019 17:08:47 GMT
Shazam by far!
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 9, 2019 17:19:38 GMT
Shazam! I thought was the stronger movie overall- better lead character, more balanced tone, more satisfying storytelling with a stronger and a more accessible message. That said the hypocrisy from the number of Marvel Cinematic Universe trolls, and you know who they are, on this site is nothing short of eye roll inducing - Years and years they tell us that Marvel Studios only churns out child-friendly products with repetitive use of immature humor and too much camp and yet they embrace Shazam!, and also Aquaman, which are no more or less guilty of what they slam Marvel Studios for. I mean, Shazam! is not exactly a piece of work comparable to that of a Werner Herzog or David Lynch or David Cronenberg now, is it? Or, in the realm of DC movies, Watchmen or The Dark Knight or V For Vendetta.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 9, 2019 17:20:59 GMT
So you're saying you hate that Shazam was goofily dancing in his movie? The villain wasn't defeated by a goofy dance-off in Shazam! Ronan is supposed to be a Big Bad Destroyer and Thanos' herald, yet Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer was defeated by a goofy Dance-Off. But like Skaathar said, Shazam was cracking jokes and one liners during fight scenes and acted like goofball (similar to Chris Pratt in Guardians of the Galaxy). You claim the Avengers do that (which they don't). So why is okay for DC to treat war like a big joke while lives are endangered?
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Post by sostie on Apr 9, 2019 20:03:56 GMT
So you're saying you hate that Shazam was goofily dancing in his movie? The villain wasn't defeated by a goofy dance-off in Shazam! Ronan is supposed to be a Big Bad Destroyer and Thanos' herald, yet Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer was defeated by a goofy Dance-Off. Let's settle this once and for all....Quill performs his dance, says it's a dance off...and then? Does Ronan die? Does he surrender? How exactly did the dance defeat him? You're silence will be taken as reluctance to admit you are wrong.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 9, 2019 21:38:47 GMT
The villain wasn't defeated by a goofy dance-off in Shazam! Ronan is supposed to be a Big Bad Destroyer and Thanos' herald, yet Ronan the Big Bad Destroyer was defeated by a goofy Dance-Off. You're right, Sivana wasn't defeated by a dance-off, but then again neither was Ronan (you'd know this if you actually watched the movie). Sivana was defeated by basically getting goaded into releasing his powers in order to prove he wasn't a coward. I mean, I liked Shazam and all, but you have to admit that was a pretty lame and cheesy way to defeat a villain. Not exactly. It was actually Envy who was goaded into doing that.
Mind you, Ronan also wasn’t defeated by a dance-off.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 9, 2019 21:45:07 GMT
You're right, Sivana wasn't defeated by a dance-off, but then again neither was Ronan (you'd know this if you actually watched the movie). Sivana was defeated by basically getting goaded into releasing his powers in order to prove he wasn't a coward. I mean, I liked Shazam and all, but you have to admit that was a pretty lame and cheesy way to defeat a villain. Not exactly. It was actually Envy who was goaded into doing that. Ssssshhhhhh! Don't say that. I want to see if DC Fan actually knows what he's talking about.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 9, 2019 21:46:39 GMT
Not exactly. It was actually Envy who was goaded into doing that. Ssssshhhhhh! Don't say that. I want to see if DC Fan actually knows what he's talking about. The answer to that is probably no.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 9, 2019 22:28:25 GMT
Back to the Future. The movie I watched last week.
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 9, 2019 23:01:21 GMT
But I thought you hated humorous kiddie movies? Compared to a lot of mcu movies it wasn't that bad.
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