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Post by Aj_June on Apr 11, 2019 12:08:39 GMT
A new analysis from YouGov Profiles of nearly 12,000 people who affiliate with Christianity and a control set of 39,000 British people representative of the whole population reveals some startling juxtapositions in belief. Asked to say which of 14 spiritual or paranormal phenomena they definitely do or do not believe in, only 41% of Christians say they definitely believe in a Creator while 18% say they do not. Christians are more likely to believe in fate or destiny (46% definitely believe, 18% do not), not necessarily a tenet of Christianity, than either heaven (44% believe, 19% do not) or an everlasting soul (36% believe, 19% do not). And there is a tendency to believe in the friendlier parts of faith than those which are difficult to contemplate. People who say they are Christian are more likely to definitely believe in heaven (44%) than hell (27%), and more likely to definitely believe in angels (35%) than the devil (24%). British people as a whole are most likely to believe in fate (36%) and alien life (30%), while in net terms belief in ghosts (-9) and karma (-11) is more prevelant than belief in a Creator (-21) or heaven (-21). In 1983 only 31% of British people said they had no religion, which has now risen to just under half of all adults. In 1983 only 2% said they belonged to a non-Christian religion and this figure has now risen to 8%.
P.S - In Britain, most of the people who identify as Christians are Christians only in name. Christianity is more or less just a cultural term for majority of those who claim to be Christians.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 11, 2019 12:16:44 GMT
Not much of a difference between beliefs regarding destiny when it comes to Brit Christians and average Brits. Quite surprising isn't it. I believe the survey is quite representative of the beliefs of people given its size, especially as the survey conductor is a reputable agency.
Note - An average brit includes Christians and non-Christians. However, because the population size of the random survey is very large (39,000 for the control group) you can rest assure that statistics closely represent the actual population.
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Post by geode on Apr 11, 2019 12:47:21 GMT
Not much of a difference between beliefs regarding ghosts and creator when it comes to Brit Christians and average Brits. However, belief in magic and the devil is considerably stronger among those who identify as Christians But a belief in after-life is stronger among non-Christian Brits. Quite surprising isn't it. I believe the survey is quite representative of the beliefs of people given its size, especially as the survey conductor is a reputable agency. Note - An average brit includes Christians and non-Christians. However, because the population size of the random survey is very large (39,000 for the control group) you can rest assure that statistics closely represents the actual population. From the graph I read just the opposite about an afterlife. More of those identifying as Christians believed in one and fewer did not. Belief in magic was very close between the two groups.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 11, 2019 12:48:42 GMT
Not much of a difference between beliefs regarding ghosts and creator when it comes to Brit Christians and average Brits. However, belief in magic and the devil is considerably stronger among those who identify as Christians But a belief in after-life is stronger among non-Christian Brits. Quite surprising isn't it. I believe the survey is quite representative of the beliefs of people given its size, especially as the survey conductor is a reputable agency. Note - An average brit includes Christians and non-Christians. However, because the population size of the random survey is very large (39,000 for the control group) you can rest assure that statistics closely represents the actual population. From the graph I read just the opposite about an afterlife. More of those identifying as Christians believed in one and fewer did not. Belief in magic was very close between the two groups. You are right. I forgot that it was do not believe. I have edited the error.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 11, 2019 13:05:53 GMT
Not much of a difference between beliefs regarding ghosts and creator when it comes to Brit Christians and average Brits. However, belief in magic and the devil is considerably stronger among those who identify as Christians But a belief in after-life is stronger among non-Christian Brits. Quite surprising isn't it. I believe the survey is quite representative of the beliefs of people given its size, especially as the survey conductor is a reputable agency. Note - An average brit includes Christians and non-Christians. However, because the population size of the random survey is very large (39,000 for the control group) you can rest assure that statistics closely represents the actual population. From the graph I read just the opposite about an afterlife. More of those identifying as Christians believed in one and fewer did not. Belief in magic was very close between the two groups. It is a belief alien life/UFO in which average brits are more sure of belief than Christian Brits.
I do not find a belief in alien life as anything supernatural. There are about 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe and consequently even more stars and even more planets. Life is possible on other places in lower or higher forms and aliens would be the organisms on those distant places. That said belief in aliens visiting earth is without any reasonable evidence.
Do you have any idea what UFO signifies as in the sense employed in the question?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 15:22:04 GMT
Sure... didn't you read/see the Harry Potter series?
Haven't you noticed that every fantasy/magic movie has characters with British accents?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Apr 11, 2019 16:29:58 GMT
I would like to see a breakdown of religious beliefs between Northern and Southern England, I would imagine one is considerably more Christian than the other.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 20:51:32 GMT
only 41% of Christians say they definitely believe in a Creator while 18% say they do not. This should be impossible, but I don't find it hard to believe at all. I've known As you indicated, most people who would call themselves 'christian' don't really think about or participate in the religion at all. It's just something you say when you're asked what you believe, and churches are just a place you go for christenings, weddings, and funerals. Only something like 1 in 50 people attend church regularly, and the figure is falling.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 11, 2019 20:58:59 GMT
only 41% of Christians say they definitely believe in a Creator while 18% say they do not. This should be impossible, but I don't find it hard to believe at all. I've known As you indicated, most people who would call themselves 'christian' don't really think about or participate in the religion at all. It's just something you say when you're asked what you believe, and churches are just a place you go for christenings, weddings, and funerals. Only something like 1 in 50 people attend church regularly, and the figure is falling. Yes, another survey found out that non-religious Americans are more religious than religious brits. Many Christians in UK are Christians for culturally reasons only.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 11, 2019 21:06:47 GMT
I would like to see a breakdown of religious beliefs between Northern and Southern England, I would imagine one is considerably more Christian than the other. There doesn't appear to be any significant differences based on regions.
Above data is for England and Wales only.
Wales seems to be the least religious. London the most. Other areas in England seem to be similar in distribution.
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Post by goz on Apr 11, 2019 22:04:32 GMT
The answer obviously lies in their wonderful yet creepy old historic buildings which a said to be redolent with ghosts!
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 11, 2019 22:20:24 GMT
The answer obviously lies in their wonderful yet creepy old historic buildings which a said to be redolent with ghosts! Doesn't your daughter live in England?
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Post by goz on Apr 11, 2019 22:24:54 GMT
The answer obviously lies in their wonderful yet creepy old historic buildings which a said to be redolent with ghosts! Doesn't your daughter live in England? Yes, one of them lives in Buckinghamshire. We visit yearly or they us. They are coming to Oz for Xmas this year. I was there last July nannying for them during the school hols! Only saw a few ghosts!
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Post by Stammerhead on Apr 12, 2019 0:47:43 GMT
I don’t believe in ghosts but there is a memorial in Barking for people in the area who died from asbestos related diseases which, at night, looks like a ghost.  |
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Post by politicidal on Apr 12, 2019 1:37:51 GMT
Those godless heathens.
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Post by goz on Apr 12, 2019 1:54:40 GMT
I don’t believe in ghosts but there is a memorial in Barking for people in the area who died from asbestos related diseases which, at night, looks like a ghost. ...and/ or a hole in the wall or glory hole!
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Post by Zos on Apr 12, 2019 13:47:13 GMT
This should be impossible, but I don't find it hard to believe at all. I've known As you indicated, most people who would call themselves 'christian' don't really think about or participate in the religion at all. It's just something you say when you're asked what you believe, and churches are just a place you go for christenings, weddings, and funerals. Only something like 1 in 50 people attend church regularly, and the figure is falling. Yes, another survey found out that non-religious Americans are more religious than religious brits. Many Christians in UK are Christians for culturally reasons only. That's because we got shot of a load of the religious nutters to the US. Also we don't really have many tiny communities that coalesce around a local church system. People also tend to be quietly religious over here if they are whereas there seems to be a lot of shouting from the rooftops about it in the US. Plus, we are probably happier to be honest about thinking it's cobblers over here whereas not being religious can probably affect ones job etc in the US .
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Post by Stammerhead on Apr 12, 2019 14:00:04 GMT
I don’t believe in ghosts but there is a memorial in Barking for people in the area who died from asbestos related diseases which, at night, looks like a ghost. ...and/ or a hole in the wall or glory hole! Behave yourself, GameBoy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 14:01:12 GMT
Yes, another survey found out that non-religious Americans are more religious than religious brits. Many Christians in UK are Christians for culturally reasons only. That's because we got shot of a load of the religious nutters to the US. Also we don't really have many tiny communities that coalesce around a local church system. People also tend to be quietly religious over here if they are whereas there seems to be a lot of shouting from the rooftops about it in the US. Plus, we are probably happier to be honest about thinking it's cobblers over here whereas not being religious can probably affect ones job etc in the US . Well yeah... we largely just practice our own religions, or atheism, and let others practice theirs. When I lived on a Catholic Island in the Outer Hebrides, US fundo evangelists used to come round telling us we were going to hell... I let two in once for a chat. It didn't end well. It went bad on them. |
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Post by Zos on Apr 12, 2019 14:36:30 GMT
That's because we got shot of a load of the religious nutters to the US. Also we don't really have many tiny communities that coalesce around a local church system. People also tend to be quietly religious over here if they are whereas there seems to be a lot of shouting from the rooftops about it in the US. Plus, we are probably happier to be honest about thinking it's cobblers over here whereas not being religious can probably affect ones job etc in the US . Well yeah... we largely just practice our own religions, or atheism, and let others practice theirs. When I lived on a Catholic Island in the Outer Hebrides, US fundo evangelists used to come round telling us we were going to hell... I let two in once for a chat. It didn't end well. It went bad on them. What were they doing there? Are they trying to get revenge for sending those pilgrim fathers? Should've drowned the f%#kers, it's what God would have wanted.
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