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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 14, 2019 12:20:10 GMT
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 14, 2019 12:47:57 GMT
They should just send him to enjoy in Dorne and protect the south for the kingdom.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 14, 2019 13:02:22 GMT
He needs to kill someone first. I don't know who it will be but I guess it's someone fans like  |
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Post by Marendil on Apr 14, 2019 15:30:33 GMT
He needs to kill someone first. I don't know who it will be but I guess it's someone fans like Maybe a dragon?
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 14, 2019 15:43:07 GMT
He needs to kill someone first. I don't know who it will be but I guess it's someone fans like Maybe a dragon? He has been the only who came close to doing the great deed (among all humans). Perhaps his enemies have changed now. So, like Leo, do you also believe he is still a sell-sword at heart and won't do things merely out of his affection for Lannisters? He could still side with them if he sees odds of surviving high enough to justify his risk. But could he do out of more human feelings?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 14, 2019 15:50:17 GMT
He needs to kill someone first. I don't know who it will be but I guess it's someone fans like Maybe a dragon? Nah, no one likes the ugly beasts 
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Post by Marendil on Apr 14, 2019 16:07:28 GMT
He has been the only who came close to doing the great deed (among all humans). Perhaps his enemies have changed now. So, like Leo, do you also believe he is still a sell-sword at heart and won't do things merely out of his affection for Lannisters? He could still side with them if he sees odds of surviving high enough to justify his risk. But could he do out of more human feelings? I think Bronn was bought off by Cersei before Tyrion's trial. I also think he went straight to Cersei when Tyrion contacted him in season seven; which is how she knew and why he was so confident he was in the clear when walking to the Dragonpit with Tyrion and Varys.
I think once he realizes Cersei won't be handing out any castles he'll jump ship.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 14, 2019 16:11:00 GMT
Nah, no one likes the ugly beasts Viserion got more flowers on his grave than any else killed season seven, save Olenna.
Lions look tiny, wretched and frightened next to dragons!
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 14, 2019 16:12:42 GMT
He has been the only who came close to doing the great deed (among all humans). Perhaps his enemies have changed now. So, like Leo, do you also believe he is still a sell-sword at heart and won't do things merely out of his affection for Lannisters? He could still side with them if he sees odds of surviving high enough to justify his risk. But could he do out of more human feelings? I think Bronn was bought off by Cersei before Tyrion's trial. I also think he went straight to Cersei when Tyrion contacted him in season seven; which is how she knew and why he was so confident he was in the clear when walking to the Dragonpit with Tyrion and Varys.
I think once he realizes Cersei won't be handing out any castles he'll jump ship.
I agree there's a good possibility of that. But the question then arises why do we love such a shady person? Perhaps if the same person had a different face then we do be hating him a lot.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 14, 2019 16:22:54 GMT
I think Bronn was bought off by Cersei before Tyrion's trial. I also think he went straight to Cersei when Tyrion contacted him in season seven; which is how she knew and why he was so confident he was in the clear when walking to the Dragonpit with Tyrion and Varys.
I think once he realizes Cersei won't be handing out any castles he'll jump ship.
I agree there's a good possibility of that. But the question then arises why do we love such a shady person? Perhaps if the same person had a different face then we do be hating him a lot. Perhaps because that self-same opportunism was what caused him to deliver Tyrion from a miscarriage of justice in the Vale.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 14, 2019 16:26:44 GMT
I think Bronn was bought off by Cersei before Tyrion's trial. I also think he went straight to Cersei when Tyrion contacted him in season seven; which is how she knew and why he was so confident he was in the clear when walking to the Dragonpit with Tyrion and Varys.
I think once he realizes Cersei won't be handing out any castles he'll jump ship.
I agree there's a good possibility of that. But the question then arises why do we love such a shady person? Perhaps if the same person had a different face then we do be hating him a lot. People like Bronn because he's witty and was Tyrion's friend. That's all. People hate Cersei because she's neither witty nor really anyone's friend but her brother. Most people are dumb shit.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 14, 2019 16:30:57 GMT
I agree there's a good possibility of that. But the question then arises why do we love such a shady person? Perhaps if the same person had a different face then we do be hating him a lot. People hate Cersei because she's neither witty nor really anyone's friend but her brother. Most people are dumb shit. Cersei is plenty witty, she's one of the best with the foul language on the show.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 14, 2019 16:34:39 GMT
People hate Cersei because she's neither witty nor really anyone's friend but her brother. Most people are dumb shit. Cersei is plenty witty, she's one of the best with the foul language on the show. There is no wit in the modern sense in the character, none. Wit also used to mean intelligence but this is not the meaning I intended. I don't remember foul language in Cersei's mouth. I think she said "shit" once and that's about it. She said "fuck" once too. I don't see why you relate "witty" with foul language, by the way. There is no dependency.
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 14, 2019 16:59:59 GMT
I agree there's a good possibility of that. But the question then arises why do we love such a shady person? Perhaps if the same person had a different face then we do be hating him a lot. People like Bronn because he's witty and was Tyrion's friend. That's all. People hate Cersei because she's neither witty nor really anyone's friend but her brother. Most people are dumb shit. Non sequitur |
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Post by Marendil on Apr 14, 2019 17:27:12 GMT
Cersei is plenty witty, she's one of the best with the foul language on the show. There is no wit in the modern sense in the character, none. Wit also used to mean intelligence but this is not the meaning I intended. I don't remember foul language in Cersei's mouth. I think she said "shit" once and that's about it. She said "fuck" once too. I don't see why you relate "witty" with foul language, by the way. There is no dependency. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
She is more artful in her cursing, and delivers it so harmoniously you might have missed it and doesn't rely much on those two words.
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 14, 2019 17:33:55 GMT
There is no wit in the modern sense in the character, none. Wit also used to mean intelligence but this is not the meaning I intended. I don't remember foul language in Cersei's mouth. I think she said "shit" once and that's about it. She said "fuck" once too. I don't see why you relate "witty" with foul language, by the way. There is no dependency. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
She is more artful in her cursing, and delivers it so harmoniously you might have missed it and doesn't rely much on those two words.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 14, 2019 17:34:05 GMT
There is no wit in the modern sense in the character, none. Wit also used to mean intelligence but this is not the meaning I intended. I don't remember foul language in Cersei's mouth. I think she said "shit" once and that's about it. She said "fuck" once too. I don't see why you relate "witty" with foul language, by the way. There is no dependency. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
She is more artful in her cursing, and delivers it so harmoniously you might have missed it and doesn't rely much on those two words.
Possible but unlikely. You'll have examples, I'm sure.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 14, 2019 17:53:46 GMT
Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
She is more artful in her cursing, and delivers it so harmoniously you might have missed it and doesn't rely much on those two words.
Possible but unlikely. You'll have examples, I'm sure. One of her favorites is the only word I know of that gets auto-censored on this board, she called Olenna that in the season seven opening, amongst others. She often uses 'whore' in the pejorative not descriptive sense, referring to both Sansa and Marjory that way.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 14, 2019 17:54:53 GMT
Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
She is more artful in her cursing, and delivers it so harmoniously you might have missed it and doesn't rely much on those two words.
You'll have to forgive him. All he does is read the recaps. 'Twas not always thus.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 14, 2019 17:59:05 GMT
Possible but unlikely. You'll have examples, I'm sure. One of her favorites is the only word I know of that gets auto-censored on this board, she called Olenna that in the season seven opening, amongst others. She often uses 'whore' in the pejorative not descriptive sense, referring to both Sansa and Marjory that way. I didn't see S7 but "whore" is not the foulest of language and is used as a perfectly common word by everyone in the show so it is not even vulgar, also not in the pejorative sense. None of this makes for any witty dialogue, anyway. Bronn and Tyrion crack jokes every second line but Cersei is about as funny as Tywin.
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