What if Hela had the Infinity Gauntlet?

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What if Hela had the Infinity Gauntlet? Apr 17, 2019 21:40:02 GMT via mobile

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Post by Skaathar on Apr 17, 2019 21:40:02 GMT

Let's pretend Thor never defeated Hela in Ragnarok. She killed Loki, Valkyrie, the warriors 3, and Heimdall managed to send Hulk back to earth before he himself was killed. The GotG find Thor floating unconscious in space. Hela already has the tesseract, gets the IG, and acquires the power stone from Xandar.

Scenario 1: How would the GotG do against Hela in Knowhere when they try to get the reality stone from her?

Scenario 2: The same team that fought Thanos on Titan (IM, Strange, etc.) fight a 4-stone Hela in Asgard. How do they do?

Scenario 4: Instead of outriders attacking Wakanda, it's endless hordes of undead Asgardians instead. How does Cap's team fair?

Scenario 5: A 5-stone Hela appears on Wakanda. Can the Avengers stop her from acquiring Vision's stone?

Overall question: would she be easier/harder to deal with compared to Thanos?

Bonus question: what would she do with the IG once she has it complete? Would she be preferable to Thanos?

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What if Hela had the Infinity Gauntlet? Apr 18, 2019 2:36:30 GMT Archelaus likes this

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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 2:36:30 GMT

She'd be more sadistic. More merciless. Thanos has a pathos all his own. He explains himself on the battlefield, sympathizes with his victims, consoles them as he kills them sometimes. There's a clearly defined method to his madness. If we're being honest, I think Hela would revel in doing the job herself and just use the IG as a booster rocket in battle.

It's all glory in battle and death, but to what end? The accumulation of riches? Bragging rights over the other kingdoms? Thanos is a character with fleshed out motivations I understand. Hela is more of a symbol, and idea. Just a Tasmanian Devil tornado of indiscriminate destruction.

With that in mind,

1. She'd kill the Guardians in Nowhere. Probably to make examples of them.

2. There would be less back and forth in a fight on Asgard. Although it's possible that Iron Man's wits might be more with him on Asgard and he might develop a better plan. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but Strange should open a portal, negotiate her half way through and close the portal. If it doesn't cut her in half, well that's unfortunate.

4. Cap's team I think would fare fairly well against an army of undead Asgardians in Wakanda.

5. If 5-stone herself shows up in Wakanda, expect pain. BUT it's my belief that instead of trying to remove the stone from Vision, they should work on repairing his incision. With Vision, I think they could take her. I think Stormbreaker could kill her in one shot.

She'd be less merciless, doesn't get paid by the speech; there's some killshots I think she would take quicker. Starting with Drax and Mantis at Nowhere. Part of me hopes the moment she acquires the soul stone, she kills the Red Skull too. For showing up in the movie.

Overall: She's more of a plague and a cancer than Thanos. She's not interested in watching the sun set on a grateful universe. She was already near Odin-level dangerous before Thor was born so who knows at what age she'll begin to slow down. Who knows if she'll ever get bored or tired.

Bonus: Equally screwed.

So maybe they could rework the plan against Thanos on Hela, get the IG off her arm, toss it to Thor, Thor snaps his fingers and she disintegrates. Thor deposits the IG in the center of the nearest star and that's a wrap. The only casualty is Darcy, who was struck by a car back on earth for unrelated reasons.

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What if Hela had the Infinity Gauntlet? Apr 18, 2019 4:52:02 GMT via mobile Rey Kahuka likes this

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Apr 18, 2019 2:36:30 GMT @cat said:

She'd be more sadistic. More merciless. Thanos has a pathos all his own. He explains himself on the battlefield, sympathizes with his victims, consoles them as he kills them sometimes. There's a clearly defined method to his madness. If we're being honest, I think Hela would revel in doing the job herself and just use the IG as a booster rocket in battle.

It's all glory in battle and death, but to what end? The accumulation of riches? Bragging rights over the other kingdoms? Thanos is a character with fleshed out motivations I understand. Hela is more of a symbol, and idea. Just a Tasmanian Devil tornado of indiscriminate destruction.

With that in mind,

1. She'd kill the Guardians in Nowhere. Probably to make examples of them.

2. There would be less back and forth in a fight on Asgard. Although it's possible that Iron Man's wits might be more with him on Asgard and he might develop a better plan. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but Strange should open a portal, negotiate her half way through and close the portal. If it doesn't cut her in half, well that's unfortunate.

4. Cap's team I think would fare fairly well against an army of undead Asgardians in Wakanda.

5. If 5-stone herself shows up in Wakanda, expect pain. BUT it's my belief that instead of trying to remove the stone from Vision, they should work on repairing his incision. With Vision, I think they could take her. I think Stormbreaker could kill her in one shot.

She'd be less merciless, doesn't get paid by the speech; there's some killshots I think she would take quicker. Starting with Drax and Mantis at Nowhere. Part of me hopes the moment she acquires the soul stone, she kills the Red Skull too. For showing up in the movie.

Overall: She's more of a plague and a cancer than Thanos. She's not interested in watching the sun set on a grateful universe. She was already near Odin-level dangerous before Thor was born so who knows at what age she'll begin to slow down. Who knows if she'll ever get bored or tired.

Bonus: Equally screwed.

So maybe they could rework the plan against Thanos on Hela, get the IG off her arm, toss it to Thor, Thor snaps his fingers and she disintegrates. Thor deposits the IG in the center of the nearest star and that's a wrap. The only casualty is Darcy, who was struck by a car back on earth for unrelated reasons.

Hela wanted to rule Asgard, not necessarily kill the Asgardians. It's when they resisted that she mercilessly ended them. I think that's Hela's main defining factor: she wants to rule, not necessarily kill, but she'll ruthlessly kill if you give her even the slightest reason.

In comparison, Thanos is a lot more... compassionate. You can have a decent discussion with him and he doesn't kill unnecessarily. He definitely doesn't seem like he enjoys the killing. But at the same time his primary goal is to kill half the universe, not to rule, not for conquest.

So the choice is basically between someone who's purpose isn't to kill but does enjoy killing, and someone who doesn't enjoy killing but who's purpose is to kill.

Last Edit: Apr 18, 2019 5:22:41 GMT by Skaathar

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What if Hela had the Infinity Gauntlet? Apr 18, 2019 12:07:18 GMT

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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 18, 2019 12:07:18 GMT

Hela would be more dangerous because she'd use the Gauntlet as a weapon. Not that Thanos didn't, but he had an (sorry guys) endgame. Hela would revel in the chaos created by unbridled power and most likely would destroy the universe in a rage if it ever came down to it. Half of all life is extreme, but the level of carnage wrought by Hela would be off the charts.

The only upside is that Hela is a sadist, so she'd want to wage war personally on a smaller scale; planet to planet so she could see them all suffer and beg for mercy. That would give opposing forces more time to mount an effective strategy to defeat her, whereas Thanos simply assembled the stones and immediately wiped out half of life in the universe.

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What if Hela had the Infinity Gauntlet? Apr 18, 2019 18:18:51 GMT Rey Kahuka likes this

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Apr 18, 2019 12:07:18 GMT Rey Kahuka said:

Hela would be more dangerous because she'd use the Gauntlet as a weapon. Not that Thanos didn't, but he had an (sorry guys) endgame. Hela would revel in the chaos created by unbridled power and most likely would destroy the universe in a rage if it ever came down to it. Half of all life is extreme, but the level of carnage wrought by Hela would be off the charts.

The only upside is that Hela is a sadist, so she'd want to wage war personally on a smaller scale; planet to planet so she could see them all suffer and beg for mercy. That would give opposing forces more time to mount an effective strategy to defeat her, whereas Thanos simply assembled the stones and immediately wiped out half of life in the universe.

That's what I'm saying. I've my doubts too about Hela ruling. She says she wants to rule, but does she though? Her version of ruling looks like killing anybody who steps out of line. I.e. not a provider.