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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 1, 2019 16:45:21 GMT
CC Sabathia just became only the third lefty in MLB history to join the 3,000 strikeout club, behind only Randy Johnson and Steve Carlton. Some other key numbers:
247-153
3.69 era
1 Cy Young, 4 other top 5 finishes
1 ALCS MVP
1 ring
6 time All Star
I don’t see a first ballot election but I think he’ll get in. If the barely deserving Mussina got in then he should at some point as well.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on May 1, 2019 18:16:54 GMT
CC in before 2030.
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Post by tristramshandy on May 1, 2019 18:35:12 GMT
You'd think he'd be able to get to 250 wins.
Right now there are only 22 pitchers who have one hundred wins. Verlander is the only other pitcher with over 200. Forget having a pitcher with 300 wins ever again, Sabathia is going to be one of the lasts to ever get 250 again. Does Zach Grienke have 58 more wins in him? Jon Lester 72? Max Scherzer 90? Madison Bumgartner is the only pitcher younger than 30 who has over 100 wins, and he has 111.
I think he can get in just because of that.
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Post by hi224 on May 1, 2019 18:51:06 GMT
sure.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 1, 2019 20:24:16 GMT
Yes.
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Post by fjenkins on May 1, 2019 21:51:16 GMT
CC Sabathia just became only the third lefty in MLB history to join the 3,000 strikeout club, behind only Randy Johnson and Steve Carlton. Some other key numbers: 247-153 3.69 era 1 Cy Young, 4 other top 5 finishes 1 ALCS MVP 1 ring 6 time All Star I don’t see a first ballot election but I think he’ll get in. If the barely deserving Mussina got in then he should at some point as well. I literally came in here to write this post, yiou beat me to it. He IS the lefty Mussina. He'll get in on his 4th or 5th ballot. I honestly think if Mussina and Morris didn't get in, Sabathia had zero chance but those two opened the door for a lot of pitchers.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 1, 2019 21:55:00 GMT
CC Sabathia just became only the third lefty in MLB history to join the 3,000 strikeout club, behind only Randy Johnson and Steve Carlton. Some other key numbers: 247-153 3.69 era 1 Cy Young, 4 other top 5 finishes 1 ALCS MVP 1 ring 6 time All Star I don’t see a first ballot election but I think he’ll get in. If the barely deserving Mussina got in then he should at some point as well. I literally came in here to write this post, yiou beat me to it. He IS the lefty Mussina. He'll get in on his 4th or 5th ballot. I honestly think if Mussina and Morris didn't get in, Sabathia had zero chance but those two opened the door for a lot of pitchers. Without looking up his stats I think that other than Ks Mussina has better overall numbers, but CC has some additional hardware and a brief period of greater dominance. I would have less of a problem with CC getting elected than I did with Mussina. |
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Post by fjenkins on May 1, 2019 22:19:13 GMT
I literally came in here to write this post, yiou beat me to it. He IS the lefty Mussina. He'll get in on his 4th or 5th ballot. I honestly think if Mussina and Morris didn't get in, Sabathia had zero chance but those two opened the door for a lot of pitchers. Without looking up his stats I think that other than Ks Mussina has better overall numbers, but CC has some additional hardware and a brief period of greater dominance. I would have less of a problem with CC getting elected than I did with Mussina. Actually look it up, Mussina has a few more wins but their actual stats are very similar. I'd say Mussina is better overall but they're pretty close, for HOF voting purposes, he gets in now. I didn't think he would have been before Morris/Mussina got in.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 22:44:07 GMT
it's a real shame when this fat clown gets in but 'The Rocket' is being blackballed........
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Post by tristramshandy on May 1, 2019 23:08:21 GMT
Without looking up his stats I think that other than Ks Mussina has better overall numbers, but CC has some additional hardware and a brief period of greater dominance. I would have less of a problem with CC getting elected than I did with Mussina. Actually look it up, Mussina has a few more wins but their actual stats are very similar. I'd say Mussina is better overall but they're pretty close, for HOF voting purposes, he gets in now. I didn't think he would have been before Morris/Mussina got in. Mussina's ERA is 3.68 and Sabathia's is 3.69!  However, Mussina's WAR is 82.8 and Sabathia's is 63.2.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on May 1, 2019 23:15:05 GMT
it's a real shame when this fat clown gets in but 'The Rocket' is being blackballed........ No it isn’t. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 23:22:58 GMT
What's next - Panda gets in over Bonds?
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Post by Winston Wolf on May 2, 2019 0:51:24 GMT
You mean like, cheeseburger Hall of Fame, or....
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 2, 2019 4:27:55 GMT
Yeah, after 3-4 tries though.
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Post by fjenkins on May 2, 2019 15:46:00 GMT
What's next - Panda gets in over Bonds? Both have zero shot of ever getting in. But I'd put Panda in before Bonds. Bonds took steroids. Panda took Fruity Pebbles.
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Post by fjenkins on May 2, 2019 15:46:48 GMT
it's a real shame when this fat clown gets in but 'The Rocket' is being blackballed........ Not a shame at all. Clemens cheated. He dug his own grave. If he would have just continued on without using steroids he would have been a top five pitcher of all time. So he doesn't get in.
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