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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 2, 2019 16:49:49 GMT
Fat Sam is a dumb feeling fuck. This is the man who wanted to take Gilly away from Craster's keep in S2 so her baby would be safe with a party of men who never knew how to deliver a child and were going head on into danger. But Fat Sam is a disadvantaged, so anything that makes him feel better, anything that would make the world look like it values anything equally, no matter how uselessly fat or simply useless, must be worth giving, right? So Fat Sam uselessly joins the fight, in spite of never having learned to be in one, and of course he has to be saved a few times. And if one of his friends has to waste his time saving him rather than being useful elsewhere, it's still worth it, right? And if he dies doing so, and fans still rejoice that Dumb Fat Useless Sam survived, well… then I guess it's still a beautiful statement about how we still love reach other no matter how fat, how useless or how dumb we all are. No, it isn't? Come on guys, this show stinks.  |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 3, 2019 5:55:44 GMT
Just when I was starting to like this useless waste of breathe after the actor's moving performance when finding out about the Tully deaths and then telling Jon to step up, Sam goes and ruins it just two episodes later.
Although he should be training the other characters on the art of having six enemies on top of you while you do nothing but cry and beg for help and still managing to survive. Oberyn could have lived!
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Post by Morgana on May 3, 2019 8:36:02 GMT
Fat Sam is a dumb feeling fuck. This is the man who wanted to take Gilly away from Craster's keep in S2 so her baby would be safe with a party of men who never knew how to deliver a child and were going head on into danger. But Fat Sam is a disadvantaged, so anything that makes him feel better, anything that would make the world look like it values anything equally, no matter how uselessly fat or simply useless, must be worth giving, right? So Fat Sam uselessly joins the fight, in spite of never having learned to be in one, and of course he has to be saved a few times. And if one of his friends has to waste his time saving him rather than being useful elsewhere, it's still worth it, right? And if he dies doing so, and fans still rejoice that Dumb Fat Useless Sam survived, well… then I guess it's still a beautiful statement about how we still love reach other no matter how fat, how useless or how dumb we all are. No, it isn't? Come on guys, this show stinks. I was hoping Sam would get killed, to be honest. Now I'm thinking he might end up being the 'hand' of whoever comes out the winner.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 3, 2019 12:41:39 GMT
I was hoping Sam would get killed, to be honest. Now I'm thinking he might end up being the 'hand' of whoever comes out the winner. This is really the main sickness of the late seasons. Characters no longer suffer consequences of their mistakes or risk taking. A man with near to no fighting experience should not survive a long battle. This is not modern warfare where pure luck decides who gets blown up by shells. Sam should have been in the crypts with Varys and Tyrion or at most on the battlements with some watching or signalling duties. But then, he said in S1 he was afraid of heights and couldn't see very well, so… I don't know. Maybe he could have sat on the Night King, it would have been more realistic. I don't see him with any political power. Sam may not become a ruler. So he probably will…
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 3, 2019 18:46:40 GMT
Fat Sam is a dumb feeling fuck. This is the man who wanted to take Gilly away from Craster's keep in S2 so her baby would be safe with a party of men who never knew how to deliver a child and were going head on into danger. But Fat Sam is a disadvantaged, so anything that makes him feel better, anything that would make the world look like it values anything equally, no matter how uselessly fat or simply useless, must be worth giving, right? So Fat Sam uselessly joins the fight, in spite of never having learned to be in one, and of course he has to be saved a few times. And if one of his friends has to waste his time saving him rather than being useful elsewhere, it's still worth it, right? And if he dies doing so, and fans still rejoice that Dumb Fat Useless Sam survived, well… then I guess it's still a beautiful statement about how we still love reach other no matter how fat, how useless or how dumb we all are. No, it isn't? Come on guys, this show stinks. this is just as bad when jorah got killed watch the scene how dany tries to pick him up turns him right into the sword of the wights, i tell you , but i have to say about sam at least he showed some true emotion finding out his family got burned and didnt kiss the feet of dragon queen for killing his father and brother like most delusional fans expected him to at least i give him that
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 4, 2019 0:17:44 GMT
this is just as bad when jorah got killed watch the scene how dany tries to pick him up turns him right into the sword of the wights, i tell you , but i have to say about sam at least he showed some true emotion finding out his family got burned and didnt kiss the feet of dragon queen for killing his father and brother like most delusional fans expected him to at least i give him that As I understand, Daenerys came into danger after using her dragon, which is something she can do, so that was a justified situation. She was a competent soldier taking necessary risks. Sam was an incompetent one needlessly putting himself in situations risking others for the sake of feeling equal to them. This is at the core of the egalitarian stench. It's all about making the world behave as if everyone is just as good for anything. Sam should have been sent to the crypts.
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Post by Marendil on May 4, 2019 3:33:58 GMT
Fat Sam is a dumb feeling fuck. This is the man who wanted to take Gilly away from Craster's keep in S2 so her baby would be safe with a party of men who never knew how to deliver a child and were going head on into danger. But Fat Sam is a disadvantaged, so anything that makes him feel better, anything that would make the world look like it values anything equally, no matter how uselessly fat or simply useless, must be worth giving, right? So Fat Sam uselessly joins the fight, in spite of never having learned to be in one, and of course he has to be saved a few times. And if one of his friends has to waste his time saving him rather than being useful elsewhere, it's still worth it, right? And if he dies doing so, and fans still rejoice that Dumb Fat Useless Sam survived, well… then I guess it's still a beautiful statement about how we still love reach other no matter how fat, how useless or how dumb we all are. No, it isn't? Come on guys, this show stinks. , but i have to say about sam at least he showed some true emotion finding out his family got burned and didnt kiss the feet of dragon queen for killing his father and brother like most delusional fans expected him to at least i give him that Personally I like that they did this, it helps to delineate the difference between elite troops and inferior soldiers like Sam who do what most rational beings do when death is near at hand, run or try to hide. Instinct takes over and people freeze or freak out and/or try to flee. Training and experience can mitigate that tendency but even the best units 'break' when taking overwhelming fire and retreat en masse when the going gets desperate. That's what the training at the hands of unmitigated assholes like Alliser Thorne is for, to expose them to stress and various amounts of unpleasantness to toughen them up a little for the moment their best buddy is dead and they still have to carry on. Or in some centuries to see to it they're more afraid of their own officers than the enemy and don't dare try to run and hide.
Sam did take out a few wights in the battle but he might well remember to the end of his days how Dolorous Edd Tollett died and how eventually he could do little more than try to hide under piles of bodies. That's actually not unexpected and it's doubtful he was the only one, even Arya--the big heroine--had moments after she lost her badass knife-stick where she was more interested in running and hiding rather than engaging wights with her assassin's weapon and she had much more training than Sam and probably more combat experience.
In Korea the US Army and allies which had just a half-dozen years or so previous swept across Western Europe and helped defeat one of the most dangerous armies in history was attacked by China somewhat unexpectedly, which had a huge army of mostly ill-equipped troops, some of which were unarmed and expected to pick up the weapons of friendly and enemy casualties. Some smart-ass wrote a diddy based on a popular song of the day about what happened sometimes called ' The Bug-Out Boogie,'--bugging out meaning to run for it. Here's the first stanza:
Hear the patter of running feet
It's the old First Cav in full retreat
They're moving on; they'll soon be gone
They're haulin' ass, not savin' gas
They'll soon be gone.
The rest has even naughtier words in it, follow that link at your own peril.
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